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Yep thought you would miss the point, nothing wrong with belle vue track and yes it probably is the best track in the uk even though I would argue Workington is better but nobody went to Cardiff for the track or the racing ,they went for the event, for the whole experience, the day out, the p**s up, call it whatever you want and it attracted speedway folk who hasn’t been in years because of the buzz about the day and the crowd dropped off because the organisers rested in their past success instead of trying to improve it and it got stale, it needed a new Cardiff not belle vue. I’m sure the racing will be great tonight and tomorrow but that’s not going to attract me or 85%of the 1000s who went to Cardiff to go or any of the randem non speedway folk who went because of the buzz of the event ,the GP is an event, it’s a celebration, it’s a days entertainment, the speedway is secondary, 19,000 went last year and now we down to 6500 and it hasn’t even sold out

Forget Cardiff that’s for drinking,Manchester for speedway.

Having worked in the hospitality industry for 25 years it never ceases to amaze me how on the big day, when everyone should be on point. British speedway always manages to shoot themselves in the foot…. Every bloody time. forget the stupid, flash banners and just get the bare basics right….. it’s not rocket science. if you can’t do the basics to cater for your paying clients in the 21st century. Step aside or pay someone professional to do it for you.

Camera work is pathetic !!

And as quick as the meeting finished discovery end the broadcast and show some documentary about some car racing, they are the promoters, they own the whole show and have the tv channels to promote the sport and nothing, it’s time we got discovery out of speedway they are useless

But due to the silly scoring system. You had Fricke score 12pts and Lambert 7pts from their 5 rides. After the LCQ Fricke ends up with 8pts Lambert 11pts!! So you had one rider have a fantastic night. Has one bad ride and another ride has an average night ends up getting 5 pts more than guy who was far better on the night!! Stupid scoring system. What was wrong with the system where every point counted ?

That drone needs to be shot down. Absolute garbage... Well done Dan...

Well I think the racing has been excellent so far.

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Has been very good,100% better than Cardiff.Just need to brush up on the organisation of the event by hmm,about 100%.

Is that it, your best shot. You're a clown mate.

Excluding the Scottish Cup, and the Poole match (because the publication deadline was probably before that match), Leon scored (including bonus points) 24 points from 9 rides. That's an average of 10.67. Also, this thread, wow.

There will be - just be patient - both for qualifying/sprint and meeting proper.

Great speedway! Best gp of the year by far. Shame about the organisation with ticket/catering issues as I mentioned before the event. Thought lessons would have been learnt from SON. Well done Bewley 👏

The actually racing was phenomenal, everything else was an utter car crash. From queues to get in, duplicate tickets, tickets for seats that didn’t exist, ridiculous long lines for food and drink, if you joined it on a track grade you’d miss a full section of the meeting and be back for the next track grade.

That was an entertaining Speedway Meeting.

Neither Kurtz bewley or zmarzlik put a foot wrong in that final and apart from position none of them can improve on that, that was 3 riders at their absolute peak and was a joy to watch

Yes. I was thinking the same thing. How many times have they cut to show a single rider when there's a good race going on that you're trying to follow?

Absolutely love this track,but the organisation here tonight is absolutely garbage.People being shut out for a few races,people in our seats saying there seats don't exist so sit anywhere.No information where to get programmes,no sound on bends 3 and 4,can't hear a fu@£ing thing.My daughter spoke to Mark Lemon saying its a shambles and he said it totally is and he is fuming.

90,000 crazy speedway fans from all over Europe created the atmosphere. 6000 senior citizens doesn't quite do it, does it?

Oh don't worry Dean i I did get your point, so you thought wrong. As i said the Manchester GP has nothing to do with Cardiff not being here anymore. 20k people stopped going to Cardiff, the bars are all still there so they stopped going due to the racing, the cost or possibly both. You say you expect the racing will probably be great the next 2 days, and your partner and son are going but that wont attract you, well maybe you just simply don't like speedway anymore, which is OK of course. The speedway maybe be secondary for you but it isn't for me, and the 20k who stopped going to Cardiff.

Lots of things wrong with Speedway, a GP at Belle Vue isn't one of them. What's it a backward step from, this is a new GP, this was happening regardless of Cardiff. The fact we were only getting 19k at Cardiff has nothing to do with a GP now happening at the best UK track.

