THE BIG ONE! KO CUP FINAL (BANDITS v GLADIATORS) Saturday 26th, 7pm

[Pinny]

I think the fact Berwick have a 100 percent record at home proves fans will turn up to watch a winning side at home. Throw in a cup final after knocking out the league champions elect as well and its no wonder the crowd was big. 
 

Fans dont care about the racing on the whole , they want to see their team win. 
 

Exeter were proof of this, great spectacle of a track with you being so close to the action but mainly gate and go, heavy home wins every week and they had good crowds right up until they shut despite usually being rubbish away from home.

Morris will be one of the signings of the season next year I am sure, he has been flying the second half of the season. 

[marko]

And in the days before the internet and streaming you never saw your team race away unless you actually went, home wins were the key as only a very tiny percentage of fans went to away matches unless it was a local derby.

Winning at home will always be important to maintain crowds, Exeter was always about winning at home by as much as they can and hoping it would be enough to seal the bonus point which it often was.

Certainly under a play off format, winning all your home matches and collecting all the bonus points should see you qualify.

[Gambo95]

19 hours ago, Steve Shovlar said:

As a neutral I don’t give two tosses who wins the cup. I wanted an 8-10 point Berwick win to set it up nicely for the second leg. The fact that the meeting was poor entertainment with a drag race to the first bend made for finger in the fast forward button. For neutrals it doesn’t float our boats.

As for the crowd it was good to see a decent crowd at Berwick. Must have been a thousand there at least.

Could you ask Poole why they scored 57 points against Edinburgh?

I would have liked a 8-10 point lead for Poole to make the second leg more interesting.

[Fromafar]

21 hours ago, Steve Shovlar said:

As a neutral I don’t give two tosses who wins the cup. I wanted an 8-10 point Berwick win to set it up nicely for the second leg. The fact that the meeting was poor entertainment with a drag race to the first bend made for finger in the fast forward button. For neutrals it doesn’t float our boats.

As for the crowd it was good to see a decent crowd at Berwick. Must have been a thousand there at least.

Specsavers for you there was at least 400/500 on the back strait/3rd bend alone.It wasn’t poor entertainment if you were there with the atmosphere(just like Poole).

[Steve Shovlar]

1 hour ago, Gambo95 said:

Could you ask Poole why they scored 57 points against Edinburgh?

I would have liked a 8-10 point lead for Poole to make the second leg more interesting.

I said, “as a neutral”. Fans of Berwick would have been thrilled to have such a big lead to make the second leg redundant. 

[Youhave2minutes]

It’s all over for Plymouth.

[Gambo95]

3 hours ago, Steve Shovlar said:

I said, “as a neutral”. Fans of Berwick would have been thrilled to have such a big lead to make the second leg redundant. 

I was a "neutral" watching the Poole v Edinburgh match also (just like you were on Saturday).

[Magicmike]

So Danny king can score 7 points so far against the best team in the country riding and beating berwicks no 1, but scores 4 against a championship team I’m finding that a head scratcher 

[Fromafar]

1 hour ago, Magicmike said:

So Danny king can score 7 points so far against the best team in the country riding and beating berwicks no 1, but scores 4 against a championship team I’m finding that a head scratcher 

Totally different circumstances,you should know that.He might beat him at Plymouth though again totally different circumstances.👍

[crescent girl]

Superb coverage of the bunny's invasion!   

Three local TV channels, and Sarah Cox on Radio 2 (with rated listening figures in the millions) all covering the chase.   

Greg Blair must henceforth by known as Elmer Fudd.

 

[Pinny]

I see Plymouth have got the begging bowl out stating if they dont raise 46k for a new air fence they wont be open next season! 
 

Have promotions over the years that making such threats does no good? Anyone with half a brain cell isn't going to invest in a new fence for a club that isn't financially able to afford it themselves. 
 

 

[noaksey]

3 hours ago, Pinny said:

I see Plymouth have got the begging bowl out stating if they dont raise 46k for a new air fence they wont be open next season! 
 

Have promotions over the years that making such threats does no good? Anyone with half a brain cell isn't going to invest in a new fence for a club that isn't financially able to afford it themselves. 
 

