THE DEAN MACHINE Posted February 20 Report Share Posted February 20 2 hours ago, mikebv said: A baffling comment that Matt Ford made in his SS interview was that Poland could pay riders half of what they do and the riders would still be very well paid.... Thus, by paying riders less it would reduce the gap between the UK salary and Poland's... Therefore, making the UK salary more attractive to some riders... Maybe just paying riders what you can afford to pay them, is the more simpler idea? And, if they don't want to ride for that money, ask someone else who will.... Another interesting bit in the star about wages was Poland are trying to introduce a wage cap and if it gets in as an example Jason Doyle’s deal would of been deemed illegal along with a few others like vaculik , Thompsen and pawlicki’s and half of tarnow team Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post THE DEAN MACHINE Posted February 20 Popular Post Report Share Posted February 20 1 minute ago, Roger Jacobs said: John Louis once told me that he gave up putting on second half "junior" races, because he was fed up with making phone calls, and the first questions was: "How much do you pay?" ... JL was 28 when he started riding speedway, and spent his first efforts just turning up and asking if he could get a ride, and still riding for nothing when he was asked back. I suppose I could of asked for more money but I didn’t really care, I just wanted to race speedway, the privilege of being part of a team was for me what speedway was all about, it always made me more determined to beat whoever it was if I knew they were on a good screw from their team, I think I was one of the lowest paid riders ever to race for 21 years but not only did I achieve my lifetime ambition I also did alright for myself so looking back what else could I ask for in life 11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biffa Posted February 20 Report Share Posted February 20 36 minutes ago, THE DEAN MACHINE said: I suppose I could of asked for more money but I didn’t really care, I just wanted to race speedway, the privilege of being part of a team was for me what speedway was all about, it always made me more determined to beat whoever it was if I knew they were on a good screw from their team, I think I was one of the lowest paid riders ever to race for 21 years but not only did I achieve my lifetime ambition I also did alright for myself so looking back what else could I ask for in life And in that statement lies most of today’s problems. The youth know the price of everything & the value of nothing. Old school vision by myself maybe, or is it just a generation thing and they will be saying it in 20+years time 🤷♂️ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kieran22222 Posted February 20 Report Share Posted February 20 I am not sure the riders pay is the reason for the stadiums closing and there being no teams left. Most were kicked out because they weren't worth having there. Teams should have been smarter with their money about bought land/stadiums in the early sky years when they had money to burn. I still also think it should I have to one team per rider across all leagues (not just UK, but overall) and then introduced some continental meetings. This would have allowed all teams to race domestically on the weekends and allowed more room for TV deals and midweek racing against foreign clubs which would prevent against racing the same teams all the time. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BluPanther Posted February 20 Report Share Posted February 20 2 minutes ago, Kieran22222 said: I am not sure the riders pay is the reason for the stadiums closing and there being no teams left. Most were kicked out because they weren't worth having there. Teams should have been smarter with their money about bought land/stadiums in the early sky years when they had money to burn. I still also think it should I have to one team per rider across all leagues (not just UK, but overall) and then introduced some continental meetings. This would have allowed all teams to race domestically on the weekends and allowed more room for TV deals and midweek racing against foreign clubs which would prevent against racing the same teams all the time. Many promoters from the 70's onwards made a lot of money from speedway. Very few, if any, put some of that money into the future of their clubs or British speedway in general... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE DEAN MACHINE Posted February 20 Report Share Posted February 20 38 minutes ago, Kieran22222 said: I am not sure the riders pay is the reason for the stadiums closing and there being no teams left. Most were kicked out because they weren't worth having there. Teams should have been smarter with their money about bought land/stadiums in the early sky years when they had money to burn. I still also think it should I have to one team per rider across all leagues (not just UK, but overall) and then introduced some continental meetings. This would have allowed all teams to race domestically on the weekends and allowed more room for TV deals and midweek racing against foreign clubs which would prevent against racing the same teams all the time. Well it certainly had a lot of sway in Birminghams plight, they were paying more than they should of to riders and obviously hindsight is a great thing but after the season’s performances it turned out they were paying way more, there were times last season when some riders should of been paying the crowd to watch them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE DEAN MACHINE Posted February 20 Report Share Posted February 20 51 minutes ago, Biffa said: And in that statement lies most of today’s problems. The youth know the price of everything & the value of nothing. Old school vision by myself maybe, or is it just a generation thing and they will be saying it in 20+years time 🤷♂️ It is a generational thing but doesn’t make your observations wrong Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted February 20 Report Share Posted February 20 1 hour ago, THE DEAN MACHINE said: I suppose I could of asked for more money but I didn’t really care, I just wanted to race speedway, the privilege of being part of a team was for me what speedway was all about, it always made me more determined to beat whoever it was if I knew they were on a good screw from their team, I think I was one of the lowest paid riders ever to race for 21 years but not only did I achieve my lifetime ambition I also did alright for myself so looking back what else could I ask for in life You certainly gave 100% for Berwick,that’s all most fans wanted in them days.Nowadays 1 bad meeting and they want changes. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M.D Posted February 20 Report Share Posted February 20 6 minutes ago, THE DEAN MACHINE said: Well it certainly had a lot of sway in Birminghams plight, they were paying more than they should of to riders and obviously hindsight is a great thing but after the season’s performances it turned out they were paying way more, there were times last season when some riders should of been paying the crowd to watch them It was a massive issue under Ian Jordan at Eastbourne, I spoke with Chris Louis and he said Jordan was paying Richard Lawson more than he was at Ipswich, not that Jordan paid RL in full at the end.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE DEAN MACHINE Posted February 20 Report Share Posted February 20 2 minutes ago, Fromafar said: You certainly gave 100% for Berwick,that’s all most fans wanted in them days.Nowadays 1 bad meeting and they want changes. I loved it a Berwick, the fans made me feel like it was my home and it felt like a big family, it was 550mile round trip for home meetings but worth every mile and days I’ll never forget 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE DEAN MACHINE Posted February 20 Report Share Posted February 20 1 minute ago, M.D said: It was a massive issue under Ian Jordan at Eastbourne, I spoke with Chris Louis and he said Jordan was paying Richard Lawson more than he was at Ipswich, not that Jordan paid RL in full at the end.. I sort of understand riders wanting bigger and bigger deals because unfortunately most come into the sport with the mentality of it’s my living and I don’t blame them for that, if anyone is at fault it’s the sport feeding that illusion to them but for me it wasn’t my living it was my dream and I lived it 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted February 20 Report Share Posted February 20 5 hours ago, IainB said: ... a cut back, reduced NDL! An obvious solution to the UK rider shortage... Well, it is in keeping with so many other great ideas.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tyler42 Posted February 20 Report Share Posted February 20 7 hours ago, BluPanther said: Many promoters from the 70's onwards made a lot of money from speedway. Very few, if any, put some of that money into the future of their clubs or British speedway in general... So what did the promotors in the late 90s through till last season do with the tv money? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YeOldPitGate Posted February 21 Report Share Posted February 21 11 hours ago, tyler42 said: So what did the promotors in the late 90s through till last season do with the tv money? The general impression is the number one's at the time hoovered up most of it and once the trough was empty most decamped to new troughs in Poland. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted February 21 Report Share Posted February 21 11 hours ago, tyler42 said: So what did the promotors in the late 90s through till last season do with the tv money? Gave it to the No1's..... Who then, almost to a man,Foxtrot Oscared when the Sky deal ended... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ouch Posted February 21 Report Share Posted February 21 21 hours ago, mikebv said: Not at Dan's level yet!!! Is what you mean... Who knows though.... Keep practicing and you never know.... Edit. I've just told my mate that Ouch was taking up Speedway and that he doesn't think he will be as good as Dan.. He said "Who the eff are Ouch and Dan, and what the eff is Speedway?".. See. Already you are at Dan's level... Sorry for the late response as I’ve been working on merchandise. Currently available is a rather nice hernia belt and banded pile cream. Know your customers. Phil Morris has also made me the speed limiter the sport has for so long been talking about. Speedway - Fuelled by Gaviscon. Follow my adventures on Talking Pictures TV. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old bob at herne bay Posted February 21 Report Share Posted February 21 been away for a few weeks .... any nes on Ipswich new owners ??? Any team news ?? 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevin bass Posted February 21 Report Share Posted February 21 21 minutes ago, old bob at herne bay said: been away for a few weeks .... any nes on Ipswich new owners ??? Any team news ?? Um no and no, your not missed much, well actually nothing😒 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted February 21 Report Share Posted February 21 33 minutes ago, old bob at herne bay said: been away for a few weeks .... any nes on Ipswich new owners ??? Any team news ?? I believe there may be an update soon Bob... Telling us that there is going to be an update soon... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norbold Posted February 21 Report Share Posted February 21 (edited) Just seen the latest update from Ipswich. First Witch When shall Ipswich meet again In thunder, lightning, or in rain? Second Witch When the hurlyburly's done, When the battle's lost and won. Third Witch That will be ere the set of sun. First Witch Where the place? Second Witch Upon Foxhall Heath. ALL Fair is foul, and foul is fair: Hover through the fog and filthy air. Edited February 23 by norbold Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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