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On here to Litterally only be a wind up behind a fake username to try and be little Plymouth and in the end you’ve just casted more spotlight on what a great call Plymouth made. great call Plymouth and top work for saving people a pointless journey.

Personally I think the scoring system is one of the few things our governing body has got right in recent years, I really like it although they spoiled it slightly by giving home teams three points for any win. I can see the appeal of the BP system but think the 3-2-1-0-1-2-3-4 is (was) better.

quite agree you got one of the best managers in the game. and the worst set of luck any team can have in one season

It's not the commentators that are the problem. Sure, we miss a true professional like Nigel was, but Kelvin and Chris can just about pull it off. The problem is the lack of presentation between heats. With Sky and BT we had a studio to cut to, and some for of discussion to break up the programme a bit. This is what is now lacking, and we are missing someone like Natalie in the studio. What is the worst thing about speedway? It's the tractor going round between races. What do we see on dear old Eurosport? We see the tractor going round, and Kelvin and Chris desperately trying to keep things going - sometimes, as was the case on Saturday, for long periods. When you are at the stadium, you can kill the time as you are part of an event. On the telly, it needs something else to keep the program going. This is Eurosport I'm afraid. It's just not in the same league as Sky and BT and it never has been.

Bellers just take the ers off of that and replace it with end and we get you,it’s raining in Plymouth now and forecast for very heavy all day as for the guests you absolute tool worrall, Castagna and Howarth were guesting Pipe down,and wind your neck in I don’t think I have ever seen such a more appropriate username as yours.

Plymouth are a breath of fresh air to British speedway

No need for that. I saw your post last night and thought it wouldn’t age well not least because, citing the weather at the marina at the time, it was clear you didn’t understand the concept of a weather FOREcast. That said, in the name of cordiality I didn’t berate you as you have done to Mike. Anyway, given you do understand the concept of a weather ACTUALcast, I can confirm that it’s raining.

Enough of the snooker puns, time to give it a rest.

I think the Winner will benefit most from the aggregate points return. Wots the 'proposed' doing in there? And if those 3 club's are 'dictating' how the Championship is run then they are leading the way in showing professionalism & there's nothing wrong in that. That isn't to say that other club's are not being run professionally it's just that I'm trying to figure out ur cryptic message.

Stream announced https://www.tapesup.tv/ £15 Commentary by Dave Rowe.

A 10 ton truck couldn’t drag you now

Really? You have to ask? He went to school in Walker... nuff said...

Can you please remove this post. Mr Carter was not married to this person. It is in extremely bad taste to say things like this on a public forum. Please have empathy and respect for people who have autism and special needs. And respect for her family.

Speedway a team sport that doesn't have tactics or any true meaning of a team sport just a band of riders who pull on a teams race jacket a couple of times a week before riding for someone else the next night.

I should imagine it will be big crowds at each leg of the final. Great decision from the BSPA. Be lucky to get 800 at Sheffield. Will be 2000+ at each venue in the final.

I guess you’ll be apologising now ?

And it’s raining hard in Plymouth you absolute melt your a laughing stock you tool

Having had a few days to reflect, what an absolute shower of $hite. Cardiff is a great social occasion but what was served up in the stadium was absolutely dire compared to past years. No pre event entertainment? they've had bands, singers, tribute acts and all sorts in the stadium before. The Viking Clap was a massive embarrassment , Amarillo played twice and announced as the first time was poor, nothing for Nigel when they had hours to kill during track grading, the painful legends section where they should have all been sent out together instead of filling 15 mins with it, 2 interviews with Top Gears Chris Harris where he said exactly the same, Ellis announced at the tapes after he'd been on the big screen pulling out of the meeting. That's with out the suicidal track and the booing of Leon for pointing it out and the list goes on....... If this is meant to be an improved product I'd like to no how. 20k crowd at the most and doubt it will be bigger in 2023, we are definitely no longer the flagship GP. As they say in Dragon's Den for 2023 "I'm Out" better off having friends round for a bbq and trying to bear watching it on the tv.

