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Lower back pain. I’m waiting on news

Good luck to Adam Ellis

Agreed, there's a few on here....

Wouldn't September/October of 2020 be the perfect time to organise an outgoing tour for a Great Britain or England team to race on the Continent (France, Germany, Czech Republic)? It would be a great opportunity for some of the currently inactive British riders to race and represent their national team and provide an attraction for some of the lesser speedeway nations here on the continent to ride against England/Great Britain. Could the BSPA / Speedway GB organise something similar to what they did earlier this year with the GB Team riding against Australia in Perth, W.A.?

You're right Bobbath that short film evokes many memories, I'm a couple of years older but my first memory of speedway was being taken to Brandon in 55 as a treat for passing a scholarship exam and because a lad who rode for the Bees worked with my old man, and I met a few of the riders before and after the match. I haven't got a clue as to who the match was against, but it was an introduction to a mad world of bikes, noise and intoxicating fumes, and then endeavouring to save enough pocket money to get to Brandon as often as possible. One thing I've never forgotten on match nights is dashing to Pool Meadow to catch one of a steady stream of buses that seemed to leave every few minutes and when we left Brandon they would all be lined up in the car park to get us home. I think that definitely Gemini will be the current forumlander who actually started going to speedway the earliest in the forties I believe over seventy years ago. I suppose as kids then we never realised how skint our families were, we never had a car in the family then. My dads transport was a pushbike to get to work, which eventually became a James 98 succeeded by a Lambretta. Our first TV was 1953 for the Cup Final. That was a real day to remember. But the clothing really brought back how hard up we were and how my older brothers clothes were saved for me after he grew out of them and then they were reincarnated for me, plus socks that had been darned so much there was hardly any of the original sock left. But we got by and never knew anything better and accepted what we got. Where I grew up we were surrounded by bombsites until way into the sixties. Many days for breakfast when I was a kid it was a plate of hot melted dripping and big chunks of bread to soak up the fat and tomato ketchup or HP to add some flavour. It was cheap and filling and kept me going till I got back from school when delicious dripping on toast would plonked hot and fresh in front of me, it's a snack I have tried many times to replicate but never managed to get it right, its got to be matured dripping for flavour. Every kitchen in our family always seemed to have a bowl of dripping at the ready. Like these days where we have become educated again to queue for everything outside shops and the doctors and the chemists, you took what you got and never grumbled because we knew nothing better. My dad was a racing fan and occasionally we'd go to the races if he'd had a good win, and on my first visit to Glorious Goodwood in I think 56 I came to realise how real the class structure was in horse racing and in this country when my old man explained to me that we could only go in the cheapest enclosure well away from the best viewing area because the toffs were in the stands. Time I got some breakfast and stopped rambling, now it's fruit and cereals, not bread and fat. Mind as the Chancellor wants to reduce our pensions maybe we'll have to go back to fatted bred for breakfast.

Zagar fine, the swede fine as he is exciting but KK. Nooooo

The Polish 'Bomber'.... Crump, Zagar, Kasprzak.. Riders who truly would 'howl' into the tight bends at Kirky Lane faster than anyone else I ever saw.. Yet KK the night after could ride like it was his first week on a Speedway bike. . A superb rider when he feels like it.. A dreadful one when he doesn't. . Not sure I've ever seen a rider with such a huge differential margin of capability depending on how he feels mentally on any given night..

It's probably a good case for holding the challenge after the SGP has been completed

Glad to see Berntzon make it, he's shown promise for a few years now without making a breakthrough. Hopefully it'll be a boost for Swedish Speedway

Balls, Adam not had much luck this evening. Did well to get off the bike as quickly as he did. Not disgraced himself at all tonight. Decent effort.

Would like to see Berntzon and Loktaev make it personally. 2 new faces

The enigma that is KK

Whatever anyone's thoughts about KK in the GP's. No-one can question his desire to get back. Completely boarded Fricke.

Hope so I bet on him at 150-1 and got him each way too

You thought, "thistle be fun"?

