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I think the point is what is the point in winning the title in tangible benefits? Are BV's crowds significantly up this year, is there blanket media coverage every time they ride? What was the prize money they won? Extra sponsorship gained? They just got a pot in the cupboard and an entry in the history books, which is ok for the likes of a village cricket team... but a professional sports club?

Don't forget you're talking to somebody here who saw his team win the 2019 CL and the club did absolutely nothing with it in the way of marketing it to the general public, let alone their own fans... home fans never even got to see the trophy! And a fan who followed his team in the league and was expected to travel over to KL to watch his team ride in their "home" leg of the pay off final and a fan who followed his club around the country supporting them in their quest to win the Jubilee Trophy (Summer Trophy) and is still waiting for his team to ride in the final of that competition! With all due respect to Guy Nicholls, who I don't know, but I suspect he was a Speedway fan and has pumped money into the club by the way of sponsorship because of that, a Speedway fan that has built a successful business? If there really was a tangible benefit to sponsoring a Speedway club bigger companies than his would be queuing up to sponsor riders & clubs, companies that are not fans of the sport but can see a clear and tangible benefit on sponsorship... unfortunately they're more of a man with skip variety of company and there's absolutely nothing wrong with that and I'm not knocking those who do come forward with sponsorship, there would probably be no Speedway without them. You say it's sport, that's what it's all about... is it? Is it a sport? When the captain of your team is riding for all and sundry and your manager is managing another club and your owner/promoter owns/promotes another club... is that a sport? For it to be a sport it has to have integrity, speedway has absolutely none bar from 4 riders racing 4 laps against each other, it stops as soon as they leave the track.

In this case it was relevant!

Nice positive start to the thread folks

Loved the play offs, but to win lose or draw wouldnt have bothered me. The racing was great... And is consistently very good all around the country.. You cannot take it seriously though can you? Guest Riders dictating where the titles end up, and who qualifies for the play offs, potentially preventing their own team, their fans, and even themselves from winning anything.. Guest Managers taking charge of another team on nights their own team are riding? And riders being prevented from riding for their own team because they have an injury, but allowed to ride for another team because they haven't.. For those who still take seriously a competion that has all that as part of its operating then fair play,... Like so many others now who attend reasonably frequently, I just enjoy watching the racing and whoever wins, then good luck to them.. As I say, the racing nowadays is as good as anything I have seen served up.

What do you mean “just a pot in the Cupboard”? It’s sport, that’s what it’s all about isn’t it? I’ve already conceded the financial part, as far as I know there’s no financial gain from winning it, but it’s still not “pointless” or “worthless” is it? I don’t understand some of you who downplay winning a league title. Whether it’s football, cricket, tiddlywinks or Speedway, if it’s your club you want to see them successful surely? And I think it IS important as far as sponsorship goes. I remember reading pre-season the thoughts of Chris Louis who said how lucky he was that the club was very well backed by excellent sponsors, but those sponsors want to be associated with a successful club, not failure and he has to deliver for them as well as the fans. Ask Guy Nicholls if Ipswich winning the league is important to him.

No problem with working to a budget but teams in whatever league the management choose need to be competitive, if you cannot afford to be competitive in the Premier league then run in the Championship. I seem to recall Chapman’s King Lynn team did rather well in the Championship past decades.

What I don’t understand is why people are slagging off Buster for having to work to a budget. All successful businesses have to do this. I would rather that he pays what can be afforded and keep speedway going rather than overspend and bankrupt the club (as has been the case in some other clubs).

Less racing at Poole too

And nicer people

Fleetwood Mac?

Bring plenty of sun cream and maybe a book to read during the inevitable sun delay

It's a variation of the premises licence for a maximum of 3 weekend 'events' per annum plus drive-in movies in school holidays. The stadium leaseholders - GI - are NOT looking to run these things themselves, merely hire out the stadium to potential event organisers for a rental fee - similar to and in addition to speedway.

Agree on Rowe and Kemp, but personally I’d have plumped for Conor Bailey next and then Dan after him. Maybe Bailey has been asked but thinks the Championship and NDL is enough for him at the moment who knows. I do think the RS system should be shelved next year though. I understand the reasons for bringing it in to help the youngsters along, but I’m not convinced it adds anything positive to a meeting. Poor old Joe lined up on Monday in one heat against Musielak, King and Kerr and was obviously miles behind. Against Leicester he lined up against Emil, Harris and Sedgmen etc etc. he’s nowhere near that standard and neither are the majority of the others so it can’t be good for morale and confidence when you’re finishing half a lap behind the others. Fans don’t want to see that either. Needs binning.

