Belle Vue -V- Ipswich POSF leg 1

[Steve Irving]

1 hour ago, mikebv said:

Really?

Four of the six points lead came from a Blodorn and Mulford 5-1..

Let that sink in....

Beating Danny King!!!

As I say, the Aces are a four man team, with three of the worst riders left in the competition making up the septet...

And still, you couldn't beat them, even with a recent British Champion at reserve!!!

Dan T is sadly exposed at second string away from home, (apart from Leicester maybe?) and Adam Ellis needs to do the job Dan T did when at reserve (covering the middle order)..

Danny King, as we know, can have horrible nights, especially when the pressure is on, and if Dan T and Ellis are not on it, then that pressure will 100% be on him..

From being a "shoe in" for the title, I now think both the Lions and the Tigers will be fancying their chances massively against the Witches..

 

 

You’re making absolutely no sense here whatsoever. “Still couldn’t beat them”? Well neither Sheffield or Leicester have beaten Belle Vue there either have they? And yet according to you, because of tonight’s result they’ll now fancy their chances? You seem very confused and to be honest, a bit bitter. 
 

Neither Sheffield OR Leicester will be fancying their chances. They’ll be second favourites in the final and they’ll know that full well. 

[Bagpuss]

2 hours ago, Col said:

KIngs Lynn were never making the playoffs with that septet!

I'm convinced 'that septet' would have done in the end but for Cook's broken wrist.

[cowboy cookie returns?]

Ipswich need to get off to a good start on Thursday. 
 

Kurtz & Mulford both had good heat wins at Ipswich last time out.

we cannot afford to have a opening 6 heats like we did against Lynn in the cup or Sheffield last week.

Game on let’s see what happens.

Doyle alluded in his interview that Ipswich would rough it up & go & play on Thursday.

[gjcone44]

On 9/5/2025 at 6:01 PM, gjcone44 said:

I'm not that confident, dont think we will get a big enough lead at home,

more or less what i expected, lost our chance to get a bigger lead in the 1st 7 heats, Doyle is a proper team man and can do what is needed when the chips are down., cook better than i thought and lidsey worse, Mulford and zichskie, as expected, cant fault bewley or Kurtz for their effort, and blodorn the less said the better. its not gonna happen at Ipswich. hopefully 2 better meetings in other semi.

[Roger Jacobs]

Much better result for the Witches than feared after last Thursday's non-performance.

Lemon's obsession with Zischke is fascinating - always seeming to favour him over Mulford, even though the young Brit is just as likely to produce at least one good ride per meeting (and has a higher average).

[foreverblue]

50 minutes ago, gjcone44 said:

more or less what i expected, lost our chance to get a bigger lead in the 1st 7 heats, Doyle is a proper team man and can do what is needed when the chips are down., cook better than i thought and lidsey worse, Mulford and zichskie, as expected, cant fault bewley or Kurtz for their effort, and blodorn the less said the better. its not gonna happen at Ipswich. hopefully 2 better meetings in other semi.

Zach was terrific, Lidsey very up and down, he may have had bike issues, Mulford, Blodorn and Zische just are not that good, Bewley was incredible, Kurtz was good but Doyle was amazing, what a rider at his age, Emil and Danny King were poor, Ipswich reserves were very good.

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[Chrisdonnelly]

Kept hold of norick, lidsey & tate way too long this season. 

Mulford does whats expected and chips in. 

Lidsey imo has never looked comfortable in the uk. No idea why lemo keeps signing him. Looks quick when out of the gate at nss but no desire to mix it like brady,cook,bewley. Away form is woeful at best.

Norick hasnt improved over the seasons we've had him & tate needed a season to get his confedence back 

 

 

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[blue witch]

12 hours ago, THE DEAN MACHINE said:

Putting the price up £2, when will British speedway learn 

No don't blame British speedway this is all on Mike Lemon. The other teams haven't put up prices just BV. I'm glad the crowd was small trying to rip off the fans

[bellevueace]

8 hours ago, Col said:

Well... Jason Doyle on the exit from turn 2 with a motorbike wasn't a Cluedo tonight... I'll take that.

Kings Lynn were never making the playoffs with that septet!  No #1 ..two past it but entertaining (can't gate) former GP riders & the enigma that is R,3,2,0,R Kilndt.

At one stage it looked as if they could push us and they were unlucky to lose at the NSS being the better side over the whole meeting, 2 points down going into heat 15 our top two got us out of jail, if they did have a bonafide No1 it would have been even more interesting.

[Eagle77]

If the real Kurtz and Bewley turn up on Thursday it could still be close... if they can get 24 between them the other 5 only need 19... which could be done if either Cook or Lidsey can have a night out...

And if that happens...

All down to Danny King in heat 8 last night... should hang his head in shame... and let's not forget that this is the second time he's done it...

Brennan and Doyle certainly showed him up big time in the following heats showing real heart and bottle in what looked on paper like tough ones for Ipswich...

