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There is NO NEED to sort out the League Winners There IS a need to sort out or abandon the Play Off fiasco before 31 October otherwise the winners of that can't be declared. The League Table doesn't lie CHAMPIONS - Leicester RUNNERS UP - Glasgow

I’m sure Plymouth’s already announced him? First signing in the league?

It's obviously comedy hour again. Must have missed the memo!

Eddie is hoping to be fit for next season

Chris Harris has always had a warm welcome at Poole, I've never heard Poole supporter's boo him

Not upset in the slightest if you bothered to look it was another poster. But don't let that get in the way of facts.

Its hardly a badge of honour being better than Leicester!! Both tracks are rubbish

Let's hope those line ups stay the same until 7:45 tomorrow night.

Other than major wholesale changes (which will never happen) the chances of attracting those fans who have drifted away, back to the fold are next to zero. The sports controllers have brought the problems on themselves and the riders look after number one and sometimes dictate whether a meeting will go ahead. The fans are bottom of the pile when it comes to being part of any thought process in terms of it being value for money or providing entertainment so that the punters go away wanting more. Where else would you maintain a scenario of having seven man teams but rarely race with seven, more like six and Mr R/R. They cannot even complete the fixtures. You have several months to fulfil the meetings but yet again here it is October and the options for completing fixtures are getting fewer thanks to the weather or the non availability of stadia and probably the doubling up which meant some meetings could not take place earlier in the season because of rider availability. The current business model does not work and those with disposal income who have been going to meetings for many years have decided it is just not worth it and over the years the promoters have failed to make it an attractive form of entertainment for a younger generation. Get rid of the BSPL and start again on an amateur basis with a five year plan to rebuild the rider base. Some stadia will fall by the wayside but it would happen anyway with the current set up and with very few if any local authorities interested in having a track on their door step the chances of new tracks appearing is fairly low. To sum up, the BSPL would have you believe the sport is in good shape. How many fans believe that one?

Yes it is. I had to use this option on Glasgow streams as it seems there weren't permissions to cast. I've only got a basic cheapy phone and it couldn't cope so I had to use my wife's top end phone and even then it wasn't ideal. The beauty of using a Chromecast device is that you only need your phone to log on to BSN and start the broadcast. After you have selected the Chromecast device from your casting options, the stream goes directly from your WIFI to the Chromecast device which is plugged into an HDMI port on the TV and your phone is then basically redundant except to use as a remote control through the Google Home app. I've only got cheap equipment but it works fine even in my summer house at the bottom of the garden which only has a basic TV which isn't even smart. It just needs HDMI ports. Once you have paired the Chromecast to your WiFi on initial setup, you can just put it in any TV in the house without any further setting up. For an outlay of £20 for an older version of Chromecast and any TV with an HDMI port the jobs a good 'un. It works for me anyway. Perhaps others would like to share what works for them as it might help others that are struggling?

BBC get their forecast from Meteogroup.

After about 5 or 6 races at Poole if your back wheel isn't on the fence you can forget about it

Really! Poole has plenty of lines. We get plenty of passing normally, less if it's a damp track I expect.

That's right, it's because we don't want to serve up a 1 line track like you have at Poole

Just to add - it’s been absolutely belting it down here today - tomorrow doesn’t look that great weather wise either - could well be off

,,,,and there you have it - The Birmingham Brummies troll has spoken so we should all take notice - NOT!!

Met Office definitely more accurate but personally I wouldn't be taking too much notice of any forecasts four or five days ahead, very likely they will change more than once by Thurs/Fri.

I don't know how you can cmpare Belle Vue to Sheffield, completely different, Sheffield is a multi use stadium not owned by the club and that causes many issues with the running of the team. Slagging off the promotion doesn't help anyone.

I would welcome Cradley Heath back... but don't tell my mates!

Well climate change really has so much to answer for doesnt it? I remember when I was growing up, loads of hot dry days and lovely evenings in October with the barometer often reaching the mid thirties.. Off I went to Hyde Rd each Saturday in shorts, T shirts and flip flops, looking forward to a "Senor Whippy" ice cream... (Yum Yum)... With a Flake obviously... Sometimes I had a tub instead, but they cost a bit more... Raspberry sauce too, goes without saying... Nowadays, incredibly, the back end of October has almost become like "the start of winter" hasnt it? Cold, dark, damp nights with the threat of a huge downpour seemingly always imminent, and the temperature often getting into single figures... "All of a sudden", that appears to be the norm doesnt it? When did THAT happen?

Personally I believe the League Table Toppers at the end of a season are the Champions and the PO winners are just that ... the PO winners ....

They didn't really nominate anyone. The reigning British Champion got the wild card

I wouldn't feel bad in the slightest, the promoters collectively voted in the play-offs, in the hope of some big crowds & a meaningful end to the season for clubs around mid-table. In doing so they gave up any right of the winners of the "qualifying league" to be considered unlucky if they don't win the league! Or even to be considered the "most deserving" winners. Imo if Poole finish 3rd & win the play-offs they deserve to be Champs. However I would personally prefer no play-offs & the table toppers to be crowned champions.

