Poole Pirates Vs Edinburgh Monarchs play off Semi 1st Leg 16th September

[JanAndersen]

2 minutes ago, marko said:

Heat 1 and already dry and slick, not going to bother wasting my time watching another load of rubbish, there is football on ITV this evening.

Not to sound like a Glasgow fan and moan about tracks but I think this could be the worst £13.99 I’ve spent in a while.  

[THE DEAN MACHINE]

Put some f**king water down, heat 1 and it’s a dust bowl, there is no need for dust at all on an evening meeting 

[JanAndersen]

Double 

Edited 13 hours ago by JanAndersen

[BlueIn2Red]

Such a shame that one of the best attended tracks has such poor racing. I honestly don’t really know why the fans keep coming back, seeing heavy home wins and very little overtaking every week. But they do, so I guess you can’t really criticise the management for preparing things the way they do.

[Fromafar]

Lawson has his detractors but he does his talking on the Track.He certainly knows where to ride the Poole track.As usual away rider wins rider of the riders as it’s the away fans watching on BSN the do the % of the voting Paco.FFS.

[TheWellBehavedWorrall]

2 hours ago, THE DEAN MACHINE said:

Put some f**king water down, heat 1 and it’s a dust bowl, there is no need for dust at all on an evening meeting 

What’s your professional view on this, Dean?

Having never ridden speedway, my perspective is; Poole build strong sides that have the ability to entertain, so why are their home meetings absolute brain damage in terms of quality speedway?

Is this accurate, or am I missing something?

That was a complete waste of money tonight. 

[Fromafar]

1 hour ago, BlueIn2Red said:

Such a shame that one of the best attended tracks has such poor racing. I honestly don’t really know why the fans keep coming back, seeing heavy home wins and very little overtaking every week. But they do, so I guess you can’t really criticise the management for preparing things the way they do.

They are doing something right.Good Management.

[Fromafar]

37 minutes ago, TheWellBehavedWorrall said:

What’s your professional view on this, Dean?

Having never ridden speedway, my perspective is; Poole build strong sides that have the ability to entertain, so why are their home meetings absolute brain damage in terms of quality speedway?

Is this accurate, or am I missing something?

That was a complete waste of money tonight. 

That meeting tonight was as entertaining as anything I have seen at Armadale this season.

[Fromafar]

37 minutes ago, TheWellBehavedWorrall said:

What’s your professional view on this, Dean?

Having never ridden speedway, my perspective is; Poole build strong sides that have the ability to entertain, so why are their home meetings absolute brain damage in terms of quality speedway?

Is this accurate, or am I missing something?

That was a complete waste of money tonight. 

That meeting tonight was as entertaining as anything I have seen at Armadale this season.

[StevePark]

2 hours ago, BlueIn2Red said:

Such a shame that one of the best attended tracks has such poor racing. I honestly don’t really know why the fans keep coming back, seeing heavy home wins and very little overtaking every week. But they do, so I guess you can’t really criticise the management for preparing things the way they do.

I think you've answered your own question there.

[Bitza]

1 hour ago, Fromafar said:

Lawson has his detractors but he does his talking on the Track.He certainly knows where to ride the Poole track.As usual away rider wins rider of the riders as it’s the away fans watching on BSN the do the % of the voting Paco.FFS.

Really great to see Lawson back to his usual self, bodes well for the remaining meetings. Slater is getting better by the heat, Zac is a handful for anyone, Lewis was sluggish to start yes but got it sorted, Kyle is more than was expected, Will had issues sure but can still win heats, Rushen is pulling his weight too. On top of the individual performances there was also some textbook team riding too winning more points. None of the opposition will be taking anything for granted 

The  knee jerk track criticism that inevitably follows any Pirates home win is just background noise, and the querying of why Pirate's fan's enjoy watching their team win is......kinda puzzling?

Edited 10 hours ago by Bitza

[THE DEAN MACHINE]

1 hour ago, TheWellBehavedWorrall said:

What’s your professional view on this, Dean?

