TigerIain Posted Tuesday at 11:20 PM Report Share Posted Tuesday at 11:20 PM 56 minutes ago, SteveLyric2 said: It's publicised well enough amongst those directly attending and those that have to make the decisions - just like any Limited Company. 18 minutes ago, 1 valve said: You may think it’s not good enough but the realty is that in the UK speedway is run as a business by the people who will be attending the AGM. You/we are customers of the people who run companies who will be attending the AGM - and if you don’t like what they decide on what they think is best for the sport the don’t support it. Meanwhile they will continue to try to get things right at their expense ….. and suffer the consequences ! I should hope that it is well publicised with the attendees! I just don't see what's the harm in letting fans know when it is, or when the outcomes will/might be known. What is decided at the conference impacts on everything for next season, even if the only outcome of a conference was 'everything is the same as agreed last year' would be newsworthy given that would be a first. I'm not asking for an invite or a live broadcast of the discussions, my point was that finding out the conference outcomes is of interest to many fans, I don't see the harm in telling fans when to expect an update. Plymouth announced yesterday that they will announce another signing on Friday. Scunthorpe announced in advance that they would be making an announcement (the signing of Pickering). It is not unusual these days for sports clubs to tell fans when news will be released. What would be your problem with saying the conference is on this date, we will let our fans know the outcomes that night, shortly thereafter, the next night or whatever timescale that you went to set? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted Wednesday at 08:33 AM Report Share Posted Wednesday at 08:33 AM 9 hours ago, TigerIain said: I should hope that it is well publicised with the attendees! I just don't see what's the harm in letting fans know when it is, or when the outcomes will/might be known. What is decided at the conference impacts on everything for next season, even if the only outcome of a conference was 'everything is the same as agreed last year' would be newsworthy given that would be a first. I'm not asking for an invite or a live broadcast of the discussions, my point was that finding out the conference outcomes is of interest to many fans, I don't see the harm in telling fans when to expect an update. Plymouth announced yesterday that they will announce another signing on Friday. Scunthorpe announced in advance that they would be making an announcement (the signing of Pickering). It is not unusual these days for sports clubs to tell fans when news will be released. What would be your problem with saying the conference is on this date, we will let our fans know the outcomes that night, shortly thereafter, the next night or whatever timescale that you went to set? The BSPL usually issue a statement of the main AGM outcomes by the next day, occasionally the same day!! Most - not all - people on forums such as this are generally quite negative, so to wait a day after decisions are ratified is more than acceptable imo. So let's look forward to 13th.. or the following week's Speedway Star. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aries Posted Wednesday at 09:42 AM Report Share Posted Wednesday at 09:42 AM 1 hour ago, SteveLyric2 said: The BSPL usually issue a statement of the main AGM outcomes by the next day, occasionally the same day!! Most - not all - people on forums such as this are generally quite negative, so to wait a day after decisions are ratified is more than acceptable imo. So let's look forward to 13th.. or the following week's Speedway Star. “Generally quite negative” That’s the understatement of the year! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marko Posted Wednesday at 02:33 PM Report Share Posted Wednesday at 02:33 PM It’s negative talk because anything else would be deluded, we are where we are and it always feels like those in charge say the right things, but then go and continue to do what they always do. If you always do what you always did, you will always get what you always got! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The White Knight Posted Wednesday at 04:30 PM Report Share Posted Wednesday at 04:30 PM 17 hours ago, SteelShoe said: you've just taken the negativity too a whole new level , I'm feeling really depressed now. 😩😃 Really sorry SteelShoe. I did not mean to depress you, but that is the way I see it, I'm afraid. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TB1 Posted Wednesday at 05:57 PM Report Share Posted Wednesday at 05:57 PM (edited) 18 hours ago, TigerIain said: I should hope that it is well publicised with the attendees! I just don't see what's the harm in letting fans know when it is, or when the outcomes will/might be known. What is decided at the conference impacts on everything for next season, even if the only outcome of a conference was 'everything is the same as agreed last year' would be newsworthy given that would be a first. I'm not asking for an invite or a live broadcast of the discussions, my point was that finding out the conference outcomes is of interest to many fans, I don't see the harm in telling fans when to expect an update. Plymouth announced yesterday that they will announce another signing on Friday. Scunthorpe announced in advance that they would be making an announcement (the signing of Pickering). It is not unusual these days for sports clubs to tell fans when news will be released. What would be your problem with saying the conference is on this date, we will let our fans know the outcomes that night, shortly thereafter, the next night or whatever timescale that you went to set? The worrying thing about clubs already signing riders is that we surely have to assume we are going to be served up more of the same unfortunately. Edited Wednesday at 05:58 PM by TB1 Spelling 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted Wednesday at 06:05 PM Report Share Posted Wednesday at 06:05 PM On 11/4/2025 at 11:10 AM, THE DEAN MACHINE said: Something that never gets mentioned about Poland and their huge pay structure is riders can also get huge fines/deductions from the clubs for sometimes the most innocuous reasons like mechanic wearing wrong team shirt at a match or not displaying PGE extraleague sticker on back door of van or whatever but one thing it does do is get 100% dedication from the riders, it gets discipline and as a result you get a product that has credibility Because most of their sponsors are not Speedway fans who fancy giving their favourite rider/club a few grand a season.... Instead, they are major companies who only want to associate with ventures that have similar values and professionalism to themselves... With, in Poland, it being very much a commercial decision to have their name shown rather than a "oh look my company name is on the telly!".. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1 valve Posted Wednesday at 10:49 PM Report Share Posted Wednesday at 10:49 PM 4 hours ago, TB1 said: The worrying thing about clubs already signing riders is that we surely have to assume we are going to be served up more of the same unfortunately. Not really. Riders contracts can be terminated without notice or compensation. The power is very much with the promoters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerIain Posted Thursday at 09:49 AM Report Share Posted Thursday at 09:49 AM On 11/5/2025 at 8:33 AM, SteveLyric2 said: The BSPL usually issue a statement of the main AGM outcomes by the next day, occasionally the same day!! Most - not all - people on forums such as this are generally quite negative, so to wait a day after decisions are ratified is more than acceptable imo. So let's look forward to 13th.. or the following week's Speedway Star. You've missed the point of what I was saying. I don't care how quickly the decisions are announced. My point was I am a little surprised that there isn't ever an announcement saying the conference outcomes will be announced on whatever date. It would be of interest to a lot of fans. Is not like there is a wealth of speedway news going on at this time of year anyway. Most Ltd Co's and most sports don't make such impactful changes every year as speedway does. So the conference outcomes are a big deal to most fans. As for people being negative, there is nothing that can be done regarding that. The date that you release info won't have that much impact on people's reaction to it. Also, you could post literally anything on the internet, and someone will object to it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TB1 Posted Thursday at 03:50 PM Report Share Posted Thursday at 03:50 PM 17 hours ago, 1 valve said: Not really. Riders contracts can be terminated without notice or compensation. The power is very much with the promoters. How so? Surely a contract is a contract and if you break the terms? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Son of Shaleman Posted Thursday at 07:38 PM Report Share Posted Thursday at 07:38 PM Not sure I understand Speedy Star story today. My interpretation is that Championship clubs will be 2026 league speedway in UK. Obviously, no doubling up/down which will hugely affect riders’ earnings. Anything on Premiership level greatly diminished. Guess that’s why top names going Danish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YeOldPitGate Posted Thursday at 08:19 PM Report Share Posted Thursday at 08:19 PM 40 minutes ago, Son of Shaleman said: Not sure I understand Speedy Star story today. My interpretation is that Championship clubs will be 2026 league speedway in UK. Obviously, no doubling up/down which will hugely affect riders’ earnings. Anything on Premiership level greatly diminished. Guess that’s why top names going Danish. So is it looking like a tiny premier league once home and away and then all four into the play offs ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE DEAN MACHINE Posted Thursday at 09:00 PM Report Share Posted Thursday at 09:00 PM (edited) 50 minutes ago, YeOldPitGate said: So is it looking like a tiny premier league once home and away and then all four into the play offs ? And that benifits who ? Not even the hard core fans of the top 5 teams want a league with 5 teams or even 6 teams if they could pull one out of the hat, roll on next Wednesday I can’t bare anymore rumours cause that’s all it is at the moment but I can’t help but feel next season is going to be awful for British speedway at the top level Edited Thursday at 09:10 PM by THE DEAN MACHINE 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FromBendThree Posted Thursday at 09:09 PM Report Share Posted Thursday at 09:09 PM (edited) 50 minutes ago, YeOldPitGate said: So is it looking like a tiny premier league once home and away and then all four into the play offs ? That’s my reading of speedway star too. Can’t think of alternatives Edited Thursday at 09:10 PM by FromBendThree Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cowboy cookie returns? Posted Thursday at 09:16 PM Report Share Posted Thursday at 09:16 PM 55 minutes ago, YeOldPitGate said: So is it looking like a tiny premier league once home and away and then all four into the play offs ? If that’s the case then surely the premier league sides have got to have 2nd teams in the championship?? Can’t run 3 home meetings a season Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YeOldPitGate Posted Thursday at 09:44 PM Report Share Posted Thursday at 09:44 PM 24 minutes ago, cowboy cookie returns? said: If that’s the case then surely the premier league sides have got to have 2nd teams in the championship?? Can’t run 3 home meetings a season No idea but this rumour of Northampton running at Oxford if true would be pure desperation that could be what someone said Buster was talking about that Prem bosses will have to pony up to make the top league happen maybe the potential promoter wants a big hand out to stem the losses. It might also be a case around the Fricke rumours that the leicester promoter is thinking need to cut the cloth next year , all guesswork but if no tv deal, some top men leaving lower points limit rumoured, less top league teams it certainly isn't looking great from trying to join the dots. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TB1 Posted Thursday at 10:03 PM Report Share Posted Thursday at 10:03 PM A question for anyone in the know. Is it reasonable to assume that with a much reduced premiership next year ( assuming of course). Is it possible that we may lose many top riders in the league as there will not be enough meetings for visa requirements? Just asking. Note: I asked this on the Ipswich thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gone Posted Thursday at 10:09 PM Report Share Posted Thursday at 10:09 PM More foreign riders in teams than brits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted Thursday at 10:15 PM Report Share Posted Thursday at 10:15 PM (edited) 16 minutes ago, TB1 said: A question for anyone in the know. Is it reasonable to assume that with a much reduced premiership next year ( assuming of course). Is it possible that we may lose many top riders in the league as there will not be enough meetings for visa requirements? Just asking. Note: I asked this on the Ipswich thread. There is a minimum earning level you must show you can achieve to get certain tier level visas .. I presume that is why some riders get/need guarantees? (And double up?)... Before I retired one of my team needed to show he earned (if I remember correctly) £41k to stay in the country... It had increased since his last visa got granted... So I put up his hours and let him work each Sunday for premium time... I then printed and signed copies of his contract for him to send off to the Government depts .. Edited Thursday at 10:20 PM by mikebv 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted Thursday at 10:40 PM Report Share Posted Thursday at 10:40 PM While we have to wait for outcome of 12th Nov. If half the rumours are founded. I don’t understand why there is not just one league at Championship Level.Going back to basics and rebuilding. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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