It seems that all is not well on the Polish speedway front and after many years of hearing how good it is, with the exception of one or two races and riders, it is pretty bland and possibly a missed opportunity to showcase the sport and themselves to the world which thus far has be relatively deprived of good racing with so many countries unable to hold professional meetings. Maybe speedway UK should focus on its own product for next year, race on days that suit the tracks and build teams around riders who commit to British speedway first and foremost. If the standard falls so be it but it can be rebuilt if you give the riders a chance to race week in week out in the UK. It cannot be any worse than what is currently on offer.

Yeah I noticed that Lidsey was having a good look behind him, but they do that in most sports now. You may get some nutter running on to the pitch during a football match and they point the camera into the crowd, with the commentator saying, "we don't want to see that," and I'm thinking "yes we do!"

6pm Uk time

Thank you , thank you, and thank you for posting this film. I followed the link and watched it a couple of times. It had an impact on me way beyond speedway- I was 6 years old in 1952 (a year older than Norbold I might add.) and it was great to see the spectators-how they looked , what they wore etc. ( think most of those spectators will have passed away by now).Just as I remembered.Everyone looked happy enough although life in UK was not maybe that great in 1952 (at least in our material terms) I remember seeing coaches like the ones the Motherwell fans descended from.. Great to see the huge attendances and some people with those wooden rattles which have long since gone. I have done my best to try and figure out the riders- here's what I came up with. In the Motherwell team picture I think I recognise on the far left Gordon McGregor and next to him Bluey Scott (both of whom I saw ride in the sixties). On the Edinburgh photo I recognised Dick Campbell and Don Cuppleditch (the tall guy), I certainly recognised Jack Young -(what was he doing there?) maybe he was a guest riding in the long lost rider of the night second half races (what happened to them)?? Also were there some riders in Glasgow(Ashfield) Giants colours? Anybody know who the guys signing autographs were?? Interesting to see the male spectators smoking and the ladies wearing head scarves, I remember all this.. I looked up the results for 1952 and see Edinburgh won both home matches against the Eagles 46-38 and 45-39., however much closer games at Motherwell 41-40 to the Eagles and a 42-42 draw. Can anybody help with identifications- Stan Bradbury who did so much for speedway in Canada was riding that year for Motherwell but couldn't pick him out. Were any forumlanders attending speedway in 1952 after all it is 68 years ago?? If so what sort of refreshments being served then- perhaps tea and meat pies or ham sarnies-do you think burgers and hotdogs were around or did they come later?? Were we happier then?-I don't know-we certainly never felt poor although I recall one xmas when my parents could not really afford presents- I got a hankie with a cowboy motif and a Dinky Car. Also and this is going way back-chicken was a luxury, very expensive, (before battery farming I guess) and we would get it once a year at xmas-this was the early fifties-turkey came later. Also great strides in health care have been made since then. Also then there was no central heating for people like me and chilblains occurred-never hear of them now!! Anyway wonderful memories generated by posting the link to this film-anybody care to share memories of that era?

Is that where Moley lIves that used to work Kelvin's Moleycam camera... Edit: Just been informed it's his East European cousin. .. 'Poley'.... I'll get me coat. .

Tony was always developing equipment usually based on agriculture machine equipment. He was an engineer that worked on farming equipment as a living. He used to try things out at Newcastle such as fine sprayers behind a tractor instead go water dripping down, spraying equipment with the long arms out. He wasn't for deep lumpy tracks, but smooth tracks moist on the top, from a good and regular watering. Did the same for Hull and Worky and Redcar.

I thought there was quite a few passes, better than most polish league I've seen.

Yes, twins maybe. Met them in Riga.

The 4th place is not automatically selected anymore. The FIM put in another wildcard

You must be a very poor man

Very disappointing to see Grigory Laguta's performance tonight. He would have been such an exciting addition to the series. Gorican is a bit of a crap track, this meeting should have been held at Torun or Gorzow.

Deserves it tonight, but the quality of the opposition is poor.

KK back in the GP's.

Lindbaeck needs some competition to shore up the bottom end of a GP

Every dog has his day. Fricke has been lucky to keep his team place in Poland.

I’ve gradually been falling out with the GP’s over the last year or two and the result of this meeting doesn’t look like it will be helping with that at all.

Hats off to KK, that was a fantastic and ballsy ride.

