Poole v Glasgow, 15/10/25, Glasgow v Poole, 17/10/25 Championship Final

[Bear_Bottom]

😉

[soupy]

3 minutes ago, Robinh88 said:

I agree best team match i saw at Berwick back in the day was 2009 home loss to King's Lynn. Racing was off the chart.

Think I was there and was a good match and I think a certain Darcy Ward was riding for Kings lynn.

[Bear_Bottom]

29 minutes ago, Odds On said:

biggest surprise was the continued pictures of the tractor going round and round scaping the blue line, it just showed how little shale was on the track, more sparks being generated than grip!

 

Plans to smuggle more dirt into Poole next year...

 

😉

 

[Youhave2minutes]

17 minutes ago, soupy said:

I would like to see good racing over losing a meeting but hey ho what ever floats your boat to win at all costs.

You can float that boat in the nearby harbour

[Odds On]

2 minutes ago, Bear_Bottom said:

Plans to smuggle more dirt into Poole next year...

 

😉

 

This could be post of the season!

[Youhave2minutes]

16 minutes ago, Bear_Bottom said:

😉

How scary is that😱

[Roger Jacobs]

1 hour ago, Arthur54 said:

Not like Poole though, on a weekly basis 

We don't know do we, because they don't publish attendances.

[Steve Shovlar]

2 hours ago, WRDukes said:

Setting aside the debate about the track can we all not agree that it's great to see that a certain Poole fan is now fully recovered from their latest bout of the 'deadly' virus?

Not fully recovered but recovered enough not to be contagious. That’s what happens. People get ill with covid, then the majority get better over a period. 

[soupy]

21 minutes ago, Youhave2minutes said:

You can float that boat in the nearby harbour

Only if it has water

[ASpeedwayfan]

1 hour ago, TheWellBehavedWorrall said:

Does that make it acceptable and tolerable?

Let’s not beat around the bush; instances like last night will be a catalyst for the death of this sport.

As I said last night, I encouraged two Bournemouth based colleagues to attend or tune in last night. Non-speedway fans. One tuned in with his son and won’t be doing so again. To the neutral (our target market), it was a dire spectacle.

Poole can enjoy their trophy cabinet in 5-10 years when their only meetings are exhibition ones, twice per-season, because UK speedway is dead.

I repeat: that wasn’t home track advantage, that was racing prevention.

I disagree, one of the best ran clubs in the UK and certainly the most successful  and well supported one will NOT be the reason speedway dies in this country. 
 

[SharpenRake]

Just popped on to see what my fellow Glasgow fans are saying about last night. Apart from numerous posts from one person there seems to few posts from other tigers fans. Lots of comments from other fans from other clubs. Can only assume BSN did really well from last night's stream. My thoughts, the Tigers riders tried their best, they haven't gated well all season, apart from Dan, so unlikely things would change last night. Can they win on Friday, yes. Can they win on aggregate, unlikely, but I'll be there to watch good racing in a good stadium with friendly, passionate fans. 

Also good to see the ref making the right call to exclude Tobias.

[PersonalResponsibility]

3 hours ago, Bagpuss said:

There's a middle ground though. Give the riders who want to entertain and race something to work with without making it 'easy' for them. Poole are a very good team and dont need to completely doctor a track to win, and I wouldn't put it past them winning the second leg too on a track which will most likely provide plenty of lines and passing. 

Agreed, but I'd hardly call preparing a track on the slicker side to benefit your own riders as extreme as 'doctoring'. The track was perfectly raceable, just didn't produce a lot of entertainment.

As far as I can see, that was Glasgow's best score at Poole this year. Maybe they should've asked for it even slicker.

[Fromafar]

23 minutes ago, PersonalResponsibility said:

Agreed, but I'd hardly call preparing a track on the slicker side to benefit your own riders as extreme as 'doctoring'. The track was perfectly raceable, just didn't produce a lot of entertainment.

As far as I can see, that was Glasgow's best score at Poole this year. Maybe they should've asked for it even slicker.

Would agree slick tracks suit modern machinery,the track was perfectly race able,no alarming crashes with rider picking up unexpected grip one crash all night.We can all agree or disagree on entertainment value.Should be cracking 2nd Leg.Still difficult to predict. IMO

[gmarsbar2]

20 minutes ago, PersonalResponsibility said:

Agreed, but I'd hardly call preparing a track on the slicker side to benefit your own riders as extreme as 'doctoring'. The track was perfectly raceable, just didn't produce a lot of entertainment.

As far as I can see, that was Glasgow's best score at Poole this year. Maybe they should've asked for it even slicker.