That was just to get his official July GSA down!!😃

Do not want to get involved in the squabbling but Leon Flint has been around a while now and seems unable to get set-up rights far too often. Personally think he has reached his level 3rd Heatleader/ second string in Championship.Dont think he has the backing to do the amount of meetings he is trying to fit in. Track is the same for everybody.

Plenty further north in the Lake District.

Well personally my only experience of a groin injury was with a very nice lady in Bangor, well I say injury it was more of a nasty little rash.

From the back and from the tapes, fair play to Bewley

Brilliant from bewley and the other 3 too

I really do wish that the wider sporting community could see races like that and appreciate that it is not always those who make the gate win. Well done to all four riders.

I was always taught that the shortest route was the quickest. So, how come Dan rode about 6 miles further than Holder there, and won???

Mega dan

This is why Zmarzlik is so good. No matter what he still works hard and gets the points even when it’s proving more difficult for him. We really are missing someone who can truly challenge him. Title no.6 is on the way.

Lambert definately rode hard for 7 points! Shame his gating has been awful

Enjoying the coverage here on TNT - just adverts between blocks of four races, none of those awful interviews

The director must be a 13 year old work experience - pathetic work

mark lemon and phil morris couldnt organise a piss up in a brewery who puts water on the track when over watered anyway

Louis bang on there Zmarzlik just following Brady inch for inch to work out how far to go if he needs too

Total rubbish from you more like

Just thought I'd reiterate the above as various comments have been made some of which were in response to this post and others in response to comments about the comments. I shall correct one sentence and apologise for stating Leon Flint scored a 15 point maximum when in fact he only got a 15 point paid maximum. Me bad! Everything else is what I observed from watching the BSN recording or in respect of the Speedway Star factually correct. How people interpret what I've posted is up to them.

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If the Muslim or Sikh community were running the GP Gorton would of been alive with streets buzzing with attractions and things to do just like the early years of Cardiff instead discovery put up some scaffolding with a big M on it and think that will entertain fans, some of you must of been to the weston super mare beach race, look how the organisers take over the town making it an event, discovery do nothing and that’s why people won’t go, it’s just a meeting not an event

The Stupid Heat is a gimmick.

So that buffoon attempted to use Flint’s home average across just two meetings as basis to support his point?😂 Brilliant. A grown adult tells us he’s watched the meeting back and given us some of the most child-like observations I’ve ever heard, including ”Leon Flint and his bike were caked in shale”, ”Leon Flint was gutted” and ”remember there were heavy showers that week”. He then attempts to use an average across two - yes, two - home meetings to support his point. All regarding a rider who regularly let the club down last season and has largely continued that trend this season. What a place this forum is. Tribal loyalty supersedes sense.

What? In Manchester? There are pubs? Fill your boots mate, eat and drink as much as you can.... As the whole city closes at 9pm... They switch the electricity off... "I want Cardiff, WAH! WAH! WAH!"...

Richard Lawson doesn't think bonus points are worthless, he put the brakes on big style in the 1st race at Poole on Wednesday to get one

All this hype about moving from windows 10 to 11 im going back to the old way as in photo above.

Indeed. One point dropped to the opposition in two days and half a lap ahead in most races. His SON at BV last year, and whole mid-season, was massively compromised when the Ukranian knocked him off in his first heat in the Qualifier forcing him to return home for treatment before the final. Also top scored for Poland in the 2016 World Cup Final winning three of his 5 races, which was the only other time he visited as far as I know.

Really good meeting with lots of action. Flint really impressed for the visitors. I’m no jack holder fan but fair play to him for riding heat 15 and the superheat considering he has a gp tomorrow. another superb crowd royally entertained.

Why would you overlook a stronger rider just because you run a NL/NT team? If every club chose replacements from their development team only, then clubs that don't run a development team, would be at an advantage, being able to pick from any NL/NT team for a replacement. By that logic every Prem team losing a RS would be signing a NL/NT rider as a replacement, while Ipswich could go for Gilkes or Hagon because they don't have a NL/NT team to recruit from. Also the NL/NT is miles away from the Prem, even at RS level. It's better riders move up when they are ready & not before. If one of the top NL/NT riders Max James, steps down from Edinburgh because it's too tough for him, surely you wouldn't put him in a RS spot just because he rides for Birmingham's second team?