Belle Vue Aces 2026

[PhilTheAce]

5 hours ago, Neila said:

Rumours are 3 home 3 away meetings in the league, then the play offs. So imo very repetitive when only 4 teams will visit your home track. I know of several people at various premiership tracks, that won't be going to see all home meetings due to them visiting a minimum of 3 times 

I bet them same stay aways would attend every GP with the same 15 riders 

[THE DEAN MACHINE]

14 minutes ago, PhilTheAce said:

I bet them same stay aways would attend every GP with the same 15 riders 

Not quite the same though is it Phil, you know in your heart this premier league of 5 or even 6 is not enough and just for this year at least it should of been made to work as one big league 

[Neila]

18 minutes ago, Bagpuss said:

Out of interest if Workington raced against a team three times would you go to all of them?

But worky in a league of nine teams, if they raced the teams twice, would mean 10 weeks apart, but in premiership the team comes around again in 5 weeks then again in another 5 weeks time, too often imo

[Neila]

2 hours ago, ouch said:

If fans attend for two visits per team as they have done for decades then I think promotions will take it on the chin the fact that fans will give four fixtures a miss. With this year being very much make do and mend, it’s the best they could hope for imo. 

But if said persons missed 4 meetings £25 each 2 people so £200 lost, multiply that by saying 50 couples that a potential loss of £10k that's on top of normal losses for each meeting. Then potential sponsors won't come on board due to lack of TV. Sorry to say this but speedway is more fooked than usual 

[Bagpuss]

5 minutes ago, Neila said:

But worky in a league of nine teams, if they raced the teams twice, would mean 10 weeks apart, but in premiership the team comes around again in 5 weeks then again in another 5 weeks time, too often imo

Wouldn't necessarily if it was in three seperate competitions, the fixtures would be much closer than that.

Personally I go to see my team race, not particularly fussed who its against although of course a league of five or six is far from ideal. Two leagues of eight has been mentioned for 2027 and that would be a far better situation.

[FishersGate]

Anyone defending 3 home 3 away with the play offs is part of the problem. It's a shambles and I shall not spend a penny on it.

[ouch]

1 hour ago, gjcone44 said:

what things can be set in motion in 2027. with the 2 league's and teams we have now, that will be different to 26. ?

More notice period for teams moving up/down.

Early knowledge of league structures to negate riders looking elsewhere for their income. 

Teams and meeting formats to suit the rider pool available. 

Competitions outside of the current league set up. 

There’s many operational knock ons associated with above and that’s just stuff off the top of my head right now. 

[ouch]

24 minutes ago, THE DEAN MACHINE said:

Not quite the same though is it Phil, you know in your heart this premier league of 5 or even 6 is not enough and just for this year at least it should of been made to work as one big league 

Every time our sport takes a step back, that becomes the new normal from which to work backwards from. Rarely if ever does it step back, regroup and move forward. It just moves further back. 

[ouch]

24 minutes ago, Neila said:

But worky in a league of nine teams, if they raced the teams twice, would mean 10 weeks apart, but in premiership the team comes around again in 5 weeks then again in another 5 weeks time, too often imo

Starting in March the play offs would be in June. Clubs don’t run weekly speedway. It’s more like fortnightly meetings meaning the same club would be back in eight weeks time following its previous visit. 

[ouch]

17 minutes ago, FishersGate said:

Anyone defending 3 home 3 away with the play offs is part of the problem. It's a shambles and I shall not spend a penny on it.

Never could I defend the play offs nor a division where teams meet 5 home 5 away. 

[PhilTheAce]

25 minutes ago, FishersGate said:

Anyone defending 3 home 3 away with the play offs is part of the problem. It's a shambles and I shall not spend a penny on it.

It's all about just getting through this year. All clubs taking a year away from racing was not an option because it's never just one year away is it. 

 

Things would have been easier if championship would have accepted the prem teams but they didn't want us. 

 

For the first time they actually reached the cross roads and they now need to make that decision for 2027. Go left or go right. 

Edited 5 hours ago by PhilTheAce

[Fromafar]

5 minutes ago, PhilTheAce said:

It's all about just getting through this year. All clubs taking a year away from racing was not an option because it's never just one year away is it. 

 

Things would have been easier if championship would have accepted the prem teams but they didn't want us. 

 

For the first time they actually reached the cross roads and they now need to make that decision for 2027. Go left or go right. 

Think the Championsip would have accepted Premiership on their Terms.( why wouldn’t they)

[dontforgetthefueltapsbruv]

7 minutes ago, Fromafar said:

Think the Championsip would have accepted Premiership on their Terms.( why wouldn’t they)

So you're saying they wouldve been happy if it was best for them, even if it wasn't for others and potentially not the best for the sport overall....