Rideable but not raceable. Virtually no entertainment would be a better description. 

It's not like Poole need an ultra slick track to win. 7 away wins this year, they even won at Glasgow in June.

[SteveLyric2]

25 minutes ago, PersonalResponsibility said:

Agreed, but I'd hardly call preparing a track on the slicker side to benefit your own riders as extreme as 'doctoring'. The track was perfectly raceable, just didn't produce a lot of entertainment.

As far as I can see, that was Glasgow's best score at Poole this year. Maybe they should've asked for it even slicker.

'Entertainment' is not just about 'passing' is it? There was plenty of close races which had many in the grandstand - me included - on their feet at times!  The presentation itself was quite slick I thought (except for the 1st time DJ getting his music out of sync!), all 15 heats over in 1.5 hours with only one stoppage; flashing coloured lights at the finish line, coloured smoke (blue and red) for the team introductions; crowd chants, Mexican waves, rider interviews, dedication 'shout-outs' and a Pirates win! plus a post-meeting chance for photos with the KO Cup trophy!

Whats not to like? and I bet those crowds will be back to be entertained again next week for the BSN Final.😇

[Buttons]

On 10/11/2025 at 9:18 AM, lbw said:

Looking forward to attending both meetings in wot will be an epic finale for the Championship League Title 🏆

There's no doubt that Glasgow 🐯 boast a strong top 5 but they av a weak tail which will be exploited by we PIRATES ☠️. After seeing the PIRATES strength and determination at the business end of the season every rider 1-7 are very capable of beating anyone.

C'mon the Boyzzz ☠️ 💪 

 

Looks like I am in the minority but I still think Glasgow will win overall, their middle order Flint & Thompson are strong at home, and with Nagel at number 2, I cant see Thompson beating him, and their two reserves will go better at home. Pirates can prove me wrong, may the best team win.

[SteelShoe]

5 hours ago, mikebv said:

Speedway has always been about "winning at home" to maintain crowd levels.  

So much so, you can even bring in riders on higher averages at home to replace any of your missing riders....

And, teams will regularly be happy to ride away on nights their best riders are missing as it doesn't impact their home income...

You get very little financial reward, nor any major national publicity, for winning any UK Speedway competition, therefore, having a winning team at home, and hopefully turning a profit by doing so, is the No1 aim for the promoters. 

And being able to "filli your programme in" after turn two, lap one, is something that has happened the majority of time in the thousands and  thousands of races I have watched in the past five decades... 

Poole could still win at home without the track prep witnessed last night.  they are very shrewd in repeatedly building a competetive team. Surprised to hear you say you could fill your program in after turn 2 the majority of times at Belle Vue.

[TheWellBehavedWorrall]

1 hour ago, ASpeedwayfan said:

I disagree, one of the best ran clubs in the UK and certainly the most successful  and well supported one will NOT be the reason speedway dies in this country. 
 

Your naivety means you can’t see the forest for the trees.

If you don’t have the mental capacity to process what last night would represent for the casual newcomer - our sport’s target market - then attempting to engage in discussion with you is a futile exercise.

The on-going collapse of British speedway continues.

[foreverblue]

4 hours ago, Robinh88 said:

 

100 percent threw his toys out of the pram. He was a pleasure to watch.

What occasion was this then? Dont remember him ever doing that. 

Totally agree he was a pleasure to watch.

[mikebv]

13 minutes ago, TheWellBehavedWorrall said:

Your naivety means you can’t see the forest for the trees.

If you don’t have the mental capacity to process what last night would represent for the casual newcomer - our sport’s target market - then attempting to engage in discussion with you is a futile exercise.

The on-going collapse of British speedway continues.

How many casual newcomers were watching last night? 

On a stream only Speedway fans would know existed..?

And any newbies in the stadium would have been impressed I am sure by the crowd size and feel good factor of winning, (if a Poole fan)..

Years ago, even at Hyde Rd, many races were often spread out and "done" by the end of lap one, yet the large crowds, with plenty of away fans in attendance, kept the atmosphere at a level where going back the next week was almost a given...

Similar racing now takes place in front of hundreds, not thousands, with almost no away fans, which is why the atmosphere at tracks doesn't make it a given you will return the next meeting....

Edit...

And I would suggest the many thousands of lapsed fans who follow the sport closely but don't attend their local track regularly are the target market that should be prioritised in getting to attend ..

Listening to them and fixing the reasons why they no longer attend would deliver a far greater return than hoping casual newcomers become regulars...

Edited 3 hours ago by mikebv