Hamster00 Posted Sunday at 10:02 AM Report Share Posted Sunday at 10:02 AM 1 hour ago, Bandit59 said: Don't think Ben's average fits He does for Smith Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screm Posted Sunday at 10:24 AM Report Share Posted Sunday at 10:24 AM The recent changes are welcome and an indication that the promotion are at least aiming for a play off spot, but if the team doesn`t deliver on track with wins especially at home, a play off place is a million miles away. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crescent girl Posted Sunday at 10:39 AM Report Share Posted Sunday at 10:39 AM 1 hour ago, Bandit59 said: Don't think Ben's average fits It does, he could replace either Jack Smith or Sam Hagon -- but to make such a change on the strength of one audition could be a risk....... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazc Posted Sunday at 10:45 AM Report Share Posted Sunday at 10:45 AM 4 minutes ago, crescent girl said: It does, he could replace either Jack Smith or Sam Hagon -- but to make such a change on the strength of one audition could be a risk....... Thought he didn’t fancy the travel up North, this obviously may have changed since then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted Sunday at 10:56 AM Report Share Posted Sunday at 10:56 AM 14 minutes ago, crescent girl said: It does, he could replace either Jack Smith or Sam Hagon -- but to make such a change on the strength of one audition could be a risk....... Don’t think it is much of a risk if replacing Smith.Still has age on his side compared to Smith who has certainly reached his level. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragdoll64 Posted Sunday at 11:16 AM Report Share Posted Sunday at 11:16 AM 16 minutes ago, Fromafar said: Don’t think it is much of a risk if replacing Smith.Still has age on his side compared to Smith who has certainly reached his level. To be fair, I think he means a risk at the moment with a view to playoff possibilities….not in the long term, where you are correct re. Trigger’s age and Smith’s level. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted Sunday at 12:01 PM Report Share Posted Sunday at 12:01 PM 42 minutes ago, ragdoll64 said: To be fair, I think he means a risk at the moment with a view to playoff possibilities….not in the long term, where you are correct re. Trigger’s age and Smith’s level. Don’t think Berwick will make play -offs anyway.Probably not worth changing if that was a reason. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DSC67 Posted Sunday at 02:08 PM Report Share Posted Sunday at 02:08 PM Well done to everyone who contributed to last night’s Ben Fund collection , a fantastic £1885 was collected 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamster00 Posted Sunday at 02:56 PM Report Share Posted Sunday at 02:56 PM 3 hours ago, Fromafar said: Don’t think it is much of a risk if replacing Smith.Still has age on his side compared to Smith who has certainly reached his level. Completely agree, he’s actually upped his average this season at Plymouth and was just an unfortunate victim of circumstance. I’d certainly have him in over Smith for the rest of the season based on that and his efforts last night, it’s hardly a big risk, his floor is probably the same as Smiths but his ceiling is higher imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SharpenRake Posted Sunday at 03:29 PM Report Share Posted Sunday at 03:29 PM Ben certainly did well on a rough, patchy track. However, wouldn't it be better to prepare a good racing surface and allow your riders to show off their skills? Look at Kemp, Jeppesen and Smith at Glasgow on Friday they were very competitive compared to Saturday night where they appeared to be a bit tentative. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bandit59 Posted Sunday at 05:00 PM Report Share Posted Sunday at 05:00 PM 1 hour ago, SharpenRake said: Ben certainly did well on a rough, patchy track. However, wouldn't it be better to prepare a good racing surface and allow your riders to show off their skills? Look at Kemp, Jeppesen and Smith at Glasgow on Friday they were very competitive compared to Saturday night where they appeared to be a bit tentative. You're spot on with that (but you're not allowed to say it) 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allthegearbutnaeidea Posted Sunday at 06:20 PM Report Share Posted Sunday at 06:20 PM 2 hours ago, SharpenRake said: Ben certainly did well on a rough, patchy track. However, wouldn't it be better to prepare a good racing surface and allow your riders to show off their skills? Look at Kemp, Jeppesen and Smith at Glasgow on Friday they were very competitive compared to Saturday night where they appeared to be a bit tentative. The excuse would be that BRFC were playing so no access to the track. I thought it was patchy on bend 3 early doors, whether that got fixed by the constant track grades, or the riders just simply tried to avoid it once they knew where it was. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted Sunday at 06:27 PM Report Share Posted Sunday at 06:27 PM 2 minutes ago, allthegearbutnaeidea said: The excuse would be that BRFC were playing so no access to the track. I thought it was patchy on bend 3 early doors, whether that got fixed by the constant track grades, or the riders just simply tried to avoid it once they knew where it was. The actual track prep has always been a bit hit of miss whatever excuse they want to use.IMO The riders just have to get on with it. Tough on home riders set up wise though. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
