British Final Belle Vue Monday 12th May Live on TV

[Bojangles]

1 hour ago, ouch said:

PCMT

British Final

2 x GP

Play offs

League meetings both Aces & Colts

57 minutes ago, arnieg said:

In the absence of any data I would suggest the totals for the two tracks are quite similar and a case could be made for both of them. But they are both definitely well ahead of any other track.

It's an interesting thought....

NSS
PCMT
British Final
2xGP
Aces (league and playoffs)
Colts

Oxford Stadium
Ben Fund
Spires (league)
Cheetahs (BSN, league and playoffs)
Chargers

I think Oxford probably just shades it on the fact that the two Grand Prix and British Final would have to roughly equal all the Cheetahs league and BSN fixtures. But it's all hearsay really as attendance figures aren't announced.

Edited 15 hours ago by Bojangles

[SJA]

56 minutes ago, CoffeeandTV said:

Got any facts to back up that claim? Where is your source? I strongly suspect (but it's my opinion, not fact like you're claiming) that more people watch speedway at Oxford than at the NSS, considering they stage many more meetings and appear to have comparable crowds.

Glad it wasnt me thinking the same. I would also say on my experience Oxford, Poole and possibly Ipswich all appear to have larger crowds. 

[racers and royals]

19 minutes ago, Steve Shovlar said:

Completely forgot this event was taking place. Just watched it this morning. First impressions. Did they forget to advertise it? Virtually no one there. A real issue. Belle Vue have hosted the British Final for quite a few years now and clearly the locals don’t want it anymore. They simply can’t be arsed to come out. Time for the event to come further south or try a different venue.

But countering that was the racing last night which was excellent, and ended in a final which was top drawer. There’s no doubt that the track is the best in the UK, but if fans don’t come out what’s the point? Are we going to be embarrassed by a really small crowd at GP this summer? I hope not but let’s hope it’s not a repeat of the empty stands we saw there last year for the WTC or what ever it was called.

Thought it was Bewleys to lose but Lambert had other ideas and won it well in the end. Great final. 

 

Have you been in the South Pole for the last 2 months and not seen the thread about the Belle Vue GP’s ?

latest i think is Saturday sold out and not many left for Friday.

[Fromafar]

This was a fantastic advert for the Sport, but the bottom line is the travelling support nowadays is just not there.Crowd levels at most tracks in Championship are in the hundreds not thousands majority of supporters are middle aged or older.Irrespective of race day or advertising the Stadium was never going to be anywhere near half full.Quite sure a lot of fans watched it on TV though.The glory days of GB speedway are long gone.

[Steve Shovlar]

53 minutes ago, racers and royals said:

Have you been in the South Pole for the last 2 months and not seen the thread about the Belle Vue GP’s ?

latest i think is Saturday sold out and not many left for Friday.

Sorry r&r had more important issues occupying my mind.

[PhilTheAce]

to much being said about the small crowd,  one small crowd in 8 years of the final being at belle vue, was always going to happen at some point, 

 

why would people travel to belle vue 4 weeks before they will be for the GPs.

 

im sure next season the numbers will be back higher for the british final with no GP at belle vue 

[Odds On]

16 hours ago, Rob B said:

Very warm and sunny

thank you.

[Odds On]

after watching the final last night and with the two GP's coming up at Belle Vue, I for one cannot wait, will be like a breath of fresh air compared to Cardiff.

[IainB]

11 minutes ago, PhilTheAce said:

why would people travel to belle vue 4 weeks before they will be for the GPs

im sure next season the numbers will be back higher for the british final with no GP at belle vue 

It needs to go back to a weekend staging to attract a crowd imo. I myself travelled up for the PCMT on a Monday night but have never been to a BF on a Monday, I did attend both weekend fixtures though... that's just me though.

Do you know something we don't? Is Buxton a runner for a GP?

 

[Odds On]

you would of thought every track/club in Britain would of promoted last nights event, very short sighted by those clubs who didn't.

[Daniel Smith]

21 minutes ago, PhilTheAce said:

im sure next season the numbers will be back higher for the british final with no GP at belle vue 

Why would there be no GP at the National Speedway Stadium in 2026??

Isn't it the only place to host a UK round 🤔

No other stadium is suitable 

[40-38]

8 minutes ago, Daniel Smith said:

Why would there be no GP at the National Speedway Stadium in 2026??

Isn't it the only place to host a UK round 🤔

No other stadium is suitable 

I can't wait for the 2026 British GP at Plymouth.

[stevebrum]

Great advert for British speedway last night.

The NSS delivered but the crowd was embarrassing.

Well done to Wright for getting the Wild Card. That final was insane.

