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This is also part of the problem with enforcing artificially low team averages. It's the guys in the middle order who get squeezed out every time. High average guys are kept and teams are filled out with low averages.

What about that bloke at Leicester? He always does really well.

I've always advocated allowing referees to use their discretion and allow all four back where a 'racing' incident occurs. Too often we see two riders clash as they take different lines off a bend, and come together. How many times do we hear Kelvin etc call it a 50-50, and how difficult a call it is for the ref to exclude one of them. As it stands, a rider trying to 'race' is often penalised, yet we as fans want to see RACING! I would go further, and where an incident occurs on the third or fourth lap, I would allow the ref the discretion to have a re-run with just the two who fell, and they would fight it out for the positions they were in when the race was stopped. How many times do we see a re-run where the rider who was leading by a mile ends up missing out. Should the rider who was well back in fourth spot be allowed the chance to win the race just because two at the front clashed? Allow refs to exclude where a rider has deliberately brought off another, or just made a mistake and come off, but allow riders who want to race to do so. Speedway would be the winner.

Whilst watching the premiership grand final it seemed to me that the referee made all the correct decisions according to the rules but the rules maybe need amending. any incidents up to the exit of the second bend can only be dealt with either a rerun due to a unsatisfactory start or a exclusion for the cause of the stoppage. There isn’t actually a rule about first bend bunching despite being spoken about repeatedly. why not have a 50/50 no blame rerun for any incidents on the first lap which genuinely is a 50/50 incident. this would allow more 4 rider races and points to be won on the track rather than the referee exclusion light. thoughts ???

Belle Vue want him. ‘Yes he may struggle initially in 1-5 but then he will go to reserve. And also he’s only 18 so really his average should only go 1 way

Poole would never go with 2 two point reserves. They would be there all season, no chance of reserve swaps if one of the top 5 had an off night. Need one decent scoring reserve.

That is the worst team you've ever put together and there've been some stinkers.

Think you are wildly underestimating him. But hope he signs over here so we can see!

I’m confident we may see a new Aussie in the team next year.

Maybe, but watching Holder ride in Poland over the past two seasons, he has definitely worked his way back into the top 20 or so in the world I would say.. And, in my opinion, is quite a way above the level of the likes of Musielak, Kurtz, and Zagar, and even above Fricke... I would say he would be easily vying for third in the averages behind Doyle and Bewley if he rode over here... Seems to have got his "mojo" back so would be a very good signing for anyone I would suggest..

Holder won’t get anywhere near Doyle’s average here. We had all this this time last year when more than one person tipped younger Holder, Kurtz and Max Fricke to all eclipse Doyle this year, and none of them got remotely close.

Wouldn’t disagree regarding the pijpers

Fingers crossed.

British riders get a 2.5% average reduction.

Shame for stormy, don't see him getting a place anywhere on that average. Might be last we see of him

Trevor Redmond rider/team manager/promoter for the Tigers in the Provincial League season but probably no one since.

Beat me by 10 seconds lol

Can tell you last Saturdays if that would help.

Surely not *that* Mike West? The one that Andy Williams sung about in The Impossible Dream?

Would assume Edwards will be at Redcar?

Can someone in the know please tell me Saturdays lottery numbers.

Ace to Berwick orGlasgow,Theo retires to help him anyone.

Has been muted elsewhere, though, that as the boy doesn’t yet drive, being in the same team would help with transport logistics.

Best team rider I ever saw

Think more chance of Harris at Oxford than Glasgow.

I've always thought the panto season shouldn't start until Dec 1st ......we seem to run a 12 month season on the bsf.

I think you’ll be very close if not bang on with that.

As far as I’m concerned, I would put Harris’s previous season with us down as a blip……and would have him back in a heartbeat.

Given that in 2022 Chris Holder had a higher average than Woffinden, Doyle, Bewley and Jack Holder in Poland, and Janowski, Dudek and Lindgren in Sweden I'd suggest he's hardly a spent force.

Chris Harris won't be at Glasgow. Glasgow management aren't going to splash out 8.75 points on a rider who let them down drastically just a couple of years ago. 14.77 left for 3 riders imo. Benjamin Basso 8.52 Tom Brennan 6.71 Claus Vissing 5.00 Marcin Nowak 5.00

I feel that a few of the younger Latvian, Czech and Danish riders could definitely be brought over to the UK. Polish riders of similar ages are getting chances to race against the best riders in the world with the U21 reserves in the Polish Leagues, with the promise of racing against Doyle, Fricke, Holder and Bewley those non-polish riders might race in the UK. I'm thinking Francis Gusts, Juhl Pedersen, Daniel Klima etc.

Out of interest, who are the 19 riders who you think shouldn't be in the NDL? Or if it's easier to answer, which is the one rider that you think is the only one who should be in the NDL?

Not on last seasons form

Racing definitely, but for once, just once it would be nice to win the league!

Broc Nicol goes well at Poole.!!

No chance Hans and Nicholls will be at Peterborough. I've given you all the first 4

To summarise Yes No Maybe

Wow! And I thought Poole's 2022 top 3 was top heavy!

Hume is popular because he is a nice guy as much as his riding but personally I think he still has a lot of potential and will improve next season.

Dont see Theo riding in the same as his son would want to spend all his time with him during the meeting

So, somebody who is close to the management team at pb has been passing you information directly to you and you post it on BSF?

...I only saw Ronnie on a couple of occasions in 1972 and he was still a very classy act. To think what more he may have achieved if he hadn't retired for a number of years before making a return to the UK and scoring the way he did. Personally I think his achievements as a rider tend to get overlooked. One of the greats!

Totally underwhelming.

Workington comets No 8 is THJ

Nick morris has signed

Don't know and don't care

Until someone has to live off a pension and see how thinly that income has to be spread I don't feel they are qualified to add value to this topic. Deciding what stays and goes on a monthly basis isn't a comfortable feeling. In my opinion Speedway would be better off trying to keep the customers it has already got rather than risk alienating more. The sport hasn't been very good in the past at this, self interest and the blind desire to win has distorted every possible view of what was a sport. The limited company that has no financial or marketing leadership and is running the "show" needs to become a proper company instead of an agency for the village fete committee then we might see some accountability and unilateral direction. The decision to become a limited company in my opinion was purely a risk averse move. In simple terms; invest in a growing market, consolidate in a static market and defend in a receding market. It all costs money but in these times it may be wiser to try and lose less by defending what they already have.

Bickley is another one of those who as a junior was hyped up and mounted on top machinery against other riders who were on second hand bikes of a poorer standard. All well and good in the third tier but when you move up to the second and first tiers, most riders machinery is of a good standard and simply having elite equipment isn't enough. Absolutely nothing against the lad but hyping these riders up is foolish - he is arguably the same level now as he was when he first joined the Championship a few years ago. Drew Kemp is another one.

Personally would rather see the great racing that scunthorpe and Redcar produces than rubbish racing and massive home wins. Nobody really cares who wins the league so would rather be entertained at the meetings I attend

I prefer it when clubs announce one rider at a time. Means I can predict teams throughout the winter, which I've always enjoyed doing. When a team announces all 7 in one go, I feel what's there left to talk about lol!