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Once again you malign a rider without worrying about the truth. KK had one bad meeting - the one away to Coventry when Crump returned. JC scored 15, KK, 2. He was “spoken to” after that and his home scores after that - up until JC got injured - were 11+2, 12 and 11. To me, that’s not exactly losing interest. And, if he changed in his van, he must have had a secret door from the changing rooms to the car park as he went in there in his day clothes, and came out in his race suit. I am biased of course because he exceeded my expectations and was one of the most professional riders I had to deal with.

Debs... or whatever you chose to call yourself at this particular moment is like thrush. An irritable twät who just wont go away.

cost IOW and Play Off chance, cost Eastbourne an excellent KOCup Final chance and probably the Cup, crap attitude to the Teams and supporters who pay his wages. what's to like?

You got that right... Nobody who saw Wroclaw could fail to get a buzz...

Track has had a lot of rain on it and won't take a lot more however a small deficit and rusty Belle Vue will mean Kent will definitely want this one going ahead. I certainly hope its a full and fair 15 heat affair with the best side coming out on top. Nobody likes these evnts decided by contentious decisions.

And Adonis, perhaps he's reading it on his latest 'holiday' from the forum.

Hate to tell you this, when I left UK -left strict instructions for my mam(RIP)never to chuck out any of my speedway stuff.After I knew I wasn't going back I asked her to ship 'em all over-so I have all my progs and Annuals from the sixties till when I left-actually I do refer to them e.g. re the Clive Featherby thread- re Les McGillivray thread will get around to checking out the meetings I saw Les race. Call me a nerd (you won't be the first0 or as you say over there an anorak. I don't care-I'm just glad I still got 'em they bring back lots of memories.

The 2020 line up may be fairly close to the world’s top fifteen but with a very similar field to this year and with pretty much the same tracks it doesn’t fill me with great anticipation for next year. Smacks of more of the same which, for me at least, wasn’t a particularly vintage year.

It's funny, looking at some of the comments on these threads (not just this particular one)... Some don't want Hancock because he's old. Some don't want Hancock because he's "boring". Some don't want Lindback because he's "never finished higher than seventh". Some don't want Iversen and Zagar because "they don't add anything". Some don't want Laguta because he is "just a gater". Some want a bunch of youngsters, just because "they are the future". The thing to remember is that this is the World Championship. Unlike the old system, the GP series is actually designed to include the best 15 riders in the world, and surely, that SHOULD be a goal of ANY world championship. World championships are designed to find the best right now, not those who will be competing ten years down the road. No, it's not going to be perfect, as nothing ever is. There will always be questions. Yes, personally, I would like to have seen Michelsen in place of Lindback, but can ANYONE state categorically that the line-up for 2020 doesn't include - or at least come damn close to including - all the best riders in the world? Steve

I fail to see what Linback has done to justify a wildcard

Brandon always staged a donkey race (“one lap, carrot start”) plus rider interviews and fireworks

So basically its the same as this year but Koldej out Fricke in. Good job it was a decent series this year. new faces or not 2020 looks a strong line up.

Do you have any compelling evidence to the contrary?

Not a surprise, but this from the SGP website says it all. Hancock is set for an historic return to speedway in a year, which will see him become the first 50-year-old to compete in the SGP series, when he celebrates his half-century on June 3, 2020. This is not a sporting decision, this is a marketing decision. If we are going purely from sport, there is literally zero evidence that he is capable of competing after what, 15-16 months out of the saddle? Whilst I am not a fan after his pathetic bullying campaign against Nicki, I truly hope that he can compete otherwise it will prove the mockery of the system. So many questions... How much will they hype his age up next season? How much influence do Monster have in this process? Was that the real reason Monster flew him over to Cardiff? Is he definitely riding? Because if not it will be unfair on the reserve call-up if that rider gets told he's riding the series at the very last minute.

Cant say I disagree with you, but that isn't the fault of the riders involved; qualification opportunities are there, but if nobody new is able to step up and qualify, then what can you do? The problem is that there are a small group of riders who (and this may sound harsh) aren't good enough to consistently challenge the elite. However, there is nobody out there better than them, so they usually re-qualify, or get the wildcards because there is nobody ready to take their place.

