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All this stuff is in the past, it's the future we should be worrying about.

I would argue that Częstochowa have on paper a stronger team than leszno and both Częstochowa reserves are better than slauderbach, the problem is Częstochowa are badly under performing, who is the better rider Doyle or Lidsey ? You would have said Doyle at the start of season but lidsey has out performed Doyle, that’s not the league’s fault, infact lidsey who wasn’t even put in the team at the start of the year has out performed every Częstochowa rider apart from madsen

I'm not Ford's biggest fan and certainly don't agree with some of the suspect antics he's carried out over the years, BUT he's now doing everything he can to save Poole Speedway. So no matter who you are or what you think give the guy some credit. Losing our beloved team would be a huge loss, not only to me personally but to UK speedway. We've lost enough teams in recent years for goodness sake!!

I bet you’re fun at parties. Change the record

It's the Speedway equivalent of Football's "I'd like to see him do that away at Stoke City on a cold Tuesday night in December"...

That’s Shovler for you, unless he has ridden for Poole he is no good.

The good thing is that Ford will work very hard to try and ensure the Pirates survive otherwise any hope that one day he can sell them (might be a long shot anyway these days) will be gone

Do you really think he will even be riding round Monmore in a couple of seasons!!! Poland and world speedway is all about fast starting and fast bikes these days .IMO

That’s cause they perform, they took a gamble with lidsey which paid off, kolodziej is past his best but still performs, slauderbach is not one of the top reserves, smektala could of struggled when he left the reserve berth, a lot of ifs there but they have all worked, Częstochowa have lindgren and Doyle who have both underperformed badly

Unless it’s Poole,it’s always a dull meeting for Shovler.

Knowing how this night has gone for Czestochowa. Leszno will probably get a 5-1 in the re-run

No. Not saying that just saying you cannot discount him. Particularly when comparing him to Ivan you have to take into account that Ronnie had been a top world class rider for some 15-16 years before Ian won his first World Final. For me the best three ever riders have been Fundin, Mauger and Rickardsson. But Ronnie absolutely deserves his place among the legends.

Absolutely no way could you discount Ronnie Moore. If anything he was the most consistent of the “big five” not just meeting to meeting but race to race. Also remember he started a bit before the others so might very well have had 2-3 titles before Fundin, Craven and Briggs really got started at top world level. And he didn’t have things easy before either with the likes of Jack Young around. These discussions are always so enjoyable.

13+1 in his first ever Swedish league match ....

Some positive news about Peter. Initially unconscious but regained consciousness He has full movement and can feel his arms and legs.

There have been pandemics before, and there has been planning for them - for many years in fact. But for some reason this time, governments are taking panicky knee-jerk reactions to every development, even though these are in many cases entirely predictable. And the UK government has been amongst the worst for its inconsistency.

We've not had Covid before. Every government is making it up as they go along.

Was reading the excellent Hans Nielsen thread and how he would have done well in a GP world (which I would agree with). Then I got thinking about Ivan and how he would have done if the GP system had started , say , in 1968. I wonder if Ivan would have been World Champ in 68,69,70, 71 ,72 right thru till about 78. One exception, I seem to remember that Anders MIchanek in the year before he actually became Champ in 1974 was winning everything. So maybe Anders could have been a GP champ in 1973.. Not sure Ole could have ever won under a GP system-what say other forumlanders. Again to all- I really enjoy the threads that are posted here-brings back many memories.

Artem can throw in the odd crap race when the going gets tough IMo.Riding well though.

Bet 365 have Vaculik at 11/1 currently. Laguta at 14/1 is tempting too...

No. It has been a proper borefest from heat one. Not one race where I thought, that was good! Rubbish meeting.

Keep calm Steve, save yourself for Brexit posts!!! As you know, some folk say walkover racing like these constitute excellent meetings

See plenty of the same over here.Its not great ,you will be telling me that Lidsey is crap and gifted all his points as usual no doubt.

If 6 behind, they can use it as many times as they like, but only 1 extra ride for a rider. Same 6 points for U21 to replace U21.

Gates went up uneven there???

