Foxes v Stars 07/05/26

[Shockster]

Regarding the late start. I believe they ran out of car park spaces and had to divert people somewhere else. As such and I was already in the stadium, I think they were right to delay the start. Not ideal, but not right to penalise folk going to the match so that TV starts on time.  

[bigcatdiary]

1 minute ago, Shockster said:

Regarding the late start. I believe they ran out of car park spaces and had to divert people somewhere else. As such and I was already in the stadium, I think they were right to delay the start. Not ideal, but not right to penalise folk going to the match so that TV starts on time.  

Well I have been to two prem matches this season Northamptons first and Ipswich BHM and they both started at least 30 minutes after the official start time, frankly it’s a mess and unfortunately it happens more often than not.

 

[Shockster]

I'd normally agree, but only the 2nd match and some leeway for teething probs needs to be given.  Can't speak for Ipswich.

[nagy1]

Was an interesting match. KT has started the season very well. 
Rushen’s move was horrible, do that to the wrong person and he will get hurt either on or off track. 
Lidsey looked like he wanted to be anywhere but there. 
Batch and Klindt are passengers that wake up every now and again. Half decent performance from any of the aforementioned 3 and Foxes win. 

[noaksey]

Just back. Very decent set up, track needs a bit of work, bit narrow on entrance and exit of the corners but they could extend it on to the infield in time

There's an outside line on 1 and 2 if you get it right as Bomber did in one heat,nothing on 3rd and 4th though, reminded me of Foxhall

The team however is very Birmingham notwithstanding injuries to Niels and Zagar, if they can't get Lidsey, Klindt and Batchelor going it's hard to see who they might beat.

Kye Thomson showing them the way, absolutely brilliant performance but he won't score that every week

 

Edited 11 hours ago by noaksey

[TheWellBehavedWorrall]

1 hour ago, nagy1 said:

Rushen’s move was horrible, do that to the wrong person and he will get hurt either on or off track. 

I criticised it at the time, but just saw BSN’s highlight of it on social media and Staechmann is spot on; he makes a mistake, looks at Harrison and turns left coming off the fourth bend. A shocking move.

Hate this part of modern day speedway; young riders are all over the place. Killeen is the same and cost Dan Thompson a large portion of last season because he couldn’t control his bike.

The British U21 final ending with three of finalists crashing as they crossed the line sums it up for me.

Best wishes and regards to Harrison and Scott because through no fault of their own, they needed medical attention and their evening was over.

It’s such a dangerous sport as it is. Things like this are so unnecessary.

Edited 10 hours ago by TheWellBehavedWorrall

[KingsLynnStarsFan]

Disappointing to see no victory parade for the Stars, very nice of the KL riders to come out and talk to us all after the meeting!

[Bandit59]

9 hours ago, Gavan said:

Though Harrison was very diplomatic in that interview lol

VERY 

[paulnolan]

I was happy about my decision not to go as early as heat 2 when I saw the crash come up on Speedway Updates. Then I saw the BSN clip of the race on YouTube and was relieved, because I don't think I could have held my tongue at Rushen's deliberate act of idiocy.

As for the late start, I obviously wasn't there but I'm fine with that kind of thing. Nobody sets out to arrive late, and as long as it's within a reasonable amount of time - 30 minutes is fine - it's best to have everybody who wants to see the meeting in through the gates. Those people who miss the first few races might not come back again.

This Foxes team is rotten. we're now officially 25% of the way through the season and only the reserves can hold their heads up. Klindt is a disgrace and should be replaced by Kerr today, with Batchelor also shown the door in favour of someone on a similar average who might improve (or at least will provide some entertainment).

They say "if you build it, they will come," but what they don't add is "if you build it on shaky foundations, it will fall down." That said, I'll be there on the 21st...

[HGould]

1 hour ago, Bandit59 said:

VERY 

Massive credit to Luke Harrison there.

He could easily have been leaving that Track in a far far worse state.

Air / Foam Safety Fences give these young riders a sense of invincibility that the old Fences never did. Therefore they think its hit the fence get up and get back on the bike.