I was hooked form the very first meeting that I attended...everything about it! Standing on the terraces with fellow enthusiats and chewing the fact/arguing made it a great night out! Never bothered me personally the gaps between races...that's when we all became an 'expert' Team Manager! Don't go along with gimmicks which is what the general public with their short attention span now seem to expect. I attended two American Football matches at Wembley and I found all the razzmatazz all a bit tedious and it struck me that was what the fans were more interested in. The Mexican Wave was in vogue then and the spectators appeared to take more notice of that rather than what taking place on the pitch. Speedway when presented right takes some beating but, alas, those in control thru' years of mismanagement have allowed it become a pale shadow of its former glorious self!

In Plymouth and dry as a bone you prick!

You may say it's a POINTLESS meeting but at least the promotion are trying to keep it going unlike us at Newcastle

Having the BBC on your side helps, if we were talking women's or transgender speedway, they'd be on it like a shot!

Absolute farce. Redcar should be awarded the points! Not sure Plymouth should be a CH side next season the way they've approached the sport this year!!!!

For me the return of the bonus point is a good idea. But for they should do away with the nice try point, the one that awards a point if the away team loses by 6 points or less. Whoever heard of a sport where you are rewarded for losing. For me it has to be; 3 points for a win 2 points for a away draw 1 point for home draw. 0 points for a loss

I just read a post from speedway GB about have a poll about changing the league scoring system for 2023, good god we are facing the end of professional speedway in the uk and they have ideas like this , I give up

They had only booked the stadium till Tuesday....

Just back from Cardiff. I have done every Cardiff GP but this will be my last. Cardiff has become too difficult, too expensive with little given back. Whether its getting there, hotels, buying tickets, downloading tickets ,ticket apps etc, all that hassle to be rewarded with an awful track producing an awful GP. And guess what my ticket app would not load when I got to the gate. Had to pay a visit to the ticket office with a lot of tetchy people with the same problem. Discovery have taken the GP back 20 years, 20 years ago we had a 30 thousand crowd and an unfit track dito 2022. When will they stop making mistakes ,SON in the same country comes to mind, BSI learned that lesson years ago. For me the Cardiff GP has run its course, maybe with a sub 30 thousand crowd it has also run its natural course anyway, how do they expect to sell tickets for next year on the back of what we have seen this year, they won't be getting my money I'd be surprised if they are making any money on this event with the costs involved, can't see discovery sucking this up for ever. Over and out

I have often wondered tbf

No! Application denied

It'll all depend on whether Danny can get across the swollen Ford and drain out the middle ditch on the first bend... 90% chance that the place will be flooded and off. Bellend will blow his top, should have been called off on Monday so he coukd have gone home from Cardiff

Chugunov is NOT Russian- how many more times must it be said.- Laguta is Russian

All it needs now is them to confirm we are running next season which the main sponsor is saying to anyone that will listen and that they are saving money to build a team to have another go at the title. The silence helps nobody

Oh right, haven't heard of that one before! Hard to predict where thunderstorms are going to hit i guess! This morning the met office had a 'thunder shower' at midday tomorrow but have taken it off for now.

Speedway always has been and always will be a great sport for a newbie. You can't fail to be impressed by the skill and bravery of the riders, the noise, the smell, the sheer spectacle of it all... it's only when you scratch the surface that (especially now in Britain) it doesn't really stand up to scrutiny. Some folk will realise "it's all about the start", some will make it a bit further and say "it's all about the first bend"... then you only have to attend a few fiascos, go home covered in dust, realise that your rider is riding for every other Tom, Dick and Harry and you're out

With Greg Hancock I believe.

Whilst I wouldn’t argue with most of your points if you went to a Cardiff GP speedway meeting and booked into a ‘ quiet zone ‘ I’m not sure you attended the right sport.