szkocjasid Posted Sunday at 09:07 PM Report Share Posted Sunday at 09:07 PM (edited) Had a quick look at the 2025 averages Hagon 3.84 (4.16) Smith 2.76 (3.20) Trigger 3.60 (4.53) This won't show any guest appearances, but shows Trigger was not poor for Plymouth (he upped his starting average) but was dropped because the team on the whole was weak. If Berwick have play-offs aspirations, then Trigger for Smith is a signing they need to make imo Edited yesterday at 07:31 AM by szkocjasid 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screm Posted yesterday at 04:04 AM Report Share Posted yesterday at 04:04 AM 17 hours ago, crescent girl said: It does, he could replace either Jack Smith or Sam Hagon -- but to make such a change on the strength of one audition could be a risk....... Using your argument then, it could be argued that Smith has had several auditions to prove his worth and to keep his team place. Has he done that ?. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
szkocjasid Posted yesterday at 07:35 AM Report Share Posted yesterday at 07:35 AM (edited) 21 hours ago, crescent girl said: It does, he could replace either Jack Smith or Sam Hagon -- but to make such a change on the strength of one audition could be a risk....... In this situation, wouldn't call it a risk, Trigger has a similar rolling ave to Smith, so they're not basing a change on 1 match. When Glasgow signed Hodder based on 1 good match, when he averaged well below 2.00 all season, sounds more like the scenario you're suggesting. I'd also say Berwick wouldn't be making the signing based on 1 match, because they wouldn't be expecting scores like that every week. Just signing a 3.5 rider, hoping he can reach 4.0? Currently Smith is a 3.5 rider who's dropped below 3.0. Doesn't seem a risk to me. Edited yesterday at 08:20 AM by szkocjasid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaColette Posted yesterday at 02:43 PM Report Share Posted yesterday at 02:43 PM On 7/26/2025 at 4:31 PM, IainB said: Apparently he's flying in on Wednesday, practising on Thursday and riding on Friday... as long as he sticks to cans of Red Bull to get over the jet lag and doesn't reach for anything else all should be good. Tuesday? As he is on his flight now if you look at his Instagram. I know it takes a long time from Australia but not that long! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bandit59 Posted yesterday at 05:03 PM Report Share Posted yesterday at 05:03 PM 2 hours ago, LisaColette said: Tuesday? As he is on his flight now if you look at his Instagram. I know it takes a long time from Australia but not that long! Yes,it was said on BSN flying in on Tuesday practice on Wednesday sure they said Leicester, Edinburgh on Friday 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gambo95 Posted 23 hours ago Report Share Posted 23 hours ago On 7/26/2025 at 9:12 PM, Fromafar said: Well done to Tigers,no excuses beat by a4 man Team though.Just as well the other 3 weren’t there it would have been a massacre. Special mention to Ben Trigger certainly done his bit. Can look at meetings any way you like. Just looking at the 1st meeting program and updates for Saturday past. Dan scored 8 and r/r scored 8. Leon scored 5+1 and his rides scored 2+1 Craig scored 10 and r/r scored 7. Ben scored 6 and Sam scored 6. Looks like missing riders cancel each other out as Nagel not raced any away matches for Glasgow to judge his score on. Would say it would still have been close with both teams at full strength. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allthegearbutnaeidea Posted 23 hours ago Report Share Posted 23 hours ago 10 minutes ago, Gambo95 said: Can look at meetings any way you like. Just looking at the 1st meeting program and updates for Saturday past. Dan scored 8 and r/r scored 8. Leon scored 5+1 and his rides scored 2+1 Craig scored 10 and r/r scored 7. Ben scored 6 and Sam scored 6. Looks like missing riders cancel each other out as Nagel not raced any away matches for Glasgow to judge his score on. Would say it would still have been close with both teams at full strength. Do you really think Leon would only score 5 again? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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