THAT'S GREAT in the sense NO ONE wants anyone to get hurt but someting along the lines of a "Rider Education Programme" needs to be considered. If a Referee or independent ex Rider after video Analysis considers a Rider errant or too hard / risk taker, theyshould be given penalty points on their Racing License and  be made to atend a course at their expense and suspended if they reach a certain number of points

It's no different to driving a Car on the Road! and happens in other forms of motor sports.

Rushen is I believe a good lad, a potentially great talent, but someone seriously needs to sit him down and examine that with him in micro detail and show him the error of his ways. Someone from the GB set up maybe ?

[SJA]

12 hours ago, BlueIn2Red said:

You think they should start while people are still queuing to get in?

Yes. How many other sports delay the start time as regularly as Speedway.

I have already been to five meetings this season that has started late which is unacceptable for a professional sport. 

[Whitelinehugger]

2 minutes ago, SJA said:

Yes. How many other sports delay the start time as regularly as Speedway.

I have already been to five meetings this season that has started late which is unacceptable for a professional sport. 

I think it all depends on the reason.

[SJA]

Just now, Whitelinehugger said:

I think it all depends on the reason.

Speedway fans know if they turn up late the meeting will be delayed. 

It makes it harder for me as I rely on trains to get to meetings. One late  start has already cost me £185 for a unexpected hotel room.  But the issue is a professional sport should start at the time stated. 19:30 start for me means ready to start heat 1, which also means 2 minutes goes on at 19:28 and a parade should start at 19:23. Not start time at 19:30 and first race gets underway at 19:45 or later.

[LisaColette]

11 minutes ago, HGould said:

Massive credit to Luke Harrison there.

He could easily have been leaving that Track in a far far worse state.

Air / Foam Safety Fences give these young riders a sense of invincibility that the old Fences never did. Therefore they think its hit the fence get up and get back on the bike.

THAT'S GREAT in the sense NO ONE wants anyone to get hurt but someting along the lines of a "Rider Education Programme" needs to be considered. If a Referee or independent ex Rider after video Analysis considers a Rider errant or too hard / risk taker, theyshould be given penalty points on their Racing License and  be made to atend a course at their expense and suspended if they reach a certain number of points

It's no different to driving a Car on the Road! and happens in other forms of motor sports.

Rushen is I believe a good lad, a potentially great talent, but someone seriously needs to sit him down and examine that with him in micro detail and show him the error of his ways. Someone from the GB set up maybe ?

That is all very well but the ref didn't even exclude him, so obviously he didn't think he did anything wrong. 

He is only 16 he is going to make mistakes, as long as he learns from them. Also maybe not have patchy grip when the younger kids are out. Even Ben Cook and Chris Harris were struggling with it a race later. 

[Whitelinehugger]

Just now, SJA said:

Speedway fans know if they turn up late the meeting will be delayed. 

It makes it harder for me as I rely on trains to get to meetings. One late  start has already cost me £185 for an unexpected hotel room.  But the issue is a professional sport should start at the time stated. 19:30 start for me means ready to start heat 1, which also means 2 minutes goes on at 19:28 and a parade should start at 19:23. Not start time at 19:30 and first race gets underway at 19:45 or later.

 Totally see where your coming from and I’d feel the same.

 

[ruckerroo]

Klindt just cba with the track .

[the hobbit]

27 minutes ago, HGould said:

Massive credit to Luke Harrison there.

He could easily have been leaving that Track in a far far worse state.

Air / Foam Safety Fences give these young riders a sense of invincibility that the old Fences never did. Therefore they think its hit the fence get up and get back on the bike.

THAT'S GREAT in the sense NO ONE wants anyone to get hurt but someting along the lines of a "Rider Education Programme" needs to be considered. If a Referee or independent ex Rider after video Analysis considers a Rider errant or too hard / risk taker, theyshould be given penalty points on their Racing License and  be made to atend a course at their expense and suspended if they reach a certain number of points

It's no different to driving a Car on the Road! and happens in other forms of motor sports.

Rushen is I believe a good lad, a potentially great talent, but someone seriously needs to sit him down and examine that with him in micro detail and show him the error of his ways. Someone from the GB set up maybe ?

How about an education course or, a penalty points award for the referee for making such a shocking decision? 
The ref did not look at the video evidence before making his decision , despite the rule book saying he must do so if it is available. 
the excuse that the video evidence was not available whilst the riders were down snd receiving attention, is feeble. Just await those extra few seconds until the riders are sorted then, watch the video ???