Quite honestly, I didn't either. It was only after looking at some of the alternatives I realised that he was even a contender. For some reason, there is quite a gulf between levels at the moment...

I don't believe KK was released from Coventry twice, and when I released him in 2013 it was for just the last match of the season to give Linus Sundstrom an opportunity.

Depends which league you guys are in now. Rumour is you've been bought by Buster.

Lindback? No words.......

Martin Smolinski or Zach Waj

The fact the shilling wasn’t accepted after 1990 just proves how far away you’re talking... nearly 30 years! They use a system called contactless now albeit I doubt most speedway stadiums have it as they’re still stuck in circa 00’s LOL

If they had suits that is

Wrong- he is one of the 5 riders nominated for best foreign rider of the season !!

MIDLAND & SOUTHERN DEVELOPMENT LEAGUE 2019 Compiled by Mike Moseley TEAM MAT WON DRAWN LOST FOR AGAINST TOTAL Birmingham 12 10 0 2 246 170 20 Isle of Wight 12 8 0 4 230 185 16 Exeter 11 8 0 3 204 167 16 Reading 12 7 0 5 219 188 14 Carmarthen 12 6 0 6 211 203 12 Milton Keynes 12 1 1 10 151 266 3 Weymouth 11 0 1 10 149 231 1 BIRMINGHAM 1st May 2019 BIRMINGHAM 26: Tom Spencer 8 Arran Butcher 8 Sheldon Davies 7 Jacob Fellows 3 READING 10: Nick Laurence 4 Sam Norris 3 William O’Keefe 3 Ben Phillips 0 29th May 2019 BIRMINGHAM 27: Tom Spencer 9 Sheldon Davies 7 Ben Phillips 6 Arran Butcher 5 MILTON KEYNES 8: Luke Muff 4 George Beall 3 Craig Osborne 1 Sam Boon 0 3rd July 2019 BIRMINGHAM 21: Tom Spencer 9 Arran Butcher 7 Bailey Fellows 4 Jacob Fellows 1 ISLE OF WIGHT 15: Chris Watts 7 Eli Meadows 4 Morgan Williams 3 Ben Ilsley 1 24th July 2019 BIRMINGHAM 21: Arran Butcher 12 Sheldon Davies 5 Jacob Fellows 4 Rachel Hellowell 0 EXETER 15: Saul Bulley 6 Adam Sheppard 5 James Chattin 2 Max Pankhurst 2 7th August 2019 BIRMINGHAM 20: Arran Butcher 12 Bailey Fellows 4 Tom Spencer 3 Rachel Hellowell 1 CARMARTHEN 16: Danny Woodward 9 Adam Barber 4 Tim Colley 3 Luke Barnes 0 4th September 2019 BIRMINGHAM 22: Arran Butcher 8 Luke Muff 7 Bailey Fellows 5 Kean Dicken 2 WEYMOUTH 14: James Laker 8 Stephen Whitehouse 3 Sam Peters 2 Francesca Kirtley-Paine 1 CARMARTHEN 22nd June 2019 CARMARTHEN 18: Joe Alcock 6 Adam Barber 5 Tim Colley 4 Luke Barnes 3 WEYMOUTH 12: James Laker 6 James Jessop 4 Francesca Kirtley-Paine 2 Ben Phillips 0 29th June 2019 CARMARTHEN 21: Tim Colley 6 Joe Alcock 6 Luke Whitehead 5 Danny Woodward 4 BIRMINGHANM 