mikebv Posted 11 hours ago Report Share Posted 11 hours ago 23 minutes ago, topaz325 said: My brain hurts just reading that Ahhh, but.... You need to use such a highly scientific system like rider averages because it means that every season, every team, starts the season almost completely equal... Well. Apart obviously from those teams who get named on here, before a wheel is turned, as a shoe in for the play offs, or, alternatively, correclty named as spending the season as complete and utter cannon fodder... It works so well doesn't it?.. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawk127 Posted 11 hours ago Report Share Posted 11 hours ago Grass track fixtures in this week’s Star for those in the Premiership suffering from withdrawal symptoms. Perhaps one of the grass venues could stage speedway, it might be quicker than Northampton. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kieran22222 Posted 11 hours ago Report Share Posted 11 hours ago 15 minutes ago, mikebv said: Ahhh, but.... You need to use such a highly scientific system like rider averages because it means that every season, every team, starts the season almost completely equal... Well. Apart obviously from those teams who get named on here, before a wheel is turned, as a shoe in for the play offs, or, alternatively, correclty named as spending the season as complete and utter cannon fodder... It works so well doesn't it?.. I hate the averages system and also the idea of not having riders as assets. It kills the motivation to develop young riders as if their average gets to high, you have to lose them for nothing or lose another top rider. It also doesn't really keep teams that fair either 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted 11 hours ago Report Share Posted 11 hours ago Just now, Kieran22222 said: I hate the averages system and also the idea of not having riders as assets. It kills the motivation to develop young riders as if their average gets to high, you have to lose them for nothing or lose another top rider. It also doesn't really keep teams that fair either Stifles aspiration, and ambition,and is clearly open to manipulation.. If must be quite annoying for a rider to miss out on a team place by a few decimal points, knowing one of his team mates last year let him finish in front of him, which, ultimately put his average "too high"... Even more so if a "bonus point king" gets the place he could have had!!! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE DEAN MACHINE Posted 11 hours ago Report Share Posted 11 hours ago (edited) As we sit here twiddling our thumbs I was just reading a pole of the most boring sports in peoples opinion and of 1000 replies nobody said Speedway,now that can be took two ways either nobody finds Speedway boring or nobody finds who voted has heard of it,just for the record, curling and cricket were the most nominated Edited 11 hours ago by THE DEAN MACHINE 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Col Posted 11 hours ago Report Share Posted 11 hours ago (edited) On 2/24/2026 at 4:39 PM, Aries said: The problem there Col, is it’s 2026, not 2023. You’ve picked an anomaly of a season there which is the exception rather than the rule. Put up the season stats for the seasons prior, and after 2023 for a fairer evaluation of his skills in a heatleader position. 2022 Overall Tobiasz Musielak 9.04 Jack Holder 8.67 Away Tobiasz Musielak 8.42 Jack Holder 7.22 Edited 11 hours ago by Col Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kieran22222 Posted 10 hours ago Report Share Posted 10 hours ago 52 minutes ago, THE DEAN MACHINE said: As we sit here twiddling our thumbs I was just reading a pole of the most boring sports in peoples opinion and of 1000 replies nobody said Speedway,now that can be took two ways either nobody finds Speedway boring or nobody finds who voted has heard of it,just for the record, curling and cricket were the most nominated Definitely that no one has heard of it. I think the only people that knew about it when I was at school was the people I forced to come along with me, most of whom never went again 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted 9 hours ago Report Share Posted 9 hours ago (edited) 1 hour ago, THE DEAN MACHINE said: As we sit here twiddling our thumbs I was just reading a pole of the most boring sports in peoples opinion and of 1000 replies nobody said Speedway,now that can be took two ways either nobody finds Speedway boring or nobody finds who voted has heard of it,just for the record, curling and cricket were the most nominated Most likely unheard of and irrelevant to the 1000 asked Much better in reality to be known by all and hated by 500 but loved by 500 Edit - looks likes we can at least still blame the Poles Edited 9 hours ago by dontforgetthefueltapsbruv 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neila Posted 9 hours ago Report Share Posted 9 hours ago 1 hour ago, THE DEAN MACHINE said: As we sit here twiddling our thumbs I was just reading a pole of the most boring sports in peoples opinion and of 1000 replies nobody said Speedway,now that can be took two ways either nobody finds Speedway boring or nobody finds who voted has heard of it,just for the record, curling and cricket were the most nominated You will find in most places that still have speedway a lot of people don't know it exists, couple of recent examples, me and a mate went into a pub 1 mile away from belle Vue, near the Holiday inn express, person behind the bar your not local, us, have come down for the speedway just up the road, bar person, I thought that closed down years ago, us, yes 2 venues closed but still going at the national speedway arena, bar person did not know speedway still going. Another example was helping out on a stall at an Xmas event in Workington couple of years ago, giving stickers etc away, man with family said he did not know a new facility had been built for speedway. And the comets lot are quite good trying to promote the sport. