IronScorpion 1,407 Posted November 5, 2022 2 minutes ago, Fromafar said: Problem was most track were having “free weeks” to accommodate their riders being unavailable.That needs to be addressed Yes, some riders were taking "holiday" breaks but even with riders being unavailable or injured our dreaded evil of guests is used which we will not get away from. Where teams refused to ride on alternative nights because of too many riders unavailable/injured needs addressing. We all would like to see "our" team racing most weeks but know it is almost impossible & I would think this last year, throughout each week had 8+ guests in. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fromafar 10,377 Posted November 5, 2022 (edited) 13 minutes ago, IronScorpion said: Yes, some riders were taking "holiday" breaks but even with riders being unavailable or injured our dreaded evil of guests is used which we will not get away from. Where teams refused to ride on alternative nights because of too many riders unavailable/injured needs addressing. We all would like to see "our" team racing most weeks but know it is almost impossible & I would think this last year, throughout each week had 8+ guests in. I do think the alternative racenight has to be use more ( I know some teams have a limit to the number of times) especially in rain off situations.Unfortunately guests will always be a necessary evil with the situation. Edited November 5, 2022 by Fromafar Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lisa-colette 6,035 Posted November 5, 2022 58 minutes ago, Skidder1 said: It doesn;t say 'No play-offs' as others have already pointed out! The structure of playoffs, along with KO Cup, points limits etc will be announced after the AGM later this month. Hopefully it will be top 4 in Champ and top 3 in Prem as it should be hard to get into. Not having teams in it who finish mid table. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HGould 2,213 Posted November 5, 2022 Anything that stops or limits guarantees has to be a positive. Both heat leaders on 4 figure sums and reserves on 4 point guarantees. A few riders are clearly not on guarantees this season who may have been in the past with a resultant improvement on consistency. One aspect of 2 times home and away, which I agree with 100% is what does it mean for NDL at clubs who run 2 teams. Some can run double headers (not popular with fans) some can't, will it make at least some Clubs pull out of NDL. Hopefully we get a 40 point limit a logic to run A fixtures then B fixtures with A scheduled to finish by end of June and B sometime in August. Icing on the cake for me would be an aggregate bonus point for A and B fixtures to keep excitement going all season. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gambo 1,341 Posted November 5, 2022 Maybe a points restriction to force a share out the Heat Leaders? (e.g. max 2 riders over 'x' points?) 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ch958 2,395 Posted November 5, 2022 4 minutes ago, Gambo said: Maybe a points restriction to force a share out the Heat Leaders? (e.g. max 2 riders over 'x' points?) I like the continental way - graded riders a,b,c,d whatever system is used the rich glory crazed clubs will chuck money at it Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wee Eck 703 Posted November 5, 2022 41 minutes ago, ch958 said: I like the continental way - graded riders a,b,c,d whatever system is used the rich glory crazed clubs will chuck money at it Who are the “rich glory crazed clubs” that “will chuck money at it” in your view? I can only think of one for sure in each league. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Neila 1,162 Posted November 5, 2022 24 minutes ago, Wee Eck said: Who are the “rich glory crazed clubs” that “will chuck money at it” in your view? I can only think of one for sure in each league. I can think of 2 one splashes the cash and has an empty trophy cabinet, the other has a full cabinet !! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
szkocjasid 3,044 Posted November 5, 2022 2 hours ago, iainb said: I can see why they think twice home and away will extend the league programme beyond mid July/August... but they couldn't complete once home and away and 5 play off ties in one of the driest summer's on record... only in Speedway would they think this is the solution. The ONLY way it is going to work is of they get away from this ridiculous idea that rained off meetings HAVE to be restaged, they don't in Cricket, they shouldn't in Speedway. Four issues with that, 1) season ticket holders lose out of matches not restaged. 2) how do they work out the match result, clubs could cancel meetings / say track it too dangerous depending on opposition, 3) riders miss out on matches & lose money, 4) clubs like Birmingham have to race so many fixtures in rent agreement Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ch958 2,395 Posted November 5, 2022 25 minutes ago, Wee Eck said: Who are the “rich glory crazed clubs” that “will chuck money at it” in your view? I can only think of one for sure in each league. I'm not getting involved it that discussion but I would say there's more than 1 in each league Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jaizer 2,864 Posted November 5, 2022 29 minutes ago, ch958 said: I'm not getting involved it that discussion but I would say there's more than 1 in each league You started the discussion Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JCookie 753 Posted November 5, 2022 32 meetings + potentially another 4 for the playoffs + whatever else they come up with. That's not even considering those who have NL clubs. In a country that couldn't finish a season until November 4th (not including the Jubilee Trophy). If it was the first time then you'd give BSPL a pass for being optimistic and ambitious. Seeing as it isn't, they're just plain stupid. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iainb 5,024 Posted November 5, 2022 37 minutes ago, szkocjasid said: Four issues with that, 1) season ticket holders lose out of matches not restaged. 2) how do they work out the match result, clubs could cancel meetings / say track it too dangerous depending on opposition, 3) riders miss out on matches & lose money, 4) clubs like Birmingham have to race so many fixtures in rent agreement 1) Not really an issue, refund ticket holders, offer transfer to next year or even structure the season ticket in a different way, maybe membership that gets you discounts etc... Cricket must have a similar issue, how do they model their season tickets? 2) 1 point each, only a Referee can call a match off while they are in attendance any call off prior is done by the SCB. 3) Riders and clubs will be more willing to get matches on 4) They run filler fixtures after the League programme to fulfil any obligations, the League must not be held up because of 1 club Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Trees 2,814 Posted November 5, 2022 3 hours ago, Fromafar said: Problem was most track were having “free weeks” to accommodate their riders being unavailable.That needs to be addressed Almost impossible, we are at the bottom of the pecking order ..... 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ch958 2,395 Posted November 5, 2022 47 minutes ago, Jaizer said: You started the discussion Yes but I didn't name names and I don't want the aggro if I do. I'm sure most understand what I mean Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