14: Arran Butcher 9 Jacob Fellows 3 Bailey Fellows 2 Rachel Hellowell 0 6th July 2019 CARMARTHEN 16: Elliot Kelly 6 Danny Woodward 6 Adam Barber 3 Tim Colley 1 EXETER 19: Adam Sheppard 8 James Chattin 5 Jamie Bursill 5 Kris Andrews 1 31st August 2019 CARMARTHEN 14: Danny Woodward 10 Tim Colley 2 Ben Phillips 2 Lawrence Fielding 0 ISLE OF WIGHT 22: Chad Wirtzfeld 9 Jamie Sealey 5 Chris Watts 5 James Luckman 3 7th September 2019 CARMARTHEN 15: Joe Alcock 9 Luke Whitehead 5 Ben Phillips 1 Tim Colley 0 READING 21: Kieran Douglas 7 Corban Pavitt 7 William O’Keefe 4 Gregor Millar 3 14th September 2019 CARMARTHEN 27: Joe Alcock 9 Elliot Kelly 8 Tim Colley 5 Ben Phillips 5 MILTON KEYNES 9: Luke Muff 5 Stephen Whitehouse 2 Craig Osborne 2 Sam Boon 0 EXETER 24th May 2019 EXETER 20: Saul Bulley 7 James Chattin 6 Kris Andrews 5 Max Pankhurst 2 ISLE OF WIGHT 15: Connor King 11 Morgan Williams 3 Ben Ilsley 1 Jamie Sealey 0 5th July 2019 EXETER 14: Saul Bulley 5 Adam Sheppard 5 Kris Andrews 2 Kai Ward 2 READING 16: Jacob Cloutng 9 Jamie Bursill 4 Russell Barnett 2 William O’Keefe 1 2nd August 2019 EXETER 14: Saul Bulley 4 James Chattin 4 Adam Sheppard 3 Kris Andrews 3 BIRMINGHAM 22: Arran Butcher 11 Tom Spencer 10 Jacob Fellows 1 23rd August 2019 EXETER 16: Kai Ward 8 Adam Sheppard 4 Kris Andrews 4 CARMARTHEN 13: Joe Alcock 12 Lawrence Fielding 1 Tim Colley 0 6th September 2019 EXETER 22: James Chattin 9 Kai Ward 6 Kris Andrews 4 Craig Nethercott 3 MILTON KEYNES 14: Stephen Whitehouse 10 James Spencer 3 Sam Peters 1 ISLE OF WIGHT 2nd May 2019 ISLE OF WIGHT 16: Chris Watts 8 Chad Wirtzfeld 6 Jamie Sealey 2 Ben Ilsley 0 EXETER 20: Saul Bulley 11 Max Pankhurst 5 James Chattin 3 Adam Sheppard 1 23rd May 2019 ISLE OF WIGHT 15: Chris Watts 6 Morgan Williams 4 Jamie Sealey 3 Ben Ilsley 2 CARMARTHEN 21: Joe Alcock 7 Luke Barnes 7 Danny Woodward 6 Tim Colley 1 27th June 2019 ISLE OF WIGHT 21: Chris Watts 9 Jamie Sealey 6 Ben Ilsley 6 Morgan Williams 0 WEYMOUTH 15: James Laker 8 Andrew Palmer 5 Sam Peters 2 Francesca Kirtley-Paine 0 4th July 2019 ISLE OF WIGHT 23: Morgan Williams 8 Chris Watts 7 Ben Ilsley 5 James Luckham 3 MILTON KEYNES 13: Connor King 9 Sam Boon 4 Stephanie Whitlock 0 James Spencer 0 8th August 2019 ISLE OF WIGHT 23: Chad Wirtzfeld 9 Chris Watts 6 Jamie Sealey 5 Morgan Williams 3 READING 13: Jamie Bursill 8 Nick Laurence 2 William O’Keefe 2 Rhys Laker 1 29th August 2019 ISLE OF WIGHT 17: Chad Wirtzfeld 6 Chris Watts 5 Morgan Williams 3 Jamie Sealey 3 BIRMINGHAM 