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Jacobs Posted 9 hours ago Report Share Posted 9 hours ago 12 hours ago, Aries said: Today’s Speedway Star from Jenkins.. <SNIP> Edit: Unless the average used for Nicholls is his Premiership average of 5.55, and not his converted Championship average of 5.39? In which case would leave 4.44, with Jenkins on 4.49. Could also explain the rumoured no go for Thorssell even on 4.5 as he wouldn’t fit either.. I’m not sure that’s the case though. Pretty sure the average used would be a Championship converted average, and not an established Premiership one. The most current average is used and Scott’s Premiership average is from 2024. Jeppesen on the other hand, has a current 2025 average in both Premiership and Championship, so I’m guessing they’d use his current Premiership average? Which would mean he just about fits. If it’s his converted Championship average then he’s way over and wouldn’t fit either. 2025 Regs: 10.2.1 Established MA's "... At the end of each season the BSP LTD will produce a listing of all riders who have competed in British Speedway during that season and following approval and/or amendment at their AGM. The MA’s, excluding bonus points but including other allowances will be the riders MA for the following season. These MA’s will remain affective for team building, team positioning, facilities, until new MA’s become effective. The most recently established MA will be used. If a rider has an established MA in both the Premiership and Championship Leagues, established in the same season, that leagues MA will apply to that league. To be effective 7 days after the last qualifying meeting. Any rider returning to British Speedway on an established MA, achieved prior to 2023 will establish an updated MA after completing 6 applicable meetings. ..." The last paragraph implies that if a rider had an Established MA from 2023 or 2024, it would count. Assuming the 2026 Regs are updated by a year, then Established MAs from 2025 or 2024 would count ... thus Nicholls could be on his 2024 Prem MA ... NB: the grammar and speeling in the Regs is appalling. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Littleze Posted 8 hours ago Report Share Posted 8 hours ago 48 minutes ago, Roger Jacobs said: 2025 Regs: 10.2.1 Established MA's "... At the end of each season the BSP LTD will produce a listing of all riders who have competed in British Speedway during that season and following approval and/or amendment at their AGM. The MA’s, excluding bonus points but including other allowances will be the riders MA for the following season. These MA’s will remain affective for team building, team positioning, facilities, until new MA’s become effective. The most recently established MA will be used. If a rider has an established MA in both the Premiership and Championship Leagues, established in the same season, that leagues MA will apply to that league. To be effective 7 days after the last qualifying meeting. Any rider returning to British Speedway on an established MA, achieved prior to 2023 will establish an updated MA after completing 6 applicable meetings. ..." The last paragraph implies that if a rider had an Established MA from 2023 or 2024, it would count. Assuming the 2026 Regs are updated by a year, then Established MAs from 2025 or 2024 would count ... thus Nicholls could be on his 2024 Prem MA ... NB: the grammar and speeling in the Regs is appalling. You Cnut!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TTT Posted 8 hours ago Author Report Share Posted 8 hours ago (edited) Jeppesen if the No.6 will make a mockery of his starting GSA so should be in the main body after the first set of averages. Let's just hope that Scotty can at least fill his boots once he drops to reserve on every track against riders like Zischke, Kemp, Etheridge etc. Edited 8 hours ago by TTT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MP78 Posted 7 hours ago Report Share Posted 7 hours ago It's probably not this, but perhaps wishful thinking on my part... Wouldn't it be great if the continued delay is down to the new owners bringing in a big name at number 1 and having to jump through some hurdles (visa, etc) to make it happen before they can announce it... I'll now head of back to cuckoo land.