Yeah, it's painful. Normally I don't watch the feeds, but I'm interested in this so I'm trying but it's not easy. A couple of times I've been just about ready to give up and one of them has come back but I'm not sure I'll get o the end.

Another russian stream: https://vk.com/14shestakov?z=video-81427162_456239065

https://live.baansportfansite.nl/event/423/fim-speedway-grand-prix-world-championship-challenge-gorican.html

https://sportowefakty.wp.pl/zuzel/relacja/105348/grand-prix-challenge-w-gorican

Try the one above on https://m.vk.com/video-53550004_456240690?list=6e617d4ebe3815c6a2

Freestreams is decent picture for me. there is a problem that the regular people like Drhtv and Maniak don`t realise yet that the meeting is on Eleven and therefore not showing at the moment.

He's a strange one for me because whenever I watch him I just can't see anything special... You can't argue with his results though. Didn't he start in Poland before coming to the UK?

Found this on sportowefakty .... From Monday, it was not me who prepared the track, but the track master and the president, who boasted a lot of work in social media. I regret what happened because Włókniarz is my club with which I have been associated since I was 16. I want to scream because now I may have to work abroad again or quit my coach job at all. I gave my notice of termination on Friday at 8am because I couldn't take responsibility for the track that I wasn't preparing. It was a deliberate decision and some people already knew about it on Thursday. It hurts me that through Włókniarz we have witnessed the anti-advertising of speedway - said Włókniarz's coach, Marek Cieślak, after the match. Copy it because the moderator will probably remove it soon

Slightly disappointing that Britain seems to have been forgotten about with reference to how we will watch the Challenge !! Links to Polish TV coverage- more to follow http://freestreams-live1.com/eleven-sports-1-poland/ https://daddylive.live/channels/stream-71.php

And the results of the two matches First Match in the final was GB v ROW

Saw this pic on twitter. Tweet said The inhabitants of Gorzów have proof that flooding the track in Częstochowa is a big fake. At eight o'clock in the morning the surface was muddy and the grasslands were dry. As evidence, a hole was dug in the turf. I wonder what the PGE Ekstraliga authorities will do with it. We are facing a major scandal

When will the sides for this be announced , I was there with my dad for the last meeting which Jordan Palin won , unfortunately I’m away with it been bank holiday but please stop all the moaning the price . My dad is an OAP and I’ve purchased him a ticket for the next event , So let’s get the bullrubbish out the way by lining Rob Godfrey pockets you must all be stupid there will be better riders on show than the last meeting and Rob is prepared to put meetings on under the guidelines set out by councils , government etc so let’s back Scunthorpe as all the moaners will possibly get there way when it’s defunct . Simple fact support your local track or it might be lost forever Sorry Rant over

Please enlighten me as to which four currently practice on a 500 I’m intrigued to know as from what I understand only one is old enough to ride a 500 at the beginning of next year in any form of competition . Two don’t turn 14 until late June early July and the other 2 only turn 13 next year. And I’m sure your sponsored rider is very appreciative of your help and I do agree the sport does need to be run independently. also could you point me in the direction of a meeting that this has been done before at in this country where kids are in the team and racing in the main meeting and not as a second half slot. You could be right but I would like to see who was riding and in what form. Also the meetings Leon did on his 250 i believe involved 500cc riders in the same race that isn’t happening at scunthorpe

I have always considered that 80% of a decent wedge was far better than 100% of bugger all

Glad you will not be there so I do not have to see your miserable face & spouting "doom" from all angles.

This is why you can't go to speedway (or other sports). Less than two people per hospital in England. As for admissions.. that's now ONE every FOUR weeks per hospital. Pandemic!!

Cleveland Park was located almost partly under the flyover on the south side of the water . I remember as a child seeing on a few occasions car's pulling up on the exit of the flyover to have a quick watch of a heat or two before the Copper's turned up to move them on lol. If you look for it now it's five-a-side football pitches ( the cage type).

DOUBT whether that is true. Without Terry Russell's initial efforts there would have been no Sky deal in the first place. He was entitled to commission then, as would anyone who brought in millions. It was Terry who kept the deal going and the promoters were happy to continuing paying commission. It was only when certain parties thought they could do better without Terry that the Sky deal started to falll out of bed.