PhilTheAce Posted 2 hours ago Report Share Posted 2 hours ago 5 hours ago, Neila said: Rumours are 3 home 3 away meetings in the league, then the play offs. So imo very repetitive when only 4 teams will visit your home track. I know of several people at various premiership tracks, that won't be going to see all home meetings due to them visiting a minimum of 3 times I bet them same stay aways would attend every GP with the same 15 riders 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE DEAN MACHINE Posted 2 hours ago Report Share Posted 2 hours ago 14 minutes ago, PhilTheAce said: I bet them same stay aways would attend every GP with the same 15 riders Not quite the same though is it Phil, you know in your heart this premier league of 5 or even 6 is not enough and just for this year at least it should of been made to work as one big league 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neila Posted 2 hours ago Report Share Posted 2 hours ago 18 minutes ago, Bagpuss said: Out of interest if Workington raced against a team three times would you go to all of them? But worky in a league of nine teams, if they raced the teams twice, would mean 10 weeks apart, but in premiership the team comes around again in 5 weeks then again in another 5 weeks time, too often imo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neila Posted 1 hour ago Report Share Posted 1 hour ago 2 hours ago, ouch said: If fans attend for two visits per team as they have done for decades then I think promotions will take it on the chin the fact that fans will give four fixtures a miss. With this year being very much make do and mend, it’s the best they could hope for imo. But if said persons missed 4 meetings £25 each 2 people so £200 lost, multiply that by saying 50 couples that a potential loss of £10k that's on top of normal losses for each meeting. Then potential sponsors won't come on board due to lack of TV. Sorry to say this but speedway is more fooked than usual Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted 1 hour ago Report Share Posted 1 hour ago 5 minutes ago, Neila said: But worky in a league of nine teams, if they raced the teams twice, would mean 10 weeks apart, but in premiership the team comes around again in 5 weeks then again in another 5 weeks time, too often imo Wouldn't necessarily if it was in three seperate competitions, the fixtures would be much closer than that. Personally I go to see my team race, not particularly fussed who its against although of course a league of five or six is far from ideal. Two leagues of eight has been mentioned for 2027 and that would be a far better situation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FishersGate Posted 1 hour ago Report Share Posted 1 hour ago Anyone defending 3 home 3 away with the play offs is part of the problem. It's a shambles and I shall not spend a penny on it. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ouch Posted 1 hour ago Report Share Posted 1 hour ago 1 hour ago, gjcone44 said: what things can be set in motion in 2027. with the 2 league's and teams we have now, that will be different to 26. ? More notice period for teams moving up/down. Early knowledge of league structures to negate riders looking elsewhere for their income. Teams and meeting formats to suit the rider pool available. Competitions outside of the current league set up. There’s many operational knock ons associated with above and that’s just stuff off the top of my head right now. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ouch Posted 1 hour ago Report Share Posted 1 hour ago 24 minutes ago, THE DEAN MACHINE said: Not quite the same though is it Phil, you know in your heart this premier league of 5 or even 6 is not enough and just for this year at least it should of been made to work as one big league Every time our sport takes a step back, that becomes the new normal from which to work backwards from. Rarely if ever does it step back, regroup and move forward. It just moves further back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ouch Posted 1 hour ago Report Share Posted 1 hour ago 24 minutes ago, Neila said: But worky in a league of nine teams, if they raced the teams twice, would mean 10 weeks apart, but in premiership the team comes around again in 5 weeks then again in another 5 weeks time, too often imo Starting in March the play offs would be in June. Clubs don’t run weekly speedway. It’s more like fortnightly meetings meaning the same club would be back in eight weeks time following its previous visit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ouch Posted 1 hour ago Report Share Posted 1 hour ago 17 minutes ago, FishersGate said: Anyone defending 3 home 3 away with the play offs is part of the problem. It's a shambles and I shall not spend a penny on it. Never could I defend the play offs nor a division where teams meet 5 home 5 away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilTheAce Posted 1 hour ago Report Share Posted 1 hour ago (edited) 25 minutes ago, FishersGate said: Anyone defending 3 home 3 away with the play offs is part of the problem. It's a shambles and I shall not spend a penny on it. It's all about just getting through this year. All clubs taking a year away from racing was not an option because it's never just one year away is it. Things would have been easier if championship would have accepted the prem teams but they didn't want us. For the first time they actually reached the cross roads and they now need to make that decision for 2027. Go left or go right. Edited 1 hour ago by PhilTheAce 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted 1 hour ago Report Share Posted 1 hour ago 5 minutes ago, PhilTheAce said: It's all about just getting through this year. All clubs taking a year away from racing was not an option because it's never just one year away is it. Things would have been easier if championship would have accepted the prem teams but they didn't want us. For the first time they actually reached the cross roads and they now need to make that decision for 2027. Go left or go right. Think the Championsip would have accepted Premiership on their Terms.( why wouldn’t they) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted 1 hour ago Report Share Posted 1 hour ago 7 minutes ago, Fromafar said: Think the Championsip would have accepted Premiership on their Terms.( why wouldn’t they) So you're saying they wouldve been happy if it was best for them, even if it wasn't for others and potentially not the best for the sport overall.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BluPanther Posted 59 minutes ago Report Share Posted 59 minutes ago 12 minutes ago, Fromafar said: Think the Championsip would have accepted Premiership on their Terms.( why wouldn’t they) The championship clubs closed that door before any discussion even took place. CL's proposal one league with 6 man teams for 2026 should at least have been explored, but once again, self interest prevailed... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted 58 minutes ago Report Share Posted 58 minutes ago 5 minutes ago, dontforgetthefueltapsbruv said: So you're saying they wouldve been happy if it was best for them, even if it wasn't for others and potentially not the best for the sport overall.... I’m just saying why would the Championship reject Premiership Teams if it was on Championship Terms.As @Phil the Ace hinted that the Championship didn’t want them.The Sport is a shambles,obviously Sheffield and Ipswich situation made it even worse.Why did Louis throw in the towel.( what was the REAL reason).Not a word to the Ipswich supporters on the subject is pretty poor all round.Sheffield is just as bad trying to play call my bluff with the sport. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old bob at herne bay Posted 57 minutes ago Report Share Posted 57 minutes ago 10 minutes ago, PhilTheAce said: It's all about just getting through this year. All clubs taking a year away from racing was not an option because it's never just one year away is it. Things would have been easier if championship would have accepted the prem teams but they didn't want us. For the first time they actually reached the cross roads and they now need to make that decision for 2027. Go left or go right. Sadly you could say that about British Speedway for the past several years .... "always going to be fixed next season". Maybe this AGM in January 2026 really is "THE MOST IMPORTANT IN THE HISTORY OF THE SPORT" to quote the regular old chestnut trotted out in the Speedway satr to try and sell a few more copies. Dont think it is unfair to say the "one big league" has been suggested for a few seasons now - but what did the clever boys in charge do .... they started "doubling up" "doubling down" under some misguided belief that it would help riders progression. It has just developed into a money earning stunt for the mediocre riders and separated the 2 leagues further apart , making it nigh on impossible for teams to move up or down ... with so many doubling up riders. Sooperstars carried on regardless, and rabbits enjoyed the "rising star" charade. This also makes amalgamation nigh on impossible with the loss of sooperstars plus the loss of many doubling up riders who might just retire with only one teams income (albeit more meetings per season.) None of which solves the minor issue of getting MORE people through the turnstiles, something that has been continually overlooked !! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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