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YeOldPitGate Posted 7 hours ago Report Share Posted 7 hours ago 20 minutes ago, MP78 said: It's probably not this, but perhaps wishful thinking on my part... Wouldn't it be great if the continued delay is down to the new owners bringing in a big name at number 1 and having to jump through some hurdles (visa, etc) to make it happen before they can announce it... I'll now head of back to cuckoo land.... Rambo Lambo maybe ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Jacobs Posted 6 hours ago Report Share Posted 6 hours ago 2 hours ago, Littleze said: You Cnut!! ??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPEEDY69 Posted 6 hours ago Report Share Posted 6 hours ago 2 hours ago, Roger Jacobs said: 2025 Regs: 10.2.1 Established MA's "... At the end of each season the BSP LTD will produce a listing of all riders who have competed in British Speedway during that season and following approval and/or amendment at their AGM. The MA’s, excluding bonus points but including other allowances will be the riders MA for the following season. These MA’s will remain affective for team building, team positioning, facilities, until new MA’s become effective. The most recently established MA will be used. If a rider has an established MA in both the Premiership and Championship Leagues, established in the same season, that leagues MA will apply to that league. To be effective 7 days after the last qualifying meeting. Any rider returning to British Speedway on an established MA, achieved prior to 2023 will establish an updated MA after completing 6 applicable meetings. ..." The last paragraph implies that if a rider had an Established MA from 2023 or 2024, it would count. Assuming the 2026 Regs are updated by a year, then Established MAs from 2025 or 2024 would count ... thus Nicholls could be on his 2024 Prem MA ... NB: the grammar and speeling in the Regs is appalling. But he's not returning to british speedway after a gap. Therefore using the above it seems his converted championship average would be used Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Jacobs Posted 6 hours ago Report Share Posted 6 hours ago 13 minutes ago, SPEEDY69 said: But he's not returning to british speedway after a gap. Therefore using the above it seems his converted championship average would be used But it says: "The most recently established MA will be used. If a rider has an established MA in both the Premiership and Championship Leagues, established in the same season, that leagues MA will apply to that league." So the key there is that the most recently established MA will be used, and if established in the same season, the relevant MA will apply. However, Nicholls has an Established MA in the Prem from 2024 which, under the current wording of the Regs, would apply in 2026. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPEEDY69 Posted 2 hours ago Report Share Posted 2 hours ago (edited) 3 hours ago, Roger Jacobs said: But it says: "The most recently established MA will be used. If a rider has an established MA in both the Premiership and Championship Leagues, established in the same season, that leagues MA will apply to that league." So the key there is that the most recently established MA will be used, and if established in the same season, the relevant MA will apply. However, Nicholls has an Established MA in the Prem from 2024 which, under the current wording of the Regs, would apply in 2026. No, I disagree. The most recently established MA is his championship one, so that's what will be used, or are you saying he didn't establish an average last season? Official figures are reported as 8.08 for 2025, it doesn't matter what league, unless he got one in both, which he didn't. Edited 2 hours ago by SPEEDY69 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Jacobs Posted 2 hours ago Report Share Posted 2 hours ago 21 minutes ago, SPEEDY69 said: No, I disagree. The most recently established MA is his championship one, so that's what will be used, or are you saying he didn't establish an average last season? Official figures are reported as 8.08 for 2025, it doesn't matter what league, unless he got one in both, which he didn't. As I said though, the wording states that the *most recent* Established MA will be used, and *if* there's an Established MA in both leagues in the same season, the relevant MA will apply. Nicholls most recent Established MA in the Prem is from 2024, he didn't have one from 2025 because he only rode as a guest. So: Plymouth use him on his 2025 Champ MA, and if he rides in the Prem it would be on his 2024 Prem MA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPEEDY69 Posted 2 hours ago Report Share Posted 2 hours ago 8 minutes ago, Roger Jacobs said: As I said though, the wording states that the *most recent* Established MA will be used, and *if* there's an Established MA in both leagues in the same season, the relevant MA will apply. Nicholls most recent Established MA in the Prem is from 2024, he didn't have one from 2025 because he only rode as a guest. So: Plymouth use him on his 2025 Champ MA, and if he rides in the Prem it would be on his 2024 Prem MA. I don't see it that way at all. It doesn't matter which league the most recent established MA is in, that's the one which is used for the next time they ride, unless they had one in both leagues in the last season. I guess we'll find out. 😁 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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