6: Arran Butcher 5 Jacob Fellows 1 MILTON KEYNES 5th June 2019 MILTON KEYNES 7: Stephen Whitehouse 5 James Spencer 2 Craig Osborne 0 Sam Boon 0 READING 23: William O’Keefe 7 Elliot Kelly 6 Kieran Douglas 6 Rhys Laker 4 19th June 2019 MILTON KEYNES 10: Luke Muff 6 Ben Phillips 3 James Spencer 1 Craig Osborne 0 ISLE OF WIGHT 26: Chris Watts 9 Jamie Sealey 6 Ben Ilsley 6 Morgan Williams 5 17th July 2019 MILTON KEYNES 14: Stephen Whitehouse 6 Luke Muff 5 James Spencer 3 Sam Boon 0 CARMARTHEN 21: Danny Woodward 8 Adam Barber 7 Tim Colley 6 Ben Phillips 0 21st August 2019 MILTON KEYNES 7: Luke Muff 4 James Spencer 2 Eli Meadows 1 Sam Boon 0 EXETER 23: James Chattin 9 Adam Sheppard 6 Max Pankhurst 5 Kai Ward 3 22nd August 2019 – Raced at Swindon MILTON KEYNES 24: James Spencer 7 Luke Muff 7 James Chattin 6 Eli Meadows 4 WEYMOUTH 11: James Laker 6 James Jessop 3 Francesca Kirtley-Paine 2 Sam Peters 0 11th September 2019 MILTON KEYNES 13: James Chattin 7 Luke Muff 2 Craig Osborne 2 James Spencer 2 BIRMINGHAM 23: Arran Butcher 9 Bailey Fellows 5 Kean Dicken 5 Tom Spencer 4 READING 22nd April 2019 READING 16: Sam Norris 9 Adam Sheppard 5 Rhys Laker 2 ISLE OF WIGHT 17: Chad Wirtzfeld 9 Chris Watts 5 Jamie Sealey 2 Ben Ilsley 1 27th May 2019 READING 20: Sam Norris 6 Rhys Laker 5 William O’Keefe 5 Nick Laurence 4 WEYMOUTH 10: James Laker 6 Sam Peters 2 James Jessop 2 Francesca Kirtley-Paine 0 27th June 2019 – Amended Result READING 14: William O’Keefe 7 Nick Laurence 4 Rhys Laker 3 Eli Meadows 0 EXETER 18: Adam Sheppard 6 James Chattin 4 Max Pankhurst 4 Saul Bulley 4 18th July 2019 READING 15: Nick Laurence 7 William O’Keefe 6 Rhys Laker 2 Eli Meadows 0 BIRMINGHAM 21: Sheldon Davies 9 Bailey Fellows 6 Jacob Fellows 5 Arran Butcher 1 26th August 2019 READING 22: Nick Laurence 9 William O’Keefe 7 Rhys Laker 4 Eli Meadows 2 MILTON KEYNES 14: Luke Muff 6 Stephen Whitehouse 4 James Spencer 4 Craig Osborne 0 29th August 2019 READING 25: Nick Laurence 8 William O’Keefe 8 Rhys Laker 6 Eli Meadows 3 CARMARTHEN 11: Tim Colley 6 Danny Woodward 4 Lawrence Fielding 1 Ben Phillips 0 WEYMOUTH 2nd May 2019 WEYMOUTH 18: James Laker 9 Jacob Clouting 6 Sam Peters 2 Francesca Kirtley-Paine 1 MILTON KEYNES 18: Luke Muff 7 James Spencer 4 George Beall 4 Craig Osborne 3 30th May 2019 WEYMOUTH 16: James Laker 8 Francesca Kirtley-Paine 5 Sam Peters 2 Andrew Palmer 1 CARMARTHEN 18: Luke Whitehead 9 Joe Alcock 5 Danny Woodward 4 18th July 2019 WEYMOUTH 13: James Laker 8 James Jessop 3 Sam