Ipswich v Belle Vue 14/08

[mikebv]

I predicted 8 points for the bottom four at Sheffield but over estimated their capabilty level on a track that you needed to ride out wide in the dirt to have any chance..

Ipswich is much less intimidating and daunting, so will go again with eight points from them.. 

Cook 4, Blodorn 3, Zischke/Mulford 1 between them...(whoever gets third in heat two)..

The usual thirty from the top three off 15 rides, so 52 - 38...

[Roger Jacobs]

12 hours ago, ShanoXtra said:

Last night was point and case of that! Nobody wanted to attack the air fence from Belle Vue, Holder alluded to the fact he doesn’t like heat 13 when he had stiff competition and has to ride as wide as possible. 
Can I just add I personally think Bewley is the most likeable Brit we have, he is very down to earth and just feels like a guy who wants to get on his bike and push the limits, I think he has more about him than Kurtz who does give up more than Bewley or opts to not get involved, people give him a pass because of fighting for the world title but for me, Bewley gives more to Belle Vue and British Speedway. When Doyle hangs up his Kevlars I’d love to see Bewley down here (I know it won’t happen).

I reckon the best pass Monday night was Heat 5, when Kurtz drove off the inside of bend 4 to pass both Pickering and Morris. Not close-your-eyes-wall-of-death bravery, but well-calculated intelligent riding.

[ShanoXtra]

21 minutes ago, Roger Jacobs said:

I reckon the best pass Monday night was Heat 5, when Kurtz drove off the inside of bend 4 to pass both Pickering and Morris. Not close-your-eyes-wall-of-death bravery, but well-calculated intelligent riding.

Lidsey and Picko i remember how one race they were riding each other super hard inside outside and eventually Picko got it but at one point I thought they were coming off ! Good to watch though!

[GeneralMelchett]

10 hours ago, foreverblue said:

I think it will be a walk in the park. Kurtz won't gate, Zach can be good at Foxhall but is out of form. 54-36.

so a walk or not a walk is +4 points 😆

Lets see anyway, I look forward to it anyway nice weather and hopefully seeing 4 of the very best in the world ride!

[IainB]

14 hours ago, Gavan said:

This is how speedway is now all about fast engines and the skill set isn’t required as much 

Bike setup does appear to be more important than riding technique these days, you could argue that bike setup is also a skill but too often it appears to be down to a rider hitting a bit of luck with the setup and then honing in on it.

[mikebv]

1 hour ago, IainB said:

Bike setup does appear to be more important than riding technique these days, you could argue that bike setup is also a skill but too often it appears to be down to a rider hitting a bit of luck with the setup and then honing in on it.

Getting out of the gate first and staying there around the first two turns was always the priority...

With the acceleration the modern day engines bring, the width of the bends at many tracks, the tyres used, and the slick tracks, it is now even more required...

An example was Anders Rowe on Monday, he rode the inside to keep Kurtz behind and Holder, who was quicker than Kurtz, couldn't get passed as all followed the one inside line that was available...

Get out in front, make yourself as wide as possible entering the turns (at most tracks), and follow (again at most tracks), the one line to use and talent differential can be hugely negated...

Edited 11 hours ago by mikebv

[Siggytastic]

If the score is a draw after heat 15, do we have two superheats, one to see who wins on the night and one for the aggregate point?

[PhilTheAce]

5 minutes ago, Siggytastic said:

If the score is a draw after heat 15, do we have two superheats, one to see who wins on the night and one for the aggregate point?

dont worry about that, i can assure you there will be NO DRAW thursday. we will be lucky to get 25, let alone 45 😂

[ouch]

16 hours ago, Gavan said:

You are very strange 

 

Unfortunately the rest of your team (unless Lidsey traps) can only ride the home track and are vulnerable away …. This is how speedway is now all about fast engines and the skill set isn’t required as much 

 

 

It’s so frustration but you make a valid point. Looking at positions 2, 6 & 7 this season, they ride well at home but as you point out poor away. The difference in their collective home and away average is 2.07 and you are correct that this signifies their “one track pony” status. We don’t often agree but there is no getting away with the figures on the one. 

Edited 10 hours ago by ouch
Accuracy

[Aries]

Should be a routine three points but then again, I thought we’d comfortably overturn a six point deficit to dump Lynn out of the Cup and that never happened. 
 

46-44 will do. 

[Roger Jacobs]

On 8/12/2025 at 4:11 PM, ShanoXtra said:

That’s mad, a rider who signed for you officially at the start of the season, mapped his whole season for you and sorted travelling out and equipment plus mechanics etc isn’t allowed to come back when fit, there should be a break clause in the deal allowing him to return when required in my opinion.

Part of Regulation 10.3: 

“In the Premiership and Championship Leagues a rider taken out of a team through injury cannot be re-declared in that team, within 28 days.”

This was introduced to stop teams from re-declaring “Willy-Nilly”, and also to be fair to whoever was brought in to replace them - hence the replacement has become known as being on a 28-Day deal.

To be fair to the Witches, Jenkins had a nasty injury and it wasn’t clear how long he might be out.

Edited 3 hours ago by Roger Jacobs

[Aries]

27 minutes ago, Roger Jacobs said:

Part of Regulation 10.3: 

“In the Premiership and Championship Leagues a rider taken out of a team through injury cannot be re-declared in that team, within 28 days.”

This was introduced to stop teams from re-declaring “Willy-Nilly”, and also to be fair to whoever was brought in to replace them - hence the replacement has become known as being on a 28-Day deal.

To be fair to the Witches, Jenkins had a nasty injury and it wasn’t clear how long he might be out.

And they had to move quickly when he became available before he got snapped up elsewhere and then left us in a vulnerable position at number 7.