Arthur73 Posted 3 hours ago Report Share Posted 3 hours ago 35 minutes ago, PhilTheAce said: looking like the champ are building to 40 points, coleman wants a bigger gap between leagues so i very much doubt it will be 37 points for 6 riders, i really hope its 42 for 6 riders While I completely agree that there should be a wider gap I worry if all clubs will be able to afford to build teams up to very high averages. Could lead to a very uncompetitive league? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur73 Posted 3 hours ago Report Share Posted 3 hours ago 35 minutes ago, PhilTheAce said: looking like the champ are building to 40 points, coleman wants a bigger gap between leagues so i very much doubt it will be 37 points for 6 riders, i really hope its 42 for 6 riders While I completely agree that there should be a wider gap I worry if all clubs will be able to afford to build teams up to very high averages. Could lead to a very uncompetitive league? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aries Posted 3 hours ago Author Report Share Posted 3 hours ago Can’t see it being anything other than 37. The proposed Northampton team has been built to 37 and hasn’t even quite managed that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aries Posted 3 hours ago Author Report Share Posted 3 hours ago 42 minutes ago, PhilTheAce said: looking like the champ are building to 40 points, coleman wants a bigger gap between leagues so i very much doubt it will be 37 points for 6 riders, i really hope its 42 for 6 riders He does, but looks like nobody has listened to him shock horror. If anything, it looks like the leagues have got CLOSER 🙄 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
therefused Posted 3 hours ago Report Share Posted 3 hours ago 9 minutes ago, Aries said: He does, but looks like nobody has listened to him shock horror. If anything, it looks like the leagues have got CLOSER 🙄 agreed its ridiculous that the championship has got even stronger by the looks of it, yet certain teams are scared to step up for some absurd reason. It also leads to bigger mismatches between the championships number 1 & 5 and the 6 & 7s. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPEEDY69 Posted 3 hours ago Report Share Posted 3 hours ago Most of the prospective teams being cited on here look hardly any different to last season's starting seven - and they won't, not with the same points limit. All you can hope for is that most riders live up to their average and one or two increase theirs. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPEEDY69 Posted 3 hours ago Report Share Posted 3 hours ago 3 minutes ago, therefused said: agreed its ridiculous that the championship has got even stronger by the looks of it, yet certain teams are scared to step up for some absurd reason. It also leads to bigger mismatches between the championships number 1 & 5 and the 6 & 7s. Absolutely. The Championship is too strong in terms of top riders. None of those riders at Number 1 and 5 should be able to ride if they're already Premiership heatleaders. Turkeys and Christmas though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted 2 hours ago Report Share Posted 2 hours ago 1 hour ago, SPEEDY69 said: Most of the prospective teams being cited on here look hardly any different to last season's starting seven - and they won't, not with the same points limit. All you can hope for is that most riders live up to their average and one or two increase theirs. If the limit is 37 for 6 on average each team will increase by 2 points ish even with no real improvement from anyone Utter madness continues To start the ratchet of improvement it needs to be at least 40 for the top 6 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
therefused Posted 2 hours ago Report Share Posted 2 hours ago 2 minutes ago, dontforgetthefueltapsbruv said: If the limit is 37 for 6 on average each team will increase by 2 points ish even with no real improvement from anyone Utter madness continues To start the ratchet of improvement it needs to be at least 40 for the top 6 Id have been tempted to set the championship at 36 personally. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted 1 hour ago Report Share Posted 1 hour ago 52 minutes ago, therefused said: Id have been tempted to set the championship at 36 personally. Yes but the Champioship won't vote for that as they want their cake and to eat it Less doubling up and/or a change in the multiplier is required There was a plan to move it gradually from 1.5 to 2 but as with so many positive proposals it was soon dropped 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WookieboyDon Posted 1 hour ago Report Share Posted 1 hour ago (edited) GP rider...Wroclaw link...Magic? Edited 45 minutes ago by WookieboyDon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TTT Posted 44 minutes ago Report Share Posted 44 minutes ago 3 hours ago, PhilTheAce said: looking like the champ are building to 40 points, coleman wants a bigger gap between leagues so i very much doubt it will be 37 points for 6 riders, i really hope its 42 for 6 riders It should be a high Points Limit because the CHAMP shouldn't be close to PREM standard like Coleman is saying. Problem is, Northampton's 1-7 very much sounds like -> Musielak, Morris, Lidsey, Thomson, Iversen, McDiarmid and a Rising Star which comes to just under 37.00. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TTT Posted 27 minutes ago Report Share Posted 27 minutes ago (edited) I do think the limit will be 37.00 as these examples look very realistic to me....The Points Limit should be higher though imo. Also if Eastbourne are running in the PREM then that's another 1-7 that needs putting together which makes me believe that the Points Limit will be on the low side as we don't have enough top end riders to share around. Low points limit at least leaves Eastbourne with potential options like Z. Cook, Nilsson, Lawson etc. BELLE VUE = 36.87 Kurtz, 4.00 Newcomer, B. Cook, Zischke, Bewley, Cairns + Rising Star IPSWICH = 36.97 Doyle, Kemp, King, Brennan, Woryna, Cairns? + Rising Star NORTHAMPTON = 36.83 Musielak, Morris, Lidsey, Thomson, Iversen, McDiarmid + Rising Star Edited 22 minutes ago by TTT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted 15 minutes ago Report Share Posted 15 minutes ago 2 hours ago, SPEEDY69 said: Most of the prospective teams being cited on here look hardly any different to last season's starting seven - and they won't, not with the same points limit. All you can hope for is that most riders live up to their average and one or two increase theirs. If no extra riders want to come over and ride... And some from last season might decide to miss the UK.. You could end up with a lower level of rider in the top tier!! Charles Wright would get a top tier spot next season surely?.. Can't think of too many more of a sufficient level to move into the top tier from the second.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InTheDeepStuff Posted 11 minutes ago Report Share Posted 11 minutes ago From a proposed team I was told (not Ipswich by the way) that was built to 40 points for the 6 riders with R/S not included. To have some new riders over in UK who would come in on assessed 7.50- 8 point averages 40 needs to be the minimum to increase the gap between both leagues Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TTT Posted 3 minutes ago Report Share Posted 3 minutes ago (edited) 10 minutes ago, InTheDeepStuff said: From a proposed team I was told (not Ipswich by the way) that was built to 40 points for the 6 riders with R/S not included. To have some new riders over in UK who would come in on assessed 7.50- 8 point averages 40 needs to be the minimum to increase the gap between both leagues I do hope so but then the proposed Northampton septet would be almost 2.50 Points under the limit even if you replace Iversen with an 8.00 Newcomer. 2 Confirmed starters and ITK's are certain on Musielak, Lidsey and Morris which only = 29.72 Based off the Northampton snippets and confirmed signings the limit looks like being 37.00 or 38.00 top whack because they could replace Iversen with Pickering (8.27) or an 8.00 Newcomer taking the team total to 37.99 or 37.72. Edited just now by TTT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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