Having never ridden speedway, my perspective is; Poole build strong sides that have the ability to entertain, so why are their home meetings absolute brain damage in terms of quality speedway?

Is this accurate, or am I missing something?

That was a complete waste of money tonight. 

I’m sick of dusty tracks, it’s not just Poole it seems to be everywhere in current speedway and ultimately it makes for crap racing, put some god damn water down and if the riders moan tell them to sod off and do something else, it seems no consideration is given to fans getting covered in dust these days, Poole attendance levels are maintained by their winning ethos but for a play off meeting I thought that crowd was poor 

[Fromafar]

1 hour ago, Bitza said:

Really great to see Lawson back to his usual self, bodes well for the remaining meetings. Slater is getting better by the heat, Zac is a handful for anyone, Lewis was sluggish to start yes but got it sorted, Kyle is more than was expected, Will had issues sure but can still win heats, Rushen is pulling his weight too. On top of the individual performances there was also some textbook team riding too winning more points. None of the opposition will be taking anything for granted 

The  knee jerk track criticism that inevitably follows any Pirates home win is just background noise, and the querying of why Pirate's fan's enjoy watching their team win is......kinda puzzling?

Slater is very impressive IMo.Certainly has the bike handling skills and track craft.

[Odds On]

what a complete embarrassment last night was, Poole took track prep and maintenance to a whole new level, seen some rubbish shows in and around speedway over the years but that was an all time low.

[Catalan]

28 minutes ago, Odds On said:

what a complete embarrassment last night was, Poole took track prep and maintenance to a whole new level, seen some rubbish shows in and around speedway over the years but that was an all time low.

 

7 hours ago, THE DEAN MACHINE said:

I’m sick of dusty tracks, it’s not just Poole it seems to be everywhere in current speedway and ultimately it makes for crap racing, put some god damn water down and if the riders moan tell them to sod off and do something else, it seems no consideration is given to fans getting covered in dust these days, Poole attendance levels are maintained by their winning ethos but for a play off meeting I thought that crowd was poor 

Dean you wouldn't believe the hassle the track staff have when they want to put water down.

Lot's of moaning from the riders, which I find odd as same riders usually ride really well after track grades.

[BlueIn2Red]

9 hours ago, Bitza said:

… and the querying of why Pirate's fan's enjoy watching their team win is......kinda puzzling?

It’s the scale of the wins, not the pure fact of winning. Surely more fans would prefer to see a 40-38 than a 60-18?!?

[foreverblue]

4 minutes ago, BlueIn2Red said:

It’s the scale of the wins, not the pure fact of winning. Surely more fans would prefer to see a 40-38 than a 60-18?!?

It is the same for both teams though, surely the away side should have got their set ups right after a couple of rides but it was the end of the meeting where we really put them to the sword. The scale of the win is due to Poole being a much better team.

I do agree more water should be used to keep the dust down for the spectators.

[THE DEAN MACHINE]

1 hour ago, Catalan said:

 

Dean you wouldn't believe the hassle the track staff have when they want to put water down.

Lot's of moaning from the riders, which I find odd as same riders usually ride really well after track grades.

I do believe it, I’ve been there, I have prepped a couple of tracks over the years and have been in enough meetings to know how riders moan, the riders are the first to moan about the tyres not up to the job but you put dirt and water down which would help the tyres and they moan cause the engines which “they” choose don’t like it, this is why the dictatorship that is riders running the sport for the riders needs to stop 

[False dawn]

51 minutes ago, BlueIn2Red said:

It’s the scale of the wins, not the pure fact of winning. Surely more fans would prefer to see a 40-38 than a 60-18?!?

I agree. My old mate Bryn Williams (RIP) once said to me that he couldn't understand fans anymore, clapping their hands off watching 5-1 after 5-1.

[BTW you're showing your age with those meeting scores!]

[marko]

Need to start boycotting BSN who give money to tracks like this, I am not giving money to clubs who constantly take the mic anymore, I am done, I would sooner buy a few streams from Belle Vue and watch that even though it would be a lot less value for money.

It the only way, hit clubs in the pocket, the BSPA wont do anything neither will Phil Morris it seems.