Hamish McRaker Posted 3 hours ago Report Share Posted 3 hours ago 2 minutes ago, 1 valve said: I mean. A group of promoters, the majority of whom promote Championship speedway. That said, “Cartel” is a very strong term to use. Maybe more accurate to use “hobbyists” who’s preference is to keep to the way things are run because that protects their involvement to a low level of risk whilst fulfilling their egos. So in your opinion, which clubs are being run by hobbyists? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted 1 hour ago Report Share Posted 1 hour ago 5 hours ago, Neila said: The fans forum ? What ever happened to that ?? Heard at the start about setting one up, then as far as I'm aware radio silence ever since 🤔 Happy clapper echo chamber?? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kieran22222 Posted 1 hour ago Report Share Posted 1 hour ago On 4/5/2026 at 11:04 PM, flagrag said: Even for 2026, Phil has been a great advocate for British Speedway Premiership and has done lots of work behind the scenes which most people simply do not see. Always knowing that his role of Chief executive wasn’t to continue this year due to lack of money He was instrumental in keeping Ipswich going including being part of a consortium that made an offer to keep it going if Mayfield deal had fallen through. Has also had a a lot to do with the opening of Northampton giving guidance of what was required to get Speedway running along with being involved in the negotiations with stadium owners and management . There has been some failures previously maybe the loss of TV deal being the greatest but he did explore various options but none could be got over the line for various reasons. It has not been helped by some promotions not backing him fully. He wanted to modernise the product to try to get in new fans and sponsors some of which cost money like for tv meetings having a set presentation team and DJ, Lights and fire cannons on centre field but certain promotions wouldn’t back this and could even be objective like refusing to move advertising A boards for tv meetings and not even keeping the league sponsorship ones clean. Phil was also key to a number of top names returning to the UK like Woofy , Janowski and Lindgren along with brokering deals for Lambert and Dudek to ride for clubs to then back down on the deals Can you share who pulled out of signing lambert and dudek? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Sidney Posted 1 hour ago Report Share Posted 1 hour ago 3 minutes ago, dontforgetthefueltapsbruv said: Happy clapper echo chamber?? Certainly not 'happy clapper's as you put it. Plenty of constructive ideas and business contacts were put forward. Much constructive criticism and suggested solutions also supplied, mirroring quite a lot that is put forward on here. One thing I would say, having looked at some of the suggestions and comments in response, is there is a lot of disagreement between fans on what to do. Having been to Poland last year, and having seen the atmosphere created by the drumming and chanting section of the crowd, I tentatively suggested trying that here - to be told by one fan that if I brought a drum near him then he would shove the drumsticks inside me though an opening ( and it wasn't down my throat). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kieran22222 Posted 1 hour ago Report Share Posted 1 hour ago 1 minute ago, Sir Sidney said: Certainly not 'happy clapper's as you put it. Plenty of constructive ideas and business contacts were put forward. Much constructive criticism and suggested solutions also supplied, mirroring quite a lot that is put forward on here. One thing I would say, having looked at some of the suggestions and comments in response, is there is a lot of disagreement between fans on what to do. Having been to Poland last year, and having seen the atmosphere created by the drumming and chanting section of the crowd, I tentatively suggested trying that here - to be told by one fan that if I brought a drum near him then he would shove the drumsticks inside me though an opening ( and it wasn't down my throat). Let me guess the fan was 60 plus and wanted speedway to go back to the good old days 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
therefused Posted 1 hour ago Report Share Posted 1 hour ago 30 minutes ago, Kieran22222 said: Can you share who pulled out of signing lambert and dudek? id imagine it was the other way around and the riders backed out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rearingtogo Posted 1 hour ago Report Share Posted 1 hour ago 2 minutes ago, therefused said: id imagine it was the other way around and the riders backed out. Demands too expensive Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted 30 minutes ago Report Share Posted 30 minutes ago (edited) 2 hours ago, Hamish McRaker said: So in your opinion, which clubs are being run by hobbyists? For me, "the hobbyists" are those who, year in, year out, are quite happy to lose a budgeted amount of money... League position, and aspirational growth of their club and sport, has little meaning for them, just getting to the end of the season "within budget" is their sole ambition.. Usually ex riders or ex sponsors of retired riders, who come into promoting, replacing someone with a similar background, and just enter the "Speedway Bubble Echo Chamber" knowing no different, so just carry on doing the same old, same old that has been the way "for a long, long time"... Ensuring riders get plenty of rides is an aim for some of them, given many will be mates of current riders, and, with many being ex riders themselves, they will have a certain level of empathy for those who ride the bikes... However if by doing this it mpacts the credibility, prestige or authenticity of the sport, it doesn't really matter, hence doubling up and guesting is rife, without any aim to stop either... Which all means that UK Speedway looks more like a "Gentlemen's Club" than a bona fide professional team sport, with many within it, I would imagine, enjoying more the social aspect of being in charge of their clubs, without needing the pressure of leading a "proper" professional sport, that has jeopardy, consequence, and high rewards , but, inevitably, the high pressure that comes with it.. Rinse and Repeat Ad Infinitum... Edited 22 minutes ago by mikebv Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ouch Posted 19 minutes ago Report Share Posted 19 minutes ago You could come up with a formula that provided excellent exciting racing surrounded by an enjoyable race night experience at a price point fans where happy with in a packed stadium and all the other utopian ideals in place but in speedway if it came from a team or person you didn’t like, holes would soon be picked however invalid they may be and the whole thing would fall apart or not get off the ground to start with. Petty bias is the underlying issue with this sport where competition spills off the track, into the boardroom and onto the terraces. An independent body would be fine as long as it’s your independent body and the pushback against those who’s face doesn’t fit no matter how fine their ideas is alarming and sole destroying for a sport that is absolutely required to work together. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted 6 minutes ago Report Share Posted 6 minutes ago 20 minutes ago, mikebv said: For me, "the hobbyists" are those who, year in, year out, are quite happy to lose a budgeted amount of money... League position, and aspirational growth of their club and sport, has little meaning for them, just getting to the end of the season "within budget" is their sole ambition.. Usually ex riders or ex sponsors of retired riders, who come into promoting, replacing someone with a similar background, and just enter the "Speedway Bubble Echo Chamber" knowing no different, so just carry on doing the same old, same old that has been the way "for a long, long time"... Ensuring riders get plenty of rides is an aim for some of them, given many will be mates of current riders, and, with many being ex riders themselves, they will have a certain level of empathy for those who ride the bikes... However if by doing this it mpacts the credibility, prestige or authenticity of the sport, it doesn't really matter, hence doubling up and guesting is rife, without any aim to stop either... Which all means that UK Speedway looks more like a "Gentlemen's Club" than a bona fide professional team sport, with many within it, I would imagine, enjoying more the social aspect of being in charge of their clubs, without needing the pressure of leading a "proper" professional sport, that has jeopardy, consequence, and high rewards , but, inevitably, the high pressure that comes with it.. Rinse and Repeat Ad Infinitum... Would tend to agree,also being back up by Generous Supporter Club Donations by loyal speedway fans. problem being if they decide they have had enough it’s hard to say where the sport will end up.Most of said Promotions are knocking on in years. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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