Just to clarify this, the policy regarding how postponed fixtures are displayed hasn't changed for many years, although the presentation is slightly different this year since the new website came online prior to the start of the season. I took over responsibility for BSP website editorial a number of years ago now, and one of the things I was keen to bring in was that we would show a separate news item previewing (and subsequently reviewing) every fixture individually. (You may remember that in the very old days, the updates tended to be 2 brief news items per day, and the reason for that was the content was tailored to fit in with the space requirements of Ceefax/Teletext). It's always been the case that if a meeting is postponed, the news item is removed and there's then a separate section on that front page where the fixture is marked as POSTPONED, along with any other relevant info, which would typically be the re-arranged date if available. As mentioned above, it looks slightly different now to the past when it was simply a text box showing results, but that information is still on the front page when a meeting is postponed. The news item previewing the meeting is obviously removed, as to leave it there would cause confusion, and personally I wouldn't want to see separate news items reporting meetings being postponed, especially in a week like this! Individual clubs, of course, would be putting postponement news items on their own websites, but on the BSP site it is reported on the front page down the fixtures/results section on the side, which has always been the case. We've worked over the years to add a huge amount of information to the BSP site - items such as official meeting scorecards, Green Sheets, match-by-match averages, pics from the previous night's meetings rather than standard press day shots, to name a few, but we're always open to suggestions on ways in which it can be improved. We'll look all aspects of output over the winter and happy to receive e-mails to the press office with any feasible suggestions for what you'd like to see in the future.

You make it sound like your on death row but your banter is anything but juicy p+ss springs to mind or even verbal diahorrea but juicy forget it.

Winning trophies is nice, but prioritising winning entertainment at home needs to be the priority. That’s what gets people to part with their cash.

I think it can, your right, but whether Leicester have any spare, decent shale or willing to get any for 1 meeting is a different matter...

No there’s loads but I get grassed up & banned.

You’re

Twenty Two posts over 10 years time to go back to sleep Sunny Leith

Yes, I have a Son Pardo badge. Guess Reg brought a load back for Eddie Toogood to sell at Plough lane

Wow. Nope, but you needed somebody with Fricke's kind of scoring power with an average that fitted once he sustained his injuries. Guests or R/R wouldn't have cut it.

30 pages of weather, this is why we need younger people in the sport, boring old farts.

Weather wise thursday looks good in Manchester

dont matter where the forecast comes from if its raining weds evening there wont be any speedway

Glasgow have only lost two meetings at home in the last two seasons, firstly to Edinburgh the night after Uli’s major accident and secondly to Poole in this years playoffs with a decimated squad and a 30 point deficit. I don’t feel it’s going to change in the near future.

Out of interest, how so? My phone is Android and I just start the broadcast on my phone and the cast symbol is at the bottom of the video window. I just touch on that and the list of available devices pops up, I select my Chromecast and it's instantly on my TV so I can't see how much simpler it can be? You are using the Chromecast and not the screen mirroring option? That's a different thing and is a faff!

Hi Noelinho. You can Chromecast from an Apple device, but you have to do it through our IOS App which can be downloaded from the Apple App Store. Please search for ‘BSN App’ and log in using your existing details. The App is free to download and use. Apple don’t allow the ability to Chromecast our videos via a web browser which I believe is due to a licensing issue. That’s the reason that we chose to develop the IOS App which bypasses this. I hope that helps! Ben Duffill

Running the league play offs in September would be the perfect scenario.. Just after the summer hols and kids back at school so maximum possible adult attendance... And whilst the weather is still decent too... The Cups should take place in April and be done and dusted by mid May.. Again, hopefully in decent weather.. Spreading the competitions keeps publicity throughout the season and not just in one block when Speedway closes just afterwards.. Win a trophy in May, get some local publicity, then advertise yourself as "x" cup winners for the rest of the season.. Fans like to latch on to something successful... Run all the individual comps in October...

Why do certain Poole fans feel the need to have a go at a new club that by all accounts has been well supported? Strange to say the least but not entirely surprising, there is barely a thread they haven't hijacked on here and turned it round to all about them.

Even if the season ran from January to December the way the sport is managed, fixture lists compiled and the book of excuses called rules are used, you would still have clubs who could not complete a fixture list. Time to run one home one away league fixture with play offs in August and fill the rest other forms of meaningless meetings and an individual British championship given that most of the riders are only interested in riding for themselves and would need to ride well to make a living rather than rely on clubs to finance what in effect is the riders business. Failing all that just let the riders and clubs pick and chose the meetings and days they want to race. Forgot they already do this!

No disrespect to him but he is the kind of dross that would be employed as a number seven if Rising Stars were dispensed with.

Time for a breakaway league. :-)

The final part of your post I suspect is spot on , I mentioned a while back and felt they are completely fed up with the shambles that the BSPL have presided over. I suspect we will still run but the BSPL are ripping the enthusiasm out of them.

Come on atkins was at heat leader against probably the best 2 in the league and boughen at reserve. Yep threw killeen in after a near faultless 1st meeting and he didn't score the jump in massive and does no good chucking riders in far to early.

He should be fit enough to do 1 lap !

The whole league saw that with the Eddie situation.

Whilst we have this thread going. Can I just say a huge Thank You to BSN for their coverage this year. Excellent job and much appreciated

Now Leicester have moved up wonder if there's any chance of Nick Morris coming back,or even getting Conor Mountain.