His 'sudden rise' after so many years of average riding is being mirrored by his 'sudden demise'... Strange, ,

Shocking decision there. Pawlicki should have been allowed to go but got pulled back. Przedpelski did worse & got away with it. Maybe they want to keep the match close lol

Lindgren and Doyle are very hit or miss this season .For whatever reasons

As the Council leader said today in her weekly Q&A on facebook - Stadia UK still have a 'longish' lease on the stadium but if a developer were to come along with a properly funded scheme to develop the site, to include a new or revamped stadium, then the Council would consider it as part of the usual planning process. There is no scheme currently on the books and there is currently no intention to lose the stadium facility which belongs to the people of Poole!'

I don't think you could discount Knutson or Plechanov in the sixties...

Ronnie Moore won the world title in 1959 with a 15 point maximum. Barry Briggs only competed in the final and three other individual events on British tracks that season, scoring 38 points at an average of 9.5 out of 15 per meeting. Ronnie competed in 19 events, winning three and scoring 206 points at an average of 10.84. Peter Craven won 9 out of 21 meetings, scoring 275 points at an average of 13.10. He couldn't match Ove Fundin, who was first or first equal in 10 out of 16 meetings, scoring 223 points at an average of 13.94. This could have been better but for an exclusion in one meeting where he won his other 4 races.

Probably true. However, if Mark Loram had won a one-off final I'm sure many people would have said that he wouldn't have won under the Grand Prix system.

He is, as he is wrong and proven so without a single element of doubt. Or perhaps he knows more than the CDC (Centre for Disease Control and Prevention), ONS (Office of National Statistics), WHO (World Health Organsiation) and every single other medical organisation in the world who state they are transmitted in the same way.

I remember that feature, Steve, I'll have to dig it out. Having said that, it is just opinion. I think Ivan would have probably bagged more titles in the early 70's, but that would be counterbalanced by possibly not winning in '77 and'79? But who knows, riders tailored their approach to the format that was in place at the time and we'll never know how it would have looked under a GP system.

New team jackets being held over for the start of 2021. Mine's on order.

Interesting comments looking through that old thread, such as how Colston was slave trader but nobody objects to him in Bristol and how nobody minds there being a sports team in the USA called "The Redskins". Both those issues have come to light lately.

As people say, Ivan and Hans would probably have dominated in a Grand Prix series when at their peak. To expect them to win every year is probably still pushing things a bit htough. Erik Gundersen certainly had the World Championship mentality. And riders like Olsen, Collins and, as stated, Michanek were definitely worthy World Champions. Also, if ther had been a Grand Prix in place in the 1970s, Tommy Jansson wouldn't have been riding in a World Championship qualifier on 20 May 1976.

Personally i honestly think he has a hard task ahead of him .and that is last thing we want to see is our team disappear.

Report from Team Ljung says that most things are under control after a few hours of check ups at the hospital. Earlier reports said that he suffered a severe concussion.

Probably true, indeed one well known national journalist said on radio the other day that he was shocked that almost no one is challenging the government and the policies. In fact the opposition agree with them, just not the way they are implemented. Democracy died a long time ago.

The email address to request any information regarding refunds on season tickets or any other information regarding tickets etc is Info@newcastle-speedway.co.uk This email address has been given out numerous times on press releases by the club and nobody should have any issues in contacting any of the promotion/management as we are all readily available to speak to. It would be appreciated if third parties would not try to relay false information or information that hasn't been confirmed officially by the club as this just causes unnecessary histeria and headaches that are not needed at this difficult time.

Just to clarify my subscription allowed me to watch live any of tonight`s 4 matches and to watch the other 3 at any other time i want- as Rob says great value !!

Ljung charged under him and took his line. Rightly excluded.

and you have proved that your opinion is worthless

400 km Long distance travellers... :lol:

If he can learn anything from Lewis Kerr it will be resilience and mental toughness, the way he has bounced back[ no pun intended ] from some very big get offs. Shows he has them in abundance.

Nearly 50K deaths so far, and you think that it is not deadly. imagine the real death figure if we were told to ignore it and let it run its course.

F1 has been classified as "Elite" though... Speedway (Domestic at least) has not. It makes me smile when people say Do whatever it is next year... unfortunately there's no guarantee that we'll be in any different situation by this time next year.

Black Lives Matter should have been All Lives Matter, everyone is equal.

Yes I started this thread 5 years ago!