H20 Posted 4 hours ago Report Share Posted 4 hours ago This whole incident was how not to run a sport. I was watching the stream and the angle definately backed the referee's original call and it should have stayed that way. The way it unfolded was embarassing to say the least, even the phone footage made it a 50 50 call as you could say Cook was leading and Battye should not have gone for a pass that was not on which to me was what Jackobson did trying to go around Battye on that same turn. It's a big manouve to try and pass around the outside at Berwick and pull it off that high. Greg should still have been no where near the box to be in a position to show the referee anything but as for Willie to actually watch it well I still can not belive he did never mind then change his already made announcement. Was not going to change the meeting much as Berwick were fantastic out of the gate espesially prior to ht9 but was still wrong. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted 4 hours ago Report Share Posted 4 hours ago 13 minutes ago, H20 said: This whole incident was how not to run a sport. I was watching the stream and the angle definately backed the referee's original call and it should have stayed that way. The way it unfolded was embarassing to say the least, even the phone footage made it a 50 50 call as you could say Cook was leading and Battye should not have gone for a pass that was not on which to me was what Jackobson did trying to go around Battye on that same turn. It's a big manouve to try and pass around the outside at Berwick and pull it off that high. Greg should still have been no where near the box to be in a position to show the referee anything but as for Willie to actually watch it well I still can not belive he did never mind then change his already made announcement. Was not going to change the meeting much as Berwick were fantastic out of the gate espesially prior to ht9 but was still wrong. It doesn’t matter which Team you support it was pretty poor situation all round.IMO.Dishington should be reprimanded for his handling of it.Thats Speedway though.👎 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPEEDY69 Posted 4 hours ago Report Share Posted 4 hours ago I haven't seen any of the meeting, just reading comments on here but I'm not particularly a fan of video replays. Plenty of contact is made in the sport but much of this is not enough to create a fall but unfortunately I think replays encourage riders to do exactly that as they know they'll get back in the re-run. I've seen it so many times, from Harris in a British Final to Nicki P & Hans A in GPs. Those who choose to stay on, as they should, can feel aggrieved but to fall on purpose risks injury to self and others. There shouldn't need to be a fall for exclusions to occur. As I said, this is not about this particular incident as I haven't seen it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteelShoe Posted 3 hours ago Report Share Posted 3 hours ago 1 hour ago, Whitelinehugger said: And no mention of supporters footage from mobiles With the speed of advances in AI its not hard to foresee that it won't be long until you will be able to do near real time modifications to video footage anyway so only official footage should be used. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
szkocjasid Posted 2 hours ago Report Share Posted 2 hours ago 1 hour ago, SPEEDY69 said: I haven't seen any of the meeting, just reading comments on here but I'm not particularly a fan of video replays. Plenty of contact is made in the sport but much of this is not enough to create a fall but unfortunately I think replays encourage riders to do exactly that as they know they'll get back in the re-run. I've seen it so many times, from Harris in a British Final to Nicki P & Hans A in GPs. Those who choose to stay on, as they should, can feel aggrieved but to fall on purpose risks injury to self and others. There shouldn't need to be a fall for exclusions to occur. As I said, this is not about this particular incident as I haven't seen it. Totally agree with this, I've seen riders get absolutely clattered & stay on, so nothing is done. Get barely brushed & slide off, so opposition gets excluded. Haven't seen the Cook & Battye incident, so can't comment on if I agree with decision, but surely a ref shouldn't announce a decision & then afterwards watch a replay to change his mind, especially an unofficial one. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neila Posted 1 hour ago Report Share Posted 1 hour ago 2 hours ago, Fromafar said: It doesn’t matter which Team you support it was pretty poor situation all round.IMO.Dishington should be reprimanded for his handling of it.Thats Speedway though.👎 Don't forget Blair as he is supposed to be an impartial announcer, not running up to the referee with 3rd party footage, as an ex rider ( but not a very good one 😜 ) he should just let the referee make a decision good or bad and not get involved Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allthegearbutnaeidea Posted 1 hour ago Report Share Posted 1 hour ago 11 minutes ago, Neila said: Don't forget Blair as he is supposed to be an impartial announcer, not running up to the referee with 3rd party footage, as an ex rider ( but not a very good one 😜 ) he should just let the referee make a decision good or bad and not get involved Blair didn’t supply the footage, or do anything like that from what I understand. The footage was sent to the box, presumably to the announcer, or the commentators or someone. Not via Blair, but for what it’s worth I don’t really like him, bring back Dick Barrie. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted 1 hour ago Report Share Posted 1 hour ago 32 minutes ago, allthegearbutnaeidea said: Blair didn’t supply the footage, or do anything like that from what I understand. The footage was sent to the box, presumably to the announcer, or the commentators or someone. Not via Blair, but for what it’s worth I don’t really like him, bring back Dick Barrie. Blair is Marmite Character.IMO 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neila Posted 55 minutes ago Report Share Posted 55 minutes ago Another grumble the sound system at Berwick needs sorting out, I was stood at the end of the stand just before the 3rd bend and got a mixture of speaker from the stand and the speakers on the centre green, but seemed a second or 2 delay between them it was all of a mumble, maybe a good job as I couldn't here Greg properly 😜. And yes yesterday the sound at worky was a bit loud but at least you could here it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allthegearbutnaeidea Posted 14 minutes ago Report Share Posted 14 minutes ago 40 minutes ago, Neila said: Another grumble the sound system at Berwick needs sorting out, I was stood at the end of the stand just before the 3rd bend and got a mixture of speaker from the stand and the speakers on the centre green, but seemed a second or 2 delay between them it was all of a mumble, maybe a good job as I couldn't here Greg properly 😜. And yes yesterday the sound at worky was a bit loud but at least you could here it Yep having been at both it really was night and day for the speaker systems. A lot of people have moaned, but I believe the speakers will fall under the football club’s list, and they haven’t got a pot to p*** in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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