GeneralMelchett Posted 12 hours ago Report Share Posted 12 hours ago 10 minutes ago, IainB said: If only there was something such as a Premiership CEO to make sure all tracks started at their advertised start time, whether that be rider parade or tapes up 🤔 I would imagine this is actually the refs call not the CEO of the premiership. The referee on arrival is (i believe) responsible for the control and running of the meeting are they not? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted 12 hours ago Author Report Share Posted 12 hours ago 6 minutes ago, TB1 said: Shall we send out a search party? Yes, let's start at Caravan Command in North Lincolnshire... he's probably tied up in a wardrobe next to Harry Redknapp 😂 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted 12 hours ago Author Report Share Posted 12 hours ago 11 minutes ago, GeneralMelchett said: I would imagine this is actually the refs call not the CEO of the premiership. The referee on arrival is (i believe) responsible for the control and running of the meeting are they not? That may very well be the case, even if it is it shouldn't be, as in most professional sports the meeting "Start Time" should be the advertised start time. The "start time" is mentioned a few times in the rules in reference to procedure, reporting and appeals etc. yet it doesn't state what the start time is, parade or tapes up and it doesn't say who is responsible. It's so simple it shouldn't be an issue, clubs should start, i.e tapes up, at their advertised time, if they want to hold a parade lasting 5, 10 or 15 minutes prior to that, it's entirely up to them and they should adjust their advertised start time accordingly... oh and have enough turnstiles open to allow easy entry. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rearingtogo Posted 11 hours ago Report Share Posted 11 hours ago 3 minutes ago, IainB said: . oh and have enough turnstiles open to allow easy entry. These a wide enough for quick entry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldyman Posted 11 hours ago Report Share Posted 11 hours ago Not sure if at all tracks,, but isn't their normally a meeting Co ordinator Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rearingtogo Posted 11 hours ago Report Share Posted 11 hours ago 2 minutes ago, Baldyman said: Not sure if at all tracks,, but isn't their normally a meeting Co ordinator Get the steward on the job Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gambo Posted 11 hours ago Report Share Posted 11 hours ago I arrived at the (half mile, or thereabouts) traffic queue at 6:45. They opened up the overflow car park just as I actually entered the stadium gates. I was directed to the overflow, and was the third car in there. Rather fortunately this allowed me fast exit after the meeting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitelinehugger Posted 10 hours ago Report Share Posted 10 hours ago 45 minutes ago, Gambo said: I arrived at the (half mile, or thereabouts) traffic queue at 6:45. They opened up the overflow car park just as I actually entered the stadium gates. I was directed to the overflow, and was the third car in there. Rather fortunately this allowed me fast exit after the meeting. You on a promise when you got home🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arnieg Posted 10 hours ago Report Share Posted 10 hours ago 1 hour ago, Gambo said: I arrived at the (half mile, or thereabouts) traffic queue at 6:45. They opened up the overflow car park just as I actually entered the stadium gates. I was directed to the overflow, and was the third car in there. Rather fortunately this allowed me fast exit after the meeting. I stayed behind talking to some N'hampton fans (main topic - how quickly can we get rid of Klindt) and given it all decants onto one 'B' Road I was pleasantly surprised at how quickly the car park cleared. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SJA Posted 9 hours ago Report Share Posted 9 hours ago 3 hours ago, Baldyman said: Not sticking up for them, but was it a case of meeting start time 7.30 and first race 7.45, as some other tracks are No just 7:30 - look at football kicks off at the advertised time and the introduction of players happens prior to this. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SJA Posted 9 hours ago Report Share Posted 9 hours ago 3 hours ago, kevin bass said: Same as Ipswich, start time states 7.30 but that's the start of the meeting, ie riders announced, first race is always 7.45. Look at football kicks off at the advertised time and the introduction of players happens prior to this. Speedway just appears an amateur sport in comparison to others 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted 6 hours ago Report Share Posted 6 hours ago (edited) 3 hours ago, SJA said: Look at football kicks off at the advertised time and the introduction of players happens prior to this. Speedway just appears an amateur sport in comparison to others But.... It is an amateur sport, at least off track... The promoters are not in the entertainment business, they are not marketeers, and definitely not in it "for the money".... They do their best given their limited capabilities to just "provide some Speedway".... Getting "professionals" in costs money, which means it won't happen.. People have too high an expectation of what the majority of promoters can deliver... You only have to see how they run the sport to know they don't have the required skill set to deliver what some fans see as "basic".... They do their best, and put their money in, and without them there wouldn't be any start time to moan about.... Edited 5 hours ago by mikebv 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevin bass Posted 6 hours ago Report Share Posted 6 hours ago 3 hours ago, SJA said: Look at football kicks off at the advertised time and the introduction of players happens prior to this. Speedway just appears an amateur sport in comparison to others Problem is the fixtures on British speedway site states tapes up time for Ipswich as 730, but its always been first race at 7.45. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crescent girl Posted 5 hours ago Report Share Posted 5 hours ago 33 minutes ago, kevin bass said: Problem is the fixtures on British speedway site states tapes up time for Ipswich as 730, but its always been first race at 7.45. Last night's meeting at Northampton started at exactly 7.30. The show began with a parade of competing riders, introductions and the like. This over, racing commenced with the first heat going to the tapes at 7.45. Northampton is currently the best-attended speedway in Britain, so why shouldn't they show off their wares with a parade, etc? They advertise starting at 7.30, that's what they did ....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
W9 Lion Posted 3 hours ago Report Share Posted 3 hours ago 3 hours ago, mikebv said: But.... It is an amateur sport, at least off track... The promoters are not in the entertainment business, they are not marketeers, and definitely not in it "for the money".... They do their best given their limited capabilities to just "provide some Speedway".... Getting "professionals" in costs money, which means it won't happen.. People have too high an expectation of what the majority of promoters can deliver... You only have to see how they run the sport to know they don't have the required skill set to deliver what some fans see as "basic".... They do their best, and put their money in, and without them there wouldn't be any start time to moan about.... Are you really suggesting promoters cannot tell the time? How can some clubs manage it? It comes down to the will of the promotion. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Jacobs Posted 1 hour ago Report Share Posted 1 hour ago 7 hours ago, SJA said: No just 7:30 - look at football kicks off at the advertised time and the introduction of players happens prior to this. There are always people late at football matches, because you see the empty seats gradually filling (and at the start of the second half too). Although, to be fair, a couple of Prem matches were delayed this season because of problems on the roads, which prevented access to the stadium. Plus, speedway is nothing to do with football - or any other sport. It's British speedway tradition for the parade to be part of the meeting, i.e. Ipswich speedway has always advertised the start time as the time of the parade, i.e. 7:30pm and first race at 7:45pm. I really don't see what the problem is - in the list of British speedway's problems, this must be rate in the bottom half a percent. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted 1 hour ago Report Share Posted 1 hour ago 1 minute ago, Roger Jacobs said: There are always people late at football matches, because you see the empty seats gradually filling (and at the start of the second half too). Although, to be fair, a couple of Prem matches were delayed this season because of problems on the roads, which prevented access to the stadium. Plus, speedway is nothing to do with football - or any other sport. It's British speedway tradition for the parade to be part of the meeting, i.e. Ipswich speedway has always advertised the start time as the time of the parade, i.e. 7:30pm and first race at 7:45pm. I really don't see what the problem is - in the list of British speedway's problems, this must be rate in the bottom half a percent. And EVERY £25 counts!!!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fortythirtyeight Posted 1 hour ago Report Share Posted 1 hour ago 11 hours ago, GeneralMelchett said: I would imagine this is actually the refs call not the CEO of the premiership. The referee on arrival is (i believe) responsible for the control and running of the meeting are they not? The ref will just follow local protocol. If the CoC says we start at 7:30 with a parade the ref will just say OK. The ref merely controls the match not the clubs procedures. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted 1 hour ago Author Report Share Posted 1 hour ago (edited) 13 minutes ago, Roger Jacobs said: There are always people late at football matches, because you see the empty seats gradually filling (and at the start of the second half too). Although, to be fair, a couple of Prem matches were delayed this season because of problems on the roads, which prevented access to the stadium. Plus, speedway is nothing to do with football - or any other sport. It's British speedway tradition for the parade to be part of the meeting, i.e. Ipswich speedway has always advertised the start time as the time of the parade, i.e. 7:30pm and first race at 7:45pm. I really don't see what the problem is - in the list of British speedway's problems, this must be rate in the bottom half a percent. At Football though it'll generally be the Police that delay a start due to crowd safety... you've not got Sir John Ratcliffe faffing about at the only 2 turnstiles open at Old Trafford scratching around in his pockets for some pound coins due to a lack of change 😂 Start time should be start time imo. If Ippo want to have their parade at 7:30 great! Just advertise the start time as 7:45, you shouldn't really have different tracks doing different things. If Ippo cancel their parade due to weather heading in (when that used to happen) do they start at 7:30 or 7:45? Edited 1 hour ago by IainB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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