 

I doubt there are any clubs in the championship bar possibly one that could "afford it themselves" from normal revenue

These capital items are either paid by the owners if they are able to or by methods such as Plymouth are suggesting if they can't or won't 

Otherwise there's no Plymouth

 

 

 

[Pinny]

2 hours ago, noaksey said:

I doubt there are any clubs in the championship bar possibly one that could "afford it themselves" from normal revenue

These capital items are either paid by the owners if they are able to or by methods such as Plymouth are suggesting if they can't or won't 

Otherwise there's no Plymouth

 

 

 

 

2 hours ago, noaksey said:

I doubt there are any clubs in the championship bar possibly one that could "afford it themselves" from normal revenue

These capital items are either paid by the owners if they are able to or by methods such as Plymouth are suggesting if they can't or won't 

Otherwise there's no Plymouth

 

 

 

Threatening closure because they cant afford an air fence is pathetic. If you were a potential investor into the air fence and you read the press release they put out, you would stay well clear. 
 

Another prime example of why speedway isn't classed as a professional sport in the Uk by most.

[noaksey]

1 hour ago, Pinny said:

 

Threatening closure because they cant afford an air fence is pathetic. If you were a potential investor into the air fence and you read the press release they put out, you would stay well clear. 
 

Another prime example of why speedway isn't classed as a professional sport in the Uk by most.

So if you are a club owner but can't afford to meet large scale capital expenditure then you would prevent them from obtaining investment and/or donations from the fan base?

That may well mean the end of Plymouth or any club that would find themselves on a similar position.

With a small number of active tracks that's a very big call especially as no club could probably meet these type of expenses from normal income/expenditure and would be relying on their owners to fund 

[Pinny]

6 minutes ago, noaksey said:

So if you are a club owner but can't afford to meet large scale capital expenditure then you would prevent them from obtaining investment and/or donations from the fan base?

That may well mean the end of Plymouth or any club that would find themselves on a similar position.

With a small number of active tracks that's a very big call especially as no club could probably meet these type of expenses from normal income/expenditure and would be relying on their owners to fund 

100 percent. Its like a chippy threatening to not do a job unless the customer buys them a set of power tools. 

[SteveLyric2]

15 minutes ago, Pinny said:

100 percent. Its like a chippy threatening to not do a job unless the customer buys them a set of power tools. 

The best of luck to Plymouth, but why wait til the last meeting to make an appeal? Surely this should have been an all season effort....

[TheWellBehavedWorrall]

19 hours ago, Pinny said:

I see Plymouth have got the begging bowl out stating if they dont raise 46k for a new air fence they wont be open next season! 
 

Have promotions over the years that making such threats does no good? Anyone with half a brain cell isn't going to invest in a new fence for a club that isn't financially able to afford it themselves. 
 

 

That is absolutely awful from Plymouth.😂

I’m laughing, but that’s so poor. It’s the biggest meeting of the season and Gladiators’ fans will already be gutted about the first leg, but instead of a galvanising article, it’s: we need £46K or you’ll have no speedway next season.

What a prospect, walking into the Coliseum; about a 2% chance of winning the trophy and faced with the prospect this will be the last meeting at Plymouth.

P*ss poor from the powers that be at Plymouth and a prime example of why British speedway is in the state it’s in. In other sports, sensibility prevails. In British speedway, it doesn’t.

Remarkable that’s been given the green light for release. At least two grown adults have read that and thought “yeah, that’ll do”.

[Pinny]

I always cringe when clubs make such threats to the fans. Seen it at Newport with Mallett nearly every week begging for more fans through the gate and it honestly usually made the crowds for the next meeting worse.

Clubs should be able to provide everything required to operate without making threats. An insult to the paying fans who have attended all season.

[penchev]

Question to be asked is 

If Plymouth had only lost the 1st leg by 8 or 10 points would the air fence even be mentioned 

[DJC]

7 hours ago, Pinny said:

I always cringe when clubs make such threats to the fans. Seen it at Newport with Mallett nearly every week begging for more fans through the gate and it honestly usually made the crowds for the next meeting worse.

Clubs should be able to provide everything required to operate without making threats. An insult to the paying fans who have attended all season.

The irony with them being more people got in free than paid!