Love making everything about Poole don't you

I'd go with Charles Wright & Scott Nicholls, but I'm pretty sure it'll end up being Tom Brennan & Adam Ellis.

Busters ordered the search he dropped a pound coin and needs it desperately now

Everyone at Leicester has a soft spot for the twins (having seen them start out as mascots), but getting axed, however unfair it may seem, is unfortunately part and parcel of the sport. The sooner they learn to accept it the better. In view of the lack of opportunities out there, they may have to learn to be tight lipped.

Presumably a precaution so is fit for his clubs. Fully expect he'll be riding for Sheffield tomorrow and Plymouth Friday

ANSWER So reading Berwick Website match previewJonus stated on social media that he would be riding in Poland this Sat.I presume that where the misinformation obviously came from.Now he is available.Hope that answers your question.

My bad it was Max Wakefield I believe.

Why are you comparing it to Poole to a Brummies fan! lol Poole isn't a city anyway! Do they have a posh beach.. Oh...

That rumour can be discounted as the owners of Arlington have already said the stadium wont be available for Speedway in the future as the people trying to revive Eastbourne Eagles were informed. Their statement is on the Championship Forum for Eastbourne Eagles on 15th March this year.

A cynic eh . TJ still gets his easier rides at 4, and if Fred falls ill god forbid....

But you can spend the day in Oxford beforehand, which is a far nicer city!

I've heard rumours of Poole staying exactly where they are and welcoming more tracks on Wednesdays.!

Easy Home win yet again, Not as big as the last couple of weeks but they'll still win easy.

Notwithstanding Wolves possibly going too.........!!

One day, there may even be 7 riders (not including guests) in the team.

Ok so maybe its a bit of a laugh - but one of them is averging 4.17 the other 1.85 - so perhaps not such a nonsensical decision after all

Probably need to save after drafting in Robert Lambert last season at great expense.

Don't see how it was wasted....bit of white marker turns 'a' into 'p' and stick 'on' to the end. Thomas into Thompson is a pretty easy switch Although maybe in the revolving door of speedeay these days the names should be velcro like the numbers.

I’ll give you the financial reward part, but not the others. What I find “baffling” here is you’re a Belle Vue supporter! I guess you were at the bar and missed the euphoria from fans, riders, team manager and everyone connected to Belle Vue when they finally clinched the title after so many years? This isn’t the first time you’ve claimed winning the title is pointless, it’s anything but.

Can also sell any unsold pics of Joe as Dan at the club shop lol!

But the stamp WASNT under the hand.....it was on the BACK of the hand ?

You can't compete at this level on those budgets unfortunately

Except Lambert and Joel nothing positive to say from Smederna - Dackarna. Rubbish attendence (2800), Rubbish track and rubbish team perfomance.

Take a bow Steve Worrall, fantastic gesture.

5 riders in Brum team have ridden for Leicester this season, so they should be no strangers to red and yellow

What an absolute mess! Brady has clearly bitten off more than he can chew and bailed out. Anyone who thinks otherwise must be mental. Both Lynn and Peterborough in an absolute mess. Has British Speedway ever been in such a mess? Certainly not in my life time.

A shame that another newcomer who could have been a breath of fresh air has gone (for now hopefully back) Too long a list over past decade. Forced out Money runs out Main income source affected Disillusion Those and other reasons. I'd imagine anyone running and funding Estate Agencies is in deep mess right now though, economy trashed, mortgage rates rising, cost of living crisis. Going to be a rocky few years for them. Hopefully Alex will be back

some shot that

Gossip gossip gossip.... lets just get on with it!

Shame to see Alex go though. Alex tried to achieve more at KL in a couple of months than Buster has in years (Not a dig, Just a compliment to Alex)

I remember one rider had "Funk It" on the back of his kevlars - something's telling me it was Lee Dicken? Belle Vue Colts duo Elvis Jones and Glen Furniss had "Team Baxide", a pun on Team Exide who were so successful at the time with Hamill and Hancock.

My thought has always been why would you want to go when you've paid for a second half and it's more heats whatever level, as you say can't fathom it out as it always seemed a bonus. Always watched the second halves at Eastbourne, saw in my time young Kennett, Bridger, Brennan etc being so excited when they got under 60 seconds. Also half emptied the car park and always got out quickly, I did have a good hours drive to get home, so it wasn't as though I lived around the corner.

You would have someone who is a Stars fan. Who puts his money where his mouth is, and Rob Lyon who has the experience, to guide/ advise him.. Sounds like a good combo.

I don't know about you lot but if the rumours are true then I'd absolutely LOVE Alex Brady as promoter and Rob Lyon as manager!! I think they'd be a great team