noaksey Posted 13 hours ago Report Share Posted 13 hours ago Dicko in the Star Leicester have lost serious money in the last 2 years hence the change of approach to this year's team building Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted 13 hours ago Report Share Posted 13 hours ago 5 minutes ago, noaksey said: Dicko in the Star Leicester have lost serious money in the last 2 years hence the change of approach to this year's team building Their approach should be to get back down into the CL and back to running on a Saturday night. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pitch Posted 11 hours ago Report Share Posted 11 hours ago 2 hours ago, noaksey said: Dicko in the Star Leicester have lost serious money in the last 2 years hence the change of approach to this year's team building Why on earth do they choose to run at a loss in the Premiership rather than run in the Championship with a profit ? So this could be one more club that doesn't want to run In the premiership in the near future. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phannan Posted 10 hours ago Report Share Posted 10 hours ago 6 minutes ago, Pitch said: Why on earth do they choose to run at a loss in the Premiership rather than run in the Championship with a profit ? So this could be one more club that doesn't want to run In the premiership in the near future. Things like this just confirm the desperate state that the top level speedway in this country has become. One league is only a matter of time away. Call it championship, premiership, whatever. But then how the hell can you make a profit when all you’ve got is four other competitors to compete with. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjcone44 Posted 10 hours ago Report Share Posted 10 hours ago yet there are idiots on here who think the championship cannot survive with out the premiership. Its the premiership which will go 1st. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Youhave2minutes Posted 10 hours ago Report Share Posted 10 hours ago 3 hours ago, IainB said: Their approach should be to get back down into the CL and back to running on a Saturday night. Fricke took it all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted 10 hours ago Report Share Posted 10 hours ago 3 hours ago, noaksey said: Dicko in the Star Leicester have lost serious money in the last 2 years hence the change of approach to this year's team building It difficult to comprehend that the majority of speedway run at a loss most seasons.Whoever bankrolls these Clubs eventually bail out one way or another. This insistence to keep a Premier League will eventually fail .IMO. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teromaafan Posted 10 hours ago Report Share Posted 10 hours ago 3 hours ago, IainB said: Their approach should be to get back down into the CL and back to running on a Saturday night. Exactly, why is there this obsession with the ‘top’ flight? The sport in this country has no credibility. The shrinking numbers that still follow the sport aren’t that bothered about which league their team compete in. Less than a handful of GP level riders is the only difference between the Premiership and Championship. The top tier is so attractive that it has got to the point where they literally are begging clubs to take part! This is not something you would include in your sales pitch when trying to attract new spectators/sponsors to the sport. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted 9 hours ago Report Share Posted 9 hours ago 43 minutes ago, gjcone44 said: yet there are idiots on here who think the championship cannot survive with out the premiership. Its the premiership which will go 1st. Get rid of the two tier system and the whole house of cards collapses The Championship (as it is now) is over the moment the Premiership ceases If you can't see that you are either very naive or very stupid 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjcone44 Posted 9 hours ago Report Share Posted 9 hours ago common-sense wins in the end. as it always will. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1 valve Posted 9 hours ago Report Share Posted 9 hours ago 1 hour ago, gjcone44 said: yet there are idiots on here who think the championship cannot survive with out the premiership. Its the premiership which will go 1st. If there was no Premiership- but only one “senior” league running on something like a 38 - 40 point limit then that league would consist of no more than eight (maybe nine) teams simply because of a lack of suitable riders. And to be clear, this is not a personal opinion, just an outcome of the math involved. One thing to be sure of …. The eight or nine surviving teams would not all come from this year’s Championship. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teromaafan Posted 9 hours ago Report Share Posted 9 hours ago 27 minutes ago, dontforgetthefueltapsbruv said: Get rid of the two tier system and the whole house of cards collapses The Championship (as it is now) is over the moment the Premiership ceases If you can't see that you are either very naive or very stupid The BSPL are clinging on to two tiers due to the excessive number of riders reliant on doubling up for their earnings. The riders are calling the shots. I don’t see how this sport can move on until the doubling up monster is tackled. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted 9 hours ago Report Share Posted 9 hours ago 10 minutes ago, 1 valve said: If there was no Premiership- but only one “senior” league running on something like a 38 - 40 point limit then that league would consist of no more than eight (maybe nine) teams simply because of a lack of suitable riders. And to be clear, this is not a personal opinion, just an outcome of the math involved. One thing to be sure of …. The eight or nine surviving teams would not all come from this year’s Championship. I don't know why people keep insisting there's not enough riders for one league when there clearly are and it would be competitive with some innovative outside the box thinking. Whether there would be in a year or two with the way the NDL has gone is another matter. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
castrolargh Posted 1 hour ago Report Share Posted 1 hour ago 7 hours ago, IainB said: I don't know why people keep insisting there's not enough riders for one league when there clearly are and it would be competitive with some innovative outside the box thinking. Whether there would be in a year or two with the way the NDL has gone is another matter. Of course there are enough riders. There may not be enough riders to maintain 7 man teams to a 40 point limit but there will be enough for 5 or 6 rider teams at whatever strength depending on riders available. It just needs researching properly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjcone44 Posted 31 minutes ago Report Share Posted 31 minutes ago if there is a league next year it will be less than championship standard , its the only way it ill survive , crowds this year will be down on last year, council tax water rates gas electric all going up, not many peoples wages will be. But thats my naive and stupid way of thinking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted 29 minutes ago Report Share Posted 29 minutes ago 1 hour ago, castrolargh said: Of course there are enough riders. There may not be enough riders to maintain 7 man teams to a 40 point limit but there will be enough for 5 or 6 rider teams at whatever strength depending on riders available. It just needs researching properly With 14 teams you would initially be looking at 5 man teams at around 25 or 7 around 30 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted 25 minutes ago Report Share Posted 25 minutes ago 3 minutes ago, gjcone44 said: if there is a league next year it will be less than championship standard , its the only way it ill survive , crowds this year will be down on last year, council tax water rates gas electric all going up, not many peoples wages will be. But thats my naive and stupid way of thinking. What you describe here may well be inevitable - no disagreements from me on that score But that is very different from the Championship can survive without the Premiership - in that new scenario the only thing surviving is the name.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YeOldPitGate Posted 9 minutes ago Report Share Posted 9 minutes ago 13 hours ago, IainB said: Their approach should be to get back down into the CL and back to running on a Saturday night. We know there are problems with speedway helping itself due to all the problems that have been allowed to build up over the last 2-3 decades but that is the number one issue in my book run on the best night for your customers but unfortunately the current set up is run on the best night for the employees which equals bigger losses and probably no jobs for the employees 3-5 years down the line. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YeOldPitGate Posted 6 minutes ago Report Share Posted 6 minutes ago 10 hours ago, Phannan said: Things like this just confirm the desperate state that the top level speedway in this country has become. One league is only a matter of time away. Call it championship, premiership, whatever. But then how the hell can you make a profit when all you’ve got is four other competitors to compete with. Plus roughly 30% higher costs and running on a night that doesn't suit your customers but as others have said theres no easy fix as far as racenights go as the riders hold the cards. So at the moment you either have speedway run on unattractive nights for punters and the poor old owner underwrites the losses or you switch to a night where you have a fighting chance of breaking even but probably half the riders would clear off from UK as it wouldn't fit around their plans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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