Leicester Lions 2026

[noaksey]

Dicko in the Star Leicester have lost serious money in the last 2 years hence the change of approach to this year's team building 

[IainB]

5 minutes ago, noaksey said:

Dicko in the Star Leicester have lost serious money in the last 2 years hence the change of approach to this year's team building 

Their approach should be to get back down into the CL and back to running on a Saturday night. 

[Pitch]

2 hours ago, noaksey said:

Dicko in the Star Leicester have lost serious money in the last 2 years hence the change of approach to this year's team building 

Why on earth do they choose to run at a loss in the Premiership rather than run in the Championship with a profit ?

So this could be one more club that doesn't want to run In the premiership in the near future.

[Phannan]

6 minutes ago, Pitch said:

Why on earth do they choose to run at a loss in the Premiership rather than run in the Championship with a profit ?

So this could be one more club that doesn't want to run In the premiership in the near future.

Things like this just confirm the desperate state that the top level speedway in this country has become. One league is only a matter of time away. Call it championship, premiership, whatever. But then how the hell can you make a profit when all you’ve got is four other competitors to compete with. 

[gjcone44]

yet there are idiots on here who think the championship cannot survive with out the premiership. Its the premiership which will go 1st.

[Youhave2minutes]

3 hours ago, IainB said:

Their approach should be to get back down into the CL and back to running on a Saturday night. 

Fricke took it all

[Fromafar]

3 hours ago, noaksey said:

Dicko in the Star Leicester have lost serious money in the last 2 years hence the change of approach to this year's team building 

It difficult to comprehend that the majority of speedway run at a loss most seasons.Whoever bankrolls these Clubs eventually bail out one way or another.

This insistence to keep a Premier League will eventually fail .IMO.

[Teromaafan]

3 hours ago, IainB said:

Their approach should be to get back down into the CL and back to running on a Saturday night. 

Exactly, why is there this obsession with the ‘top’ flight? The sport in this country has no credibility. The shrinking numbers that still follow the sport aren’t that bothered about which league their team compete in. Less than a handful of GP level riders is the only difference between the Premiership and Championship. The top tier is so attractive that it has got to the point where they literally are begging clubs to take part! This is not something you would include in your sales pitch when trying to attract new spectators/sponsors to the sport.

[dontforgetthefueltapsbruv]

43 minutes ago, gjcone44 said:

yet there are idiots on here who think the championship cannot survive with out the premiership. Its the premiership which will go 1st.

Get rid of the two tier system and the whole house of cards collapses

The Championship (as it is now) is over the moment the Premiership ceases

If you can't see that you are either very naive or very stupid

[gjcone44]

common-sense wins in the end. as it always will. 

[1 valve]

1 hour ago, gjcone44 said:

yet there are idiots on here who think the championship cannot survive with out the premiership. Its the premiership which will go 1st.

If there was no Premiership- but only one “senior” league running on something like a 38 - 40 point limit then that league would consist of no more than eight (maybe nine) teams simply because of a lack of suitable riders. 
And to be clear, this is not a personal opinion, just an outcome of the math involved. 
One thing to be sure of …. The eight or nine surviving teams would not all come from this year’s Championship. 

 

[Teromaafan]

27 minutes ago, dontforgetthefueltapsbruv said:

Get rid of the two tier system and the whole house of cards collapses

The Championship (as it is now) is over the moment the Premiership ceases

If you can't see that you are either very naive or very stupid

The BSPL are clinging on to two tiers due to the excessive number of riders reliant on doubling up for their earnings. The riders are calling the shots. I don’t see how this sport can move on until the doubling up monster is tackled.

[IainB]

10 minutes ago, 1 valve said:

If there was no Premiership- but only one “senior” league running on something like a 38 - 40 point limit then that league would consist of no more than eight (maybe nine) teams simply because of a lack of suitable riders. 
And to be clear, this is not a personal opinion, just an outcome of the math involved. 
One thing to be sure of …. The eight or nine surviving teams would not all come from this year’s Championship. 

 

I don't know why people keep insisting there's not enough riders for one league when there clearly are and it would be competitive with some innovative outside the box thinking. 

Whether there would be in a year or two with the way the NDL has gone is another matter. 

[castrolargh]

7 hours ago, IainB said:

I don't know why people keep insisting there's not enough riders for one league when there clearly are and it would be competitive with some innovative outside the box thinking. 

Whether there would be in a year or two with the way the NDL has gone is another matter. 

Of course there are enough riders. There may not be enough riders to maintain 7 man teams to a 40 point limit but there will be enough for 5 or 6 rider teams at whatever strength depending on riders available. It just needs researching properly 

[gjcone44]

if there is a league next year it will be less than championship standard , its the only way it ill survive , crowds this year will be down on last year, council tax water rates gas electric all going up, not many peoples wages will be. But thats my naive and stupid way of thinking.

[dontforgetthefueltapsbruv]

1 hour ago, castrolargh said:

Of course there are enough riders. There may not be enough riders to maintain 7 man teams to a 40 point limit but there will be enough for 5 or 6 rider teams at whatever strength depending on riders available. It just needs researching properly 

With 14 teams you would initially be looking at 5 man teams at around 25 or 7 around  30

[dontforgetthefueltapsbruv]

3 minutes ago, gjcone44 said:

if there is a league next year it will be less than championship standard , its the only way it ill survive , crowds this year will be down on last year, council tax water rates gas electric all going up, not many peoples wages will be. But thats my naive and stupid way of thinking.

What you describe here may well be inevitable  - no disagreements from me on that score

But that is very different from the Championship can survive without the Premiership  - in that new scenario the only thing surviving is the name....

[YeOldPitGate]

13 hours ago, IainB said:

Their approach should be to get back down into the CL and back to running on a Saturday night. 

We know there are problems with speedway helping itself due to all the problems that have been allowed to build up over the last 2-3 decades but that is the number one issue in my book run on the best night for your customers but unfortunately the current set up is run on the best night for the employees which equals bigger losses and probably no jobs for the employees 3-5 years down the line.

[YeOldPitGate]

10 hours ago, Phannan said:

Things like this just confirm the desperate state that the top level speedway in this country has become. One league is only a matter of time away. Call it championship, premiership, whatever. But then how the hell can you make a profit when all you’ve got is four other competitors to compete with. 

Plus roughly 30% higher costs and running on a night that doesn't suit your customers but as others have said theres no easy fix as far as racenights go as the riders hold the cards.

So at the moment you either have speedway run on unattractive nights for punters and the poor old owner underwrites the losses or you switch to a night where you have a fighting chance of breaking even but probably half the riders would clear off from UK as it wouldn't fit around their plans.

[mikebv]

10 hours ago, Pitch said:

Why on earth do they choose to run at a loss in the Premiership rather than run in the Championship with a profit ?

So this could be one more club that doesn't want to run In the premiership in the near future.

Because, errrr. Because errrr. Because errrr....

Oh Yes.....

WE HAVE. TO HAVE TWO PROFESSIONAL LEAGUES, THAT'S WHY, END OF!!!!"...

(Remembered it in the end)....

I presume having two professional leagues is just another "necessary evil"?...

Like "guests", and "doubling up", and bringing over dozens and dozens of journeymen after journeymen from abroad down the years, on five point averages, rather than developing UK riders and giving them team place opportunities..

Oh, and add in riding on nights to accommodate your employees wishes, rather than your customers...

So many "necessary evils"....

In fact, I am amazed any promotion could lose money given such a fantastic, fit for success, operating model...