Well done Lambo, easily the best British rider by miles. Well done champ. 

[topaz325]

2 hours ago, Steve Shovlar said:

Completely forgot this event was taking place. Just watched it this morning. First impressions. Did they forget to advertise it? Virtually no one there. A real issue. Belle Vue have hosted the British Final for quite a few years now and clearly the locals don’t want it anymore. They simply can’t be arsed to come out. Time for the event to come further south or try a different venue.

But countering that was the racing last night which was excellent, and ended in a final which was top drawer. There’s no doubt that the track is the best in the UK, but if fans don’t come out what’s the point? Are we going to be embarrassed by a really small crowd at GP this summer? I hope not but let’s hope it’s not a repeat of the empty stands we saw there last year for the WTC or what ever it was called.

Thought it was Bewleys to lose but Lambert had other ideas and won it well in the end. Great final. 

 

Virtually no one there......er a bit of a false report!

[ouch]

3 hours ago, CoffeeandTV said:

Sorry, I think you misunderstood the words 'facts' and 'source'. Got the attendance figures? I'd especially love to know those for the ones that haven't even taken place yet. Lol 

Sorry, no facts to back this up, just my opinion. Promoters don’t release attendances, much to the frustration to their fan base. I could no more prove the NSS plays out to more punters per season as I could prove it had more than Buxton in 2018. It’s just observation and opinion so I appreciate your point. 

[BobSpelta]

I travelled up with my daughter.  Such a fantastic track.  Obviously the track is a long way from existing other teams’ homes … but we were wondering why it doesn’t draw crowds from the local area - which is literally millions. Manchester people and associated towns and cities could all get there if they just knew about how great and value for money it is.   Think about all the students looking for something to do    Half price tickets, half price beer    It’s even centrally (ish) located.   I wonder if it was advertised around the  area  …. Is it ever   

On the other hand our biggest question last night was why Charles Wright  was getting two wild cards. Obviously it’s been the case that there’s one available for Cardiff but now we’ve got two SGPs.   Why isn’t one going to Bomber?   Well done Charles but I think a very good case could be made for giving the other to Chris Harris.    

[The Cheese]

That was an excellent meeting even before the final which was just unbelievable, I think you'll be waiting a long time to see another race like that. Credit to all 4 riders, it's a shame that one of them had to miss out on the podium.

Really disappointed for Harris, I didn't realise it had been so long since he made the top 3 until they mentioned it. Would love to see him win one more before he finally calls it a day. 

Not a fan of losing Cardiff but can't deny that the prospect of having 2 GPs on this track is very exciting. 

[ABS]

5 hours ago, ouch said:

 

More people watch speedway at the NSS during the season than at any other venue so to lay the blame of a sparse crowd at our feet is very unfair. This is the first time in ten years that the crowd has been disappointing and there are circumstances that have resulted in this. The travelling fans who don’t turn up anymore I remember coach’s from all clubs for the BLRC at Hyde Rd or a Coventry British Final but now pretty much nothing. It’s not just about travelling fans though as local fans from other clubs won’t support an individual meeting like this or the PCMT. If they did then other clubs would run such an event. 
Speedway just isn’t popular anymore and thats the cruel reality for us. People say advertise but we have done it all over the years - you name it we have done it. Even people who know about speedway don’t attend as they don’t like it enough and thus pick and choose.
Anyway, what an awesome nights racing and a fabulous final. That should be the benchmark for ALL venues. Forget tinkering with the rules or mucking about with fancy suits and bike covers etc. Sort out the racing and I for one would be parting with my money at away tracks as I’ve done in the past and I’m not alone. Gate ’n’ go is a killer for an exciting sport like ours. Sort it out!

 

[PhilTheAce]

2 hours ago, Daniel Smith said:

Why would there be no GP at the National Speedway Stadium in 2026??

Isn't it the only place to host a UK round 🤔

No other stadium is suitable 

OK, worded wrong, at the moment its only a 1 year deal, hopefully it will be signed to a multi year deal soon 

[ShanoXtra]

10 minutes ago, PhilTheAce said:

OK, worded wrong, at the moment its only a 1 year deal, hopefully it will be signed to a multi year deal soon 

Id have to agree that the GP should be staged there next year. It does have the best look and feel for a British SGP. Would Glasgow ever get considered? Never been nor watched any racing but I know they are holding the SGP2 qualification there… what’s the size of it in regards to attendance?

If anyone is interested in seeing the crowd levels at Ipswich v Lynn the. Go to YouTube on Ipswich speedway or British speedway just uploaded it (Adam Ellis and Thompson 5-1) and forward to 2:00 mark and they pan around the stadium.