Peters 2 Francesca Kirtley-Paine 0 EXETER 23: James Chattin 8 Adam Sheppard 6 Kris Andrews 5 Kai Ward 4 1st August 2019 WEYMOUTH 12: Jacob Clouting 6 James Laker 4 Andrew Palmer 2 James Jessop 0 BIRMINGHAM 23: Arran Butcher 8 Tom Spencer 8 Jacob Fellows 4 Bailey Fellows 3 5th September 2019 WEYMOUTH 12: James Laker 6 Jamie Evans 4 Darren Carr 1 Sam Peters 1 READING 24: Nick Laurence 9 Rhys Laker 6 William O’Keefe 6 Eli Meadows 3 12th September 2019 WEYMOUTH 16: Jacob Clouting 8 James Laker 8 Francesca Kirtley-Paine 0 Sam Peters 0 ISLE OF WIGHT 20: Chad Wirtzfeld 8 Chris Watts 6 Morgan Williams 3 Jamie Sealey 3 MIDLAND & SOUTHERN DEVELOPMENT LEAGUE AVERAGES 2019 League matches only. Averages don't include bonus points. (Compiled by Mike Moseley) BIRMINGHAM RIDER MAT RIDES POINTS BP TOTAL AVERAGE Arran Butcher 12 37 95 2 97 10.27 Sheldon Davies 4 11 28 4 32 10.18 Tom Spencer 7 21 51 4 55 9.71 Luke Muff 1 3 7 0 7 9.33 Ben Phillips 1 3 6 1 7 8.00 Bailey Fellows 7 21 29 8 37 5.52 Kean Dicken 2 6 7 3 10 4.67 Jacob Fellows 8 24 22 6 28 3.67 Rachel Hellowell 3 9 1 0 1 0.44 CARMARTHEN Joe Alcock 7 21 54 1 55 10.29 Elliot Kelly 2 6 14 1 15 9.33 Danny Woodward 8 27 51 3 54 7.56 Luke Whitehead 3 11 19 1 20 6.91 Luke Barnes 3 6 10 1 11 6.67 Adam Barber 4 12 19 7 26 6.33 Tim Colley 11 34 34 5 39 4.00 Ben Phillips 5 13 8 0 8 2.46 Lawrence Fielding 3 8 2 0 2 1.00 EXETER Jamie Bursill 1 2 5 0 5 10.00 Saul Bulley 6 18 37 2 39 8.22 Adam Sheppard 9 22 44 1 45 8.00 James Chattin 9 29 50 4 54 6.90 Kai Ward 5 15 23 4 27 6.13 Max Pankhurst 5 14 18 7 25 5.14 Kris Andrews 7 21 24 7 31 4.57 Craig Nethercott 1 3 3 1 4 3.00 ISLE OF WIGHT Chad Wirtzfeld 6 17 47 0 47 11.06 Connor King 1 4 11 0 11 11.00 Chris Watts 11 34 73 1 74 8.59 Morgan Williams 9 23 32 9 41 5.57 Eli Meadows 1 3 4 2 6 5.33 Jamie Sealey 10 30 35 7 42 4.67 Ben Ilsley 8 22 22 9 31 4.00 James Luckham 2 6 6 3 9 4.00 MILTON KEYNES Connor King 1 3 9 0 9 12.00 James Chattin 2 6 13 0 13 8.67 Luke Muff 9 26 46 1 47 7.08 Stephen Whitehouse 5 16 27 0 27 6.75 George Beall 2 6 7 0 7 4.67 Eli Meadows 2 5 5 2 7 4.00 Ben Phillips 1 3 3 0 3 4.00 James Spencer 10 30 28 6 34 3.73 Craig Osborne 7 21 8 3 11 1.52 Sam Boon 6 15 4 0 4 1.07 Sam Peters 1 4 1 0 1 1.00 Stephanie Whitlock 1 3 0 0 0 0.00 READING Jacob Clouting 1 3 9 0 9 12.00 Elliot Kelly 1 2 6 0 6 12.00 Kieran Douglas 2 5 13 0 13 10.40 Jamie Bursill 2 5 12 0 12 9.60 Corban Pavitt 1 3 7 0 7 9.33 Nick Laurence 8 23 47 2 49 8.17 William O’Keefe 11 31 56 7 63 7.23 Sam Norris 3 