 

I was right level with the incident but the fence restricted my view so I was not fully aware of the facts until I saw the video, when it became blatantly obvious that Rushen moved left, to block harrison. 

unaware of Rushen’s error, apart from this incident , I was mightily impressed with his nights work. What a talent. That said however, someone should sit him down, go through the video evidence with him and ensure he learns from this 

both riders could have been seriously injured and were very very lucky to be able to walk back to the pits 

[IainB]

39 minutes ago, HGould said:

Massive credit to Luke Harrison there.

He could easily have been leaving that Track in a far far worse state.

Air / Foam Safety Fences give these young riders a sense of invincibility that the old Fences never did. Therefore they think its hit the fence get up and get back on the bike.

THAT'S GREAT in the sense NO ONE wants anyone to get hurt but someting along the lines of a "Rider Education Programme" needs to be considered. If a Referee or independent ex Rider after video Analysis considers a Rider errant or too hard / risk taker, theyshould be given penalty points on their Racing License and  be made to atend a course at their expense and suspended if they reach a certain number of points

It's no different to driving a Car on the Road! and happens in other forms of motor sports.

Rushen is I believe a good lad, a potentially great talent, but someone seriously needs to sit him down and examine that with him in micro detail and show him the error of his ways. Someone from the GB set up maybe ?

How very 2026 a rider education programme 😂. I prefer old school, as I said earlier a punch on the nose wouldn't have been out of order! But more seriously, when was the last time a referee excluded somebody for dangerous or dirty riding? It is still a rule but just no used:

012.1.14 Foul, Unfair or Dangerous Riding
The Referee shall immediately disqualify any rider who they consider indulges in foul, unfair or dangerous riding.
If, in the opinion of the Referee, such conduct produces an advantage to the rider involved or affects the chances of one or more riders, the Referee may stop the heat and order a re-run.

In certain circumstances the Referee may disqualify a rider for foul, unfair or dangerous riding from the remainder of the meeting. In this case no replacement facilities are allowed for the remainder of a team meeting.
A Referees decision to declare a heat completed, or disqualify a rider from a meeting for foul, unfair or dangerous riding shall be deemed a statement of fact and no protest or appeal is permitted.

31 minutes ago, SJA said:

Yes. How many other sports delay the start time as regularly as Speedway.

I have already been to five meetings this season that has started late which is unacceptable for a professional sport. 

Leicester 2 minutes on at 19:28, tapes up 19:30 👍

 

[SJA]

7 minutes ago, IainB said:

How very 2026 a rider education programme 😂. I prefer old school, as I said earlier a punch on the nose wouldn't have been out of order! But more seriously, when was the last time a referee excluded somebody for dangerous or dirty riding? It is still a rule but just no used:

012.1.14 Foul, Unfair or Dangerous Riding
The Referee shall immediately disqualify any rider who they consider indulges in foul, unfair or dangerous riding.
If, in the opinion of the Referee, such conduct produces an advantage to the rider involved or affects the chances of one or more riders, the Referee may stop the heat and order a re-run.

In certain circumstances the Referee may disqualify a rider for foul, unfair or dangerous riding from the remainder of the meeting. In this case no replacement facilities are allowed for the remainder of a team meeting.
A Referees decision to declare a heat completed, or disqualify a rider from a meeting for foul, unfair or dangerous riding shall be deemed a statement of fact and no protest or appeal is permitted.

Leicester 2 minutes on at 19:28, tapes up 19:30 👍

 

I agree Leicester are possibly the most reliable track regarding start time but even they have delays the start to a meeting I attended this season. I am never keen to rely on the last train which means I need to be back at the station for 22:10 and the local cabs/taxi/Uber struggle to find the speedway car park.

[marko]

42 minutes ago, SJA said:

Yes. How many other sports delay the start time as regularly as Speedway.

I have already been to five meetings this season that has started late which is unacceptable for a professional sport. 

Yes, it’s a professional sport charging professional prices but acting amateurish.

The only reason a meeting should ever be delayed is if there has been a bad accident close by and clearly only a small percentage of the normal/expected crowd has been able to arrive, and even the parade should start on time or be canned so that once racing can start, it’s starts promptly.