 

 

 

[bellevueace]

8 hours ago, Arch Stanton said:

Yes, really. It’s clear what you’re trying to do here Mike and it isn’t working. The result isn’t what you were hoping for tonight, and it’s obviously stung a little.

No. What I’m saying is nobody was tipping Ipswich to win this meeting, unless I missed it? And yet now Mike is saying we should have pi$$ed it because you’re so cr@p. We were all told ad nauseam that the only reason you lost in the very first meeting, was because you “always start slow every year and get caught cold”. The two league meetings since were a draw (when you weren’t at full strength), and a 14 point home win which was more typical of an Ipswich performance at the NSS in recent years.

I didnt think Ipswich would win but would keep it within 10 at worst, Blodorn and the reserves have been poor all season and with Dan and Brady in heats 13 and 15 we always had a get out of jail card as we saw against Kings Lynn at the NSS who overall were the better side going into heat 15 only two points down. Ipswich didnt ride well last night, Emil was off it King wasnt good, and Thompson didnt do as well as i thought but it was still only a 6 point advantage, for a team who are supposed to have such a large home advantage it wasnt good from our point of view, we were always the weakest of the four in the play offs and we paid the price for not changing things around. Ipswich are just a better all round side as will be underlined on Thursday. Its going to be interesting between Ipswich, Sheffield and Leicester though.

[IainB]

32 minutes ago, blue witch said:

No don't blame British speedway this is all on Mike Lemon. The other teams haven't put up prices just BV. I'm glad the crowd was small trying to rip off the fans

Mark Lemon does seem a strange appointment to be CEO of Belle Vue Speedway, I'm not sure what his qualifications are or business experience is?

[bellevueace]

8 hours ago, stevebrum said:

Probably as expected. The Witches even not on full form can still push the weakest team in the play offs to a last heat decider. The Aces bottom 4 have been awful for most of the season. The reserves could have been changed before Tates average dropped to give them at least a better chance. Lemons faith in the reserves has cost them big time.

The witches still have to do the job on Thursday and of course anything can happpen and the Aces have been able to step up under pressure in past play offs.

Given that some Aces fans have already given up after tonight 🙄 I suppose they will be telling us to write us off at your peril if they pull it back.

Lets face it it will be a huge shock if they do progress. 

Agree with your points but if we pull this back it will more to do with Ipswich having a choke of massive proportions more than write Belle Vue off at your peril.

[arnieg]

49 minutes ago, Chrisdonnelly said:

Kept hold of norick, lidsey & tate way too long this season. 

Mulford does whats expected and chips in. 

Lidsey imo has never looked comfortable in the uk. No idea why lemo keeps signing him. Looks quick when out of the gate at nss but no desire to mix it like brady,cook,bewley. Away form is woeful at best.

Norick hasnt improved over the seasons we've had him & tate needed a season to get his confedence back 

 

 

Is that the rider who has increased his GSA by over a point this season? Who scored 7 or more in 13 consecutive matches prior to KL away? Who has the 11th= best away average in the league this year?

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[bellevueace]

8 hours ago, ShanoXtra said:

Imagine being poor all season but hanging on to the hope that “these are only qualifiers” and “we know Belle Vue turn up in the play offs” oh dear oh dear. Only a 6 point lead.

All jokes aside, I still am fearful we will do something stupid like rely on King to get points and he ends up with 2 points and all of a sudden it’s squeaky bum time!

They were only qualifiers and the four who qualified were known from the start, but we were never going to trouble the other three over two legs, i was surprised some Witches fans were actually worried about last night.

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[bellevueace]

8 hours ago, ShanoXtra said:

Imagine being poor all season but hanging on to the hope that “these are only qualifiers” and “we know Belle Vue turn up in the play offs” oh dear oh dear. Only a 6 point lead.

All jokes aside, I still am fearful we will do something stupid like rely on King to get points and he ends up with 2 points and all of a sudden it’s squeaky bum time!

Double post

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[bellevueace]

18 minutes ago, IainB said:

Mark Lemon does seem a strange appointment to be CEO of Belle Vue Speedway, I'm not sure what his qualifications are or business experience is?

The Sir Jim Ratcliffe of speedway 😲

[GeneralMelchett]

14 minutes ago, bellevueace said:

The Sir Jim Ratcliffe of speedway 😲

Not quite sure what people are getting at here, BV have won 2 of the last 4 titles 🙃 plus they are still in the competition for 2025!

[Odds On]

How refreshing that the best rider on show last night was a Englishman, absolutely brilliant. Ipswich are in the box seat, will have to be a different Belle Vue team turn up for them to progress.

[Arch Stanton]

1 hour ago, bellevueace said:

At one stage it looked as if they could push us and they were unlucky to lose at the NSS being the better side over the whole meeting, 2 points down going into heat 15 our top two got us out of jail, if they did have a bonafide No1 it would have been even more interesting.

But if they did have a “bonafide No1” rather than a 6 point number 1, they wouldn’t then have had a 6 point reserve either. You cant just chuck a top line number 1 on top of the strength in depth strategy they went with.