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This is also part of the problem with enforcing artificially low team averages. It's the guys in the middle order who get squeezed out every time. High average guys are kept and teams are filled out with low averages.

What about that bloke at Leicester? He always does really well.

I've always advocated allowing referees to use their discretion and allow all four back where a 'racing' incident occurs. Too often we see two riders clash as they take different lines off a bend, and come together. How many times do we hear Kelvin etc call it a 50-50, and how difficult a call it is for the ref to exclude one of them. As it stands, a rider trying to 'race' is often penalised, yet we as fans want to see RACING! I would go further, and where an incident occurs on the third or fourth lap, I would allow the ref the discretion to have a re-run with just the two who fell, and they would fight it out for the positions they were in when the race was stopped. How many times do we see a re-run where the rider who was leading by a mile ends up missing out. Should the rider who was well back in fourth spot be allowed the chance to win the race just because two at the front clashed? Allow refs to exclude where a rider has deliberately brought off another, or just made a mistake and come off, but allow riders who want to race to do so. Speedway would be the winner.

Whilst watching the premiership grand final it seemed to me that the referee made all the correct decisions according to the rules but the rules maybe need amending. any incidents up to the exit of the second bend can only be dealt with either a rerun due to a unsatisfactory start or a exclusion for the cause of the stoppage. There isn’t actually a rule about first bend bunching despite being spoken about repeatedly. why not have a 50/50 no blame rerun for any incidents on the first lap which genuinely is a 50/50 incident. this would allow more 4 rider races and points to be won on the track rather than the referee exclusion light. thoughts ???

Belle Vue want him. ‘Yes he may struggle initially in 1-5 but then he will go to reserve. And also he’s only 18 so really his average should only go 1 way

Poole would never go with 2 two point reserves. They would be there all season, no chance of reserve swaps if one of the top 5 had an off night. Need one decent scoring reserve.

That is the worst team you've ever put together and there've been some stinkers.

Think you are wildly underestimating him. But hope he signs over here so we can see!

I’m confident we may see a new Aussie in the team next year.

Maybe, but watching Holder ride in Poland over the past two seasons, he has definitely worked his way back into the top 20 or so in the world I would say.. And, in my opinion, is quite a way above the level of the likes of Musielak, Kurtz, and Zagar, and even above Fricke... I would say he would be easily vying for third in the averages behind Doyle and Bewley if he rode over here... Seems to have got his "mojo" back so would be a very good signing for anyone I would suggest..

Holder won’t get anywhere near Doyle’s average here. We had all this this time last year when more than one person tipped younger Holder, Kurtz and Max Fricke to all eclipse Doyle this year, and none of them got remotely close.

Wouldn’t disagree regarding the pijpers

Fingers crossed.

British riders get a 2.5% average reduction.

Shame for stormy, don't see him getting a place anywhere on that average. Might be last we see of him

Trevor Redmond rider/team manager/promoter for the Tigers in the Provincial League season but probably no one since.

Beat me by 10 seconds lol

Can tell you last Saturdays if that would help.

Surely not *that* Mike West? The one that Andy Williams sung about in The Impossible Dream?

Would assume Edwards will be at Redcar?

Can someone in the know please tell me Saturdays lottery numbers.

Ace to Berwick orGlasgow,Theo retires to help him anyone.

Has been muted elsewhere, though, that as the boy doesn’t yet drive, being in the same team would help with transport logistics.

Best team rider I ever saw

Think more chance of Harris at Oxford than Glasgow.

I've always thought the panto season shouldn't start until Dec 1st ......we seem to run a 12 month season on the bsf.

I think you’ll be very close if not bang on with that.

As far as I’m concerned, I would put Harris’s previous season with us down as a blip……and would have him back in a heartbeat.

Given that in 2022 Chris Holder had a higher average than Woffinden, Doyle, Bewley and Jack Holder in Poland, and Janowski, Dudek and Lindgren in Sweden I'd suggest he's hardly a spent force.

Chris Harris won't be at Glasgow. Glasgow management aren't going to splash out 8.75 points on a rider who let them down drastically just a couple of years ago. 14.77 left for 3 riders imo. Benjamin Basso 8.52 Tom Brennan 6.71 Claus Vissing 5.00 Marcin Nowak 5.00

You have beat me to it. Absolutely brilliant foiled crump on every bend. He was fuming

See some very good races this year,when was the last time you went?

Good shout with Mountain and Jenkins they would fit nicely

That's if it is gate n go.......prep might change if ownership of promotion does.

This^^, a tad biased, perhaps, but Moore (& Briggs), Mauger, Olsen & Nielsen (& Gundersen) all team rode, I know as I saw them all do it with the exception of Moore, & they turned their teams into succsessful ones. TRick was a very good rider, granted, you don't get 6 World Championships just handed to you, but was more for himself than his teams....

Definitely one of the greats. I was at the meeting where he broke his leg which caused his early retirement. He was sadly only a shadow of his former self when he returned to racing but still a wonderful rider. Very pleased that I got to watch him every week from August 1957 until that crash brought his career to a temporary end.

I presume you didn’t read his post whatsoever?

TJ a massive mistake on that average, but like you say, would always have a decent reserve, and you have 3 good young riders too, as well as Starke who would be able to put a point or 2 on if he stayed fit imo. But I’ve heard Jesper isn’t coming to Britain this season.

Averages including bonus points are a better reflection of individual rider ability, but shouldn't be used for team building.

Holder is Ipswich bound funded by Guy

I think with Pearson look at his results in polish U24 league, seemed to score well in most meetings out there so definitely a quality rider in there. After a season learning British tracks wouldn't be shocked if he puts 3 points on his actual average, get to 5.5/6

Can't really agree with that given he was riding champ with Peterborough the season before

If Harris is indeed back at Glasgow, I am sure he is aware of the strong feeling from Glasgow fans that he let us down last time and management are well aware of fans opinion, however, we have to realise that he came to us thinking that the championship was going to be easy money, and the fact that he was on a guarantee as well, meant he didn't have to put a lot of effort in, however this season he was immense for Berwick and had very few engine failures, so I think Glasgow fans will forgive him if he shows commitment, however it may take time

Chris Harris is your new number one

Me too. I was just saying that Sheffield don't have a reason to drop Ellis when the core of the 2022 team would've won the Double last season if it wasn't for Babs lol. Holder will do a Doyle in this league imo.

Potential!! Hes 38 and had nearly 10 years out of Speedway!

May upset a few with this but he was paid to do so.

I'm saving this for later

I used to work for Mike Bennett at Bradford filming. Saw some cracking racing!

So you think that those that have reached pension age haven't had to pay these costs throughout their lives ? Back in the 70's, interest rates for mortgages were in the region of 11% to 15 %. We just got on with it. Commuting ? My dad used to walk 5 miles to work to start at 6:00 am because there were no buses. Growing up I lived in a house with an outside toilet and no central heating. Today's pensioners have gone through a lot more than cosseted people like you ever will. So shut up.