ouch Posted 21 hours ago Report Share Posted 21 hours ago 4 hours ago, Pitch said: Inevitable means certain to happen. So why not announce it then. The other problem with that plan is the current 5 premiership teams will have their teams sorted and that only leaves the left overs for the 6th club. But that's absolutely fine with Ipswich,Belle Vue, and Sheffield & Co isn't it. Please don’t included The Aces in this. Matej didn’t ride for any other team apart from his beloved Aces (where he was greatly loved) over the last decade or so. To see him line up for Birmingham was tough as it was with Tom the year before but the bigger picture needs to be looked at here. Max was the same and if we need to lose another of our GP hero’s for the greater good then so be it. Sign them young and inexperienced then help build them up as it benefits the whole league. That would be fine by us, wouldn’t it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iangnz Posted 14 hours ago Report Share Posted 14 hours ago Forgive me, but having moved to NZ's South Island in 1994, I'm possibly the Witches most distant supporter. I used to get Speedway Star, but don't bother now as I can find most of the news online. However, can someone give me a concise summary of why the promoters conference was cancelled (only 5 premiership teams?), when is it going to be held, and subsequently when we might know who the 2026 witches are (I know Emil isn't coming back and of the rumour linking Dan T with Leicester). I'm surprised there's been no official announcement about the current state of affairs from the Witches management Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoundTheBoards Posted 14 hours ago Report Share Posted 14 hours ago 8 minutes ago, iangnz said: Forgive me, but having moved to NZ's South Island in 1994, I'm possibly the Witches most distant supporter. I used to get Speedway Star, but don't bother now as I can find most of the news online. However, can someone give me a concise summary of why the promoters conference was cancelled (only 5 premiership teams?), when is it going to be held, and subsequently when we might know who the 2026 witches are (I know Emil isn't coming back and of the rumour linking Dan T with Leicester). I'm surprised there's been no official announcement about the current state of affairs from the Witches management The AGM these days isn't a 3-day conference to thrash out all the rules like it used to be. Nowadays the rules are thrashed out in a number of meetings, and the AGM is just a "box ticking" exercise to ratify what has been agreed. Clearly things haven't been agreed yet to a stage where they can be signed off, so last week's date was cancelled. The AGM has now been set for 6 January 2026. The Premiership is down to 5 teams, and realistically needs at least 1 more. An amalgamation into 1 league is impossible for various reasons; Several Championship clubs could not run on Monday/Thursday which would be needed to keep the top riders in Britain. Without the top riders, and with doubling-up ended, there would not be enough riders to fill 14 teams. With riders only having 1 club income and no doubling-up, they would need higher wages. Higher wage costs and lack of riders would close several of the less affluent clubs- So 1 league is a non-starter. Whilst some Premiership clubs may consider running with 5 teams, Ipswich are strongly against this, and are threatening to pull out, leaving a 4 team Premiership. A sixth team would appear to be the solution. A club moving up from Championship would solve it, but who? Rumours of a new club at Northampton is another option, a new promotion running a new team out of Oxford is another rumour. There's even rumours Peterborough could get their track back and relaunch, although that does sound far-fetched. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TB1 Posted 13 hours ago Report Share Posted 13 hours ago 25 minutes ago, RoundTheBoards said: The AGM these days isn't a 3-day conference to thrash out all the rules like it used to be. Nowadays the rules are thrashed out in a number of meetings, and the AGM is just a "box ticking" exercise to ratify what has been agreed. Clearly things haven't been agreed yet to a stage where they can be signed off, so last week's date was cancelled. The AGM has now been set for 6 January 2026. The Premiership is down to 5 teams, and realistically needs at least 1 more. An amalgamation into 1 league is impossible for various reasons; Several Championship clubs could not run on Monday/Thursday which would be needed to keep the top riders in Britain. Without the top riders, and with doubling-up ended, there would not be enough riders to fill 14 teams. With riders only having 1 club income and no doubling-up, they would need higher wages. Higher wage costs and lack of riders would close several of the less affluent clubs- So 1 league is a non-starter. Whilst some Premiership clubs may consider running with 5 teams, Ipswich are strongly against this, and are threatening to pull out, leaving a 4 team Premiership. A sixth team would appear to be the solution. A club moving up from Championship would solve it, but who? Rumours of a new club at Northampton is another option, a new promotion running a new team out of Oxford is another rumour. There's even rumours Peterborough could get their track back and relaunch, although that does sound far-fetched. Who said Ipswich are threatening to pull out? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted 3 hours ago Report Share Posted 3 hours ago 10 hours ago, TB1 said: Who said Ipswich are threatening to pull out? It was stated on one of the multitude of 2026/agm threads by I think In the Deep Stuff (apologies if I have misremembered the poster) It said (paraphrasing) " I heard that Chris Louis is dead against going with just 5 teams and if attracting a 6 th club doesn't happen Ipswich will sit out 2026" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilTheAce Posted 3 hours ago Report Share Posted 3 hours ago louis wont go champ and he wont go with 5 teams. it doesn't sound good for Ipswich running in 2026 but this is why pushing out the AGM to January is the right thing to do, imagine a sport without its champions, be more comical than it is now. just hope the rumours about Leicester and Sheffield being accepted to champ isnt true Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted 2 hours ago Report Share Posted 2 hours ago 31 minutes ago, PhilTheAce said: louis wont go champ and he wont go with 5 teams. it doesn't sound good for Ipswich running in 2026 but this is why pushing out the AGM to January is the right thing to do, imagine a sport without its champions, be more comical than it is now. just hope the rumours about Leicester and Sheffield being accepted to champ isnt true Bradford were Champions and closed... Workington too.... The top tier simply isn't fit for purpose in its current guise... (Nor has it been for well over a decade)... An Aces team, riding in one league,on a Friday with the likes of Charles Wright at No1, would, for me, deliver (at least) the same level of crowd that they get on a Monday with the 2nd and 3rd best riders in the world in attendance... And would be significantly cheaper to run, thus hopefully, significantly cheaper to attend... I actually think the crowd would increase due to "no school or work" for many the next day... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YeOldPitGate Posted 2 hours ago Report Share Posted 2 hours ago 43 minutes ago, PhilTheAce said: louis wont go champ and he wont go with 5 teams. it doesn't sound good for Ipswich running in 2026 but this is why pushing out the AGM to January is the right thing to do, imagine a sport without its champions, be more comical than it is now. just hope the rumours about Leicester and Sheffield being accepted to champ isnt true Your normally on the money with your sources Phil but hopefully this time its heresey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
therefused Posted 2 hours ago Report Share Posted 2 hours ago 21 minutes ago, mikebv said: Bradford were Champions and closed... Workington too.... The top tier simply isn't fit for purpose in its current guise... (Nor has it been for well over a decade)... An Aces team, riding in one league,on a Friday with the likes of Charles Wright at No1, would, for me, deliver (at least) the same level of crowd that they get on a Monday with the 2nd and 3rd best riders in the world in attendance... And would be significantly cheaper to run, thus hopefully, significantly cheaper to attend... I actually think the crowd would increase due to "no school or work" for many the next day... sounds like a no brainer right? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilTheAce Posted 1 hour ago Report Share Posted 1 hour ago 48 minutes ago, YeOldPitGate said: Your normally on the money with your sources Phil but hopefully this time its heresey It’s hard to gauge any truth right now. It’s very much a closed shop and nothing much is leaking out. And about time to I’d say Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilTheAce Posted 1 hour ago Report Share Posted 1 hour ago (edited) 1 hour ago, mikebv said: Bradford were Champions and closed... Workington too.... The top tier simply isn't fit for purpose in its current guise... (Nor has it been for well over a decade)... An Aces team, riding in one league,on a Friday with the likes of Charles Wright at No1, would, for me, deliver (at least) the same level of crowd that they get on a Monday with the 2nd and 3rd best riders in the world in attendance... And would be significantly cheaper to run, thus hopefully, significantly cheaper to attend... I actually think the crowd would increase due to "no school or work" for many the next day... Bang on, but regarding a price decrease. Will never happen sadly, look at the admission for champ teams last season, it’s not far off prem really. Edited 1 hour ago by PhilTheAce 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BluPanther Posted 56 minutes ago Report Share Posted 56 minutes ago 2 hours ago, PhilTheAce said: louis wont go champ and he wont go with 5 teams. You are 50% correct on that... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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