Oh jeez, ere we go again! Are Exeter thinking of coming back then coz I can't think of any other reason to bring BP back! If BP does come back Pirates will av to put the Waves back into Wimborne Road!

Rugby and cricket.

I think we can safely say its not Alex Brady that Lewis Kerr had a problem with as they were pictured together over the weekend at Oxford/Cardiff.

So let's hope the core age group of British Speedway fans (55+?) have all got twitter accounts.

First meeting I’ve been to since 2019 and first meeting since my club Somerset closed. Dreadful waste of money. “Racing” consisted of about three or four decent heats the rest strung out. Thank goodness Wrighty missed the gate a few times. Nicholls and Summers for a home pair were embarrassing. Only beat two reserves from Plymouth. I know there were injuries, but come on , surely the teams could have put on a better show than that.When I think of some of the great Pairs meets we used to have at the OTA, pre Cardiff, it makes you fear for the future of speedway. The next day carried onto Cardiff, and another crock of crap. Thank goodness for Dan and a few others. I will certainly not be doing the GP next year along with all the others who didn’t show up. £65 for a seat in the quiet zone and there was two bell ends on the klaxons the whole meeting, pathetic. oh and £7.20 for a hot dog , no thanks.

Watching a lot of "old stuff" on YT it is noticeable how the riders would often "free wheel" into the turns and then put the power on when into the bend and bring the back wheel around.. Similar to the way grasstrack racers do... I presume it was down to the deep cinders...? Lots of races were won by riders passing others who were "hopping" around after hitting a deep part of the track.... And they used throttle control to control the bikes reaction... It also meant plenty of entertainment for those watching... Some of the races on Saturday had riders showing this "old school" style, but the likes of Bewley and Zmarzlik kept full on the gas and definitely got advantage for it... Those brought up on GB tracks like Bewley, Doyle and Holder certainly seemed better equipped to deal with the problems (even though Doyle kept falling off)... Which probably says something about GB track preparation... Zmarzlik is obviously just a once in a generation world class rider who is fearless and can ride anything. ..

Crump was the biggest moaner known to man on the GP circuit in his era. He was endlessly at Ole Olsen to have tracks ultra slick to suit him and him only, and always had to have the loudest voice. No way would he have ridden that track 15 years ago, he would have lead a rider walkout or tried to. Amazing how he sees himself now with that comment.

And to think people get hoodwinked into paying a fortune for the shambles that was Cardiff 2022.

For all of us I'd say.

It's laughable tht ppl think u should be riding in Britain to ride in national championships. Bring the best of brits in if any1 beats them good on them

Some of the comments on here are extraordinary. Cardiff is not just about the racing and neither was Wembley which rarely produced racing to remember as other posters have highlighted. The occasions however were fantastic but Cardiff, a track smack in the middle of a vibrant modern European city, is even better. Cardiff has grown into an event on its own, quite separate from the domestic scene and for most people its a fantastic day out and its evolved into something quite special. Thats actually fairly obvious. Stepping out of Belle Vue into the evening sunshine of Gorton just isn't going to be the same. There isn't even a pub that close. The status of the GP would be diminished although I agree it would be nice to have BV for a 2nd GP. If you don't buy into the idea of Cardiff as an event, an occasion, then you are missing the point of Cardiff. Although the crowd may have been down this year, it is still by far the biggest crowd pulling event in British speedway.

Oxford has been huge success story ,just hope the Mickey Mouse approach to the sport doesn’t creep in to the new or recently returned fans.Level of support at most other tracks are just holding there own IMO.Paying Batchelor to pop wheelies when last won’t win the fans over.

Be a different story had we had Kurtz. You got lucky.

What an opportunity to show the people of Peterborough that the sport is worth keeping in the area... What better than to get a chance to massively promote a BHM so they can deliver themselves a huge crowd...?