10 18 0 18 7.20 Adam Sheppard 1 4 5 2 7 5.00 Rhys Laker 9 28 33 8 41 4.71 Gregor Millar 1 3 3 2 5 4.00 Russell Barnett 1 3 2 1 3 2.67 Eli Meadows 5 15 8 4 12 2.13 Ben Phillips 1 3 0 0 0 0.00 WEYMOUTH James Laker 11 32 77 1 78 9.63 Jacob Clouting 3 9 20 0 20 8.89 Jamie Evans 1 3 4 0 4 5.33 Stephen Whitehouse 1 3 3 0 3 4.00 Andrew Palmer 3 9 8 2 10 3.56 James Jessop 5 14 12 1 13 3.43 Sam Peters 9 26 13 3 16 2.00 Cesca Kirtley-Paine 9 27 11 1 12 1.63 Darren Carr 1 3 1 1 2 1.33 Ben Phillips 1 1 0 0 0 0.00 MIDLAND & SOUTHERN DEVELOPMENT LEAGUE 2019 (League Matches excluding only, bonus points) Compiled by Mike Moseley. RIDER MEETINGS RIDES POINTS BP TOTAL AVERAGE Connor King 2 7 20 0 20 11.43 Chad Wirtzfeld 6 17 47 0 47 11.06 Kieran Douglas 2 5 13 0 13 10.40 Joe Alcock 7 21 54 1 55 10.29 Arran Butcher 12 37 95 2 97 10.27 Sheldon Davies 4 11 28 4 32 10.18 Elliot Kelly 3 8 20 1 21 10.00 Jamie Bursill 3 7 17 0 17 9.71 Tom Spencer 7 21 51 4 55 9.71 Jacob Clouting 4 12 29 0 29 9.67 James Laker 11 32 77 1 78 9.63 Corban Pavitt 1 3 7 0 7 9.33 Chris Watts 11 34 73 1 74 8.59 Saul Bulley 6 18 37 2 39 8.22 Nick Laurence 8 23 47 2 49 8.17 Danny Woodward 8 27 51 3 54 7.56 Adam Sheppard 10 26 49 3 52 7.54 Luke Muff 10 29 53 1 54 7.31 William O’Keefe 11 31 56 7 63 7.23 James Chattin 11 35 63 4 67 7.20 Sam Norris 3 10 18 0 18 7.20 Luke Whitehead 3 11 19 1 20 6.91 Luke Barnes 3 6 10 1 11 6.67 Adam Barber 4 12 19 7 26 6.33 Stephen Whitehouse 6 19 30 0 30 6.32 Kai Ward 5 15 23 4 27 6.13 Morgan Williams 9 23 32 9 41 5.57 Bailey Fellows 7 21 29 8 37 5.52 Jamie Evans 1 3 4 0 4 5.33 Max Pankhurst 5 14 18 7 25 5.14 Rhys Laker 9 28 33 8 41 4.71 George Beall 2 6 7 0 7 4.67 Kean Dicken 2 6 7 3 10 4.67 Jamie Sealey 10 30 35 7 42 4.67 Kris Andrews 7 21 24 7 31 4.57 Tim Colley 11 34 34 5 39 4.00 Ben Ilsley 8 22 22 9 31 4.00 James Luckham 2 6 6 3 9 4.00 Gregor Millar 1 3 3 2 5 4.00 Craig Nethercott 1 3 3 1 4 4.00 James Spencer 10 30 28 6 34 3.73 Jacob Fellows 8 24 22 6 28 3.67 Andrew Palmer 3 9 8 2 10 3.56 James Jessop 5 14 12 1 13 3.43 Eli Meadows 8 23 17 8 25 2.96 Ben Phillips 9 23 17 1 18 2.96 Russell Barnett 1 3 2 1 3 2.67 Sam Peters 10 30 14 3 17 1.87 Francesca Kirtley-Paine 9 27 11 1 12 1.63 Craig Osborne 7 21 8 3 11 1.52 Darren Carr 1 3 1 1 2 1.33 Sam Boon 6 15 4 0 4 1.07 Lawrence Fielding 3 8 2 0 2 1.00 Rachel Hellowell 3 9 1 0 1 0.44 Stephanie Whitlock 1 3 0 0 0 0.00

No more double headers according to this week's Speedway Star. Remaining home matches likely to be on Tuesdays.