[BluPanther]

12 minutes ago, Fromafar said:

Think the Championsip would have accepted Premiership on their Terms.( why wouldn’t they)

The championship clubs closed that door before any discussion even took place. CL's proposal one league with 6 man teams for 2026 should at least have been explored, but once again, self interest prevailed...

[Fromafar]

5 minutes ago, dontforgetthefueltapsbruv said:

So you're saying they wouldve been happy if it was best for them, even if it wasn't for others and potentially not the best for the sport overall....

I’m just saying why would the Championship reject Premiership Teams if it was on Championship Terms.As @Phil the Ace hinted that the Championship didn’t want them.The Sport is a shambles,obviously Sheffield and Ipswich situation made it even worse.Why did Louis throw in the towel.( what was the REAL reason).Not a word to the Ipswich supporters on the subject is pretty poor all round.Sheffield is just as bad trying to play call my bluff with the sport.

 

[old bob at herne bay]

10 minutes ago, PhilTheAce said:

It's all about just getting through this year. All clubs taking a year away from racing was not an option because it's never just one year away is it. 

 

Things would have been easier if championship would have accepted the prem teams but they didn't want us. 

 

For the first time they actually reached the cross roads and they now need to make that decision for 2027. Go left or go right. 

Sadly you could say that about British Speedway for the past several years .... "always going to be fixed next season". Maybe this AGM  in January 2026 really is  "THE MOST IMPORTANT IN THE HISTORY OF THE SPORT" to quote the regular old chestnut trotted out in the Speedway satr to try and sell a few more copies. 

Dont think it is unfair to say the "one big league" has been suggested for a few seasons now - but what did the clever boys in charge do .... they started  "doubling up" "doubling down" under some misguided belief that it would help riders progression. 

It has just developed into a money earning stunt for the mediocre riders and  separated the 2 leagues further apart , making it nigh on impossible for teams to move up or down ... with so many doubling up riders. Sooperstars carried on regardless, and rabbits enjoyed the "rising star" charade.  

This also makes amalgamation nigh on impossible with the loss of sooperstars plus the loss of many doubling up riders who might just retire with only one teams income (albeit more meetings per season.) 

None of which solves the minor issue of getting MORE people through the turnstiles, something that has been continually overlooked !!

     

[Fromafar]

1 hour ago, BluPanther said:

The championship clubs closed that door before any discussion even took place. CL's proposal one league with 6 man teams for 2026 should at least have been explored, but once again, self interest prevailed...

Maybe the fans would liked a wee  look at proposed new set up.Just to see what was knocked back.(After all we do pay admission money to watch.)

[mikebv]

2 hours ago, PhilTheAce said:

I bet them same stay aways would attend every GP with the same 15 riders 

Like chalk and cheese though...

One has jeopardy, consequence, relevance,  resonance, credibilty, and delivers a reasonable level of publicity and financial reward...

And the other, which delivers none of the above, is British Speedway...

Fans stay away from the POQ's because, well, without being too harsh, the whole shebang isn't too far short of being meaningless...

Other than to provide  riders, and some promoters and managers, with another job, and other promoters an expensive hobby to spend a budgeted amount of money on...

[ouch]

The nine championship teams finished this season with a total average of 377.61. It’s been well documented that the five premiership teams aren’t bringing any riders with them as the top liners would skip the UK and the rest are already riding in the championship. To fill those 35 vacant spots  would require using new (to the championship) NDL riders who average around 2.50, so thats a total of 87.50 to add to the pot. 465.11 divided by the 14 one big league teams gives a team total of 33.22. To create some kind of bargaining power when negotiating rider terms the limit would be set lower than that and most probably be around 30.

Would championship clubs have wanted to water down their teams just to accommodate the ex premiership teams and how would they have felt letting riders whom they had agreed a verbal contract that there was no longer a place for them?  The option of five or six man teams doesn’t sugar the pill either. Once you understand that one big league is unworkable with just 3/4 months to sort it out then the only alternative is what we have. Digging your feet in and saying I’m not supporting that doesn’t help whatsoever but then this has been going on for decades. 

Me, I’m just happy to enjoy that sixty seconds of excitement and I’m not bothered about the score nor what the competition is just that race, wether it’s U16, NDL, Aces or GP’s at the NSS. 

[dontforgetthefueltapsbruv]

3 hours ago, Fromafar said:

I’m just saying why would the Championship reject Premiership Teams if it was on Championship Terms.As @Phil the Ace hinted that the Championship didn’t want them.The Sport is a shambles,obviously Sheffield and Ipswich situation made it even worse.Why did Louis throw in the towel.( what was the REAL reason).Not a word to the Ipswich supporters on the subject is pretty poor all round.Sheffield is just as bad trying to play call my bluff with the sport.

 

I suppose that depends on how reasonable (or othewise) the Championship terms were.....