Belle Vue -V- Ipswich

[ShanoXtra]

Just now, kevin bass said:

Mayfields are running a tight ship and it was mentioned before Doyle wouldn't be in their budget, their penny pinching and saving every penny they can cost cutting the GP series by all accounts.

That can’t be right, they promised to put a massive screen up at Foxhall which would easily be in excess of £40/50k

[TTT]

1 minute ago, Aries said:

Yes he does.

Mayfield don't have an excuse then imo, Started the season poorly but he's regained his confidence since signing for Berwick.

[Aries]

8 minutes ago, kevin bass said:

Mayfields are running a tight ship and it was mentioned before Doyle wouldn't be in their budget, their penny pinching and saving every penny they can cost cutting the GP series by all accounts.

Where has it been said Doyle wouldn’t be in their budget?

[TTT]

6 minutes ago, kevin bass said:

Mayfields are running a tight ship and it was mentioned before Doyle wouldn't be in their budget, their penny pinching and saving every penny they can cost cutting the GP series by all accounts.

On course to become the new King's Lynn unfortunately.

[kevin bass]

38 minutes ago, Aries said:

Where has it been said Doyle wouldn’t be in their budget?

Can't remember where i read it or who said it but was mentioned on another thread on here, could all be rumours tho.

[mikebv]

1 hour ago, TTT said:

Re-Signing Doyle was the opportunity which Mayfield wavered that would've seen Tom @ No.3.

I hope Tom can regain some confidence as it's not nice seeing him struggle like this when he's made good progress year-on-year.

Tom B has made most of his progress riding at No3, protected by two exceptional one and fives, at BV and Ipswich, who went head to head against their opposite numbers several times per meeting, and, invariably, heat fifteen...

The fact they remained one and five shows their top level capability...

Tom was very honest post the GB GP's as to where is he, and that is a long way off the level of a No1, even in a depleted league...

No 1's of Kurtz, Fricke, J Holder and Lidsey, are Polish top tier HL's, so, no idea why anyone would consider Tom to be of that level..

Especially considering he even is struggling to hold down a Polish tier two position..

 

Edited 21 hours ago by mikebv

[ouch]

Enjoyable meeting on a lovely warm evening. The track staff did well again, this time in keeping the dust down on a very warm and windy evening. Plenty of good racing but I must say The Aces have been gating way way better this season which (along with injury) has always been our Achilles heal, so it a bit daunting for the rest of our league.  Be interesting to see how our gating goes on Thursday where that skill is crucial. Out of the current bunch in our league, Foxhall is our happiest of hunting grounds since Covid and I’m hoping the blip that was last season will be forgotten as we get back to winning ways. Norick seems to be finally kicking on and is currently averaging over 6.50 for 2026.

Sad to see Tom stall as I know there’s a gem in there. He left us around a 6 and his current 2026 average is around that, though he does have heat 13 instead of 8 or 14 with us. He takes a special kind of managing so a winter move might be on the cards. I wish we could fit him back in. Sometimes I hate points limits as much as I did rider control as it really affects riders. 

[noaksey]

2 hours ago, kevin bass said:

Mayfields are running a tight ship and it was mentioned before Doyle wouldn't be in their budget, their penny pinching and saving every penny they can cost cutting the GP series by all accounts.

Probably because the GP series they took over was losing money and required stabilising first to put it back on an even keel 

[Roger Jacobs]

When I said they would get thrashed, I thought the Witches could at least score 35 or 36.  That was abysmal with a capital C.

[therefused]

9 hours ago, TTT said:

On course to become the new King's Lynn unfortunately.

No fear of that, you’ll finish above us easily 

[cowboy cookie returns?]

I was one of those who thought we should have gone & brought Jason back in.

However if you look at the team I’m not sure how that happens. Two changes possibly three to make it work for us to be any better.

As many have said this year is a free pass let’s get though it the real test will be this winters team building.

Tomorow nights announcement on future plans could also be telling.

[Aries]

58 minutes ago, Roger Jacobs said:

When I said they would get thrashed, I thought the Witches could at least score 35 or 36.  That was abysmal with a capital C.

You’re very unlikely to get a single point from Nicholls there. It’s one thing scoring double figures on a piddly little track like Plymouth in the Championship, it’s another entirely when you visit a track where you need pace in the top flight. IF we visit the NSS again this year in the play offs, he won’t score a point then either. 
 

You’re also going to get next to nothing from Nicholls, Lawson and Bangs combined there. The result is a thumping as expected. Take your point though, the scale of the defeat was probably a bit more than hoped. 

39 minutes ago, cowboy cookie returns? said:

I was one of those who thought we should have gone & brought Jason back in.

However if you look at the team I’m not sure how that happens. Two changes possibly three to make it work for us to be any better.

As many have said this year is a free pass let’s get though it the real test will be this winters team building.

Tomorow nights announcement on future plans could also be telling.

It was never going to be anything else. The likes of TTT suddenly have it in for the new owners, which I don’t understand personally. They came in at the end of February so this season was always going to be a write off. If you’re ever going to have a “write off” Season, then this abomination of a season is the perfect time to have it!
 

By all accounts speaking to those that have had dealings with him (Arch on here for one) Coleman strikes an impressive figure and has big plans ahead for the club. People need to get off his back and stop the cry arsing a few months in to his reign. It’s a bit embarrassing to be honest. 

Edited 12 hours ago by Aries

[IainB]

31 minutes ago, Aries said:

By all accounts speaking to those that have had dealings with him (Arch on here for one) Coleman strikes an impressive figure and has big plans ahead for the club. People need to get off his back and stop the cry arsing a few months in to his reign. It’s a bit embarrassing to be honest. 

It sounds very much like the crowning of a new PM, they always sound very impressive when stood on the steps of downing street with all their big plans, once the door closes behind them and the reality sets in they soon find that they can't really do anything and we end up with business as usual 

[GeneralMelchett]

8 hours ago, noaksey said:

Probably because the GP series they took over was losing money and required stabilising first to put it back on an even keel 

If they hadn't have taken over the series then who would have? I really do wonder what goes through peoples minds sometimes do they not see the evidence in front of them? - the GB SGP has gone from Cardiff to Belle Vue and the Danish one from Parken to Vojens - think people think!!

The speedways of nations was a terribly badly attended event the other year even the final had a half empty stadium in Poland!

There is periodic calls to re-run one down under - completely overlooking the fact that each time one has been run the event has lost shedloads for the relevant promoters! 

[GeneralMelchett]

9 minutes ago, IainB said:

It sounds very much like the crowning of a new PM, they always sound very impressive when stood on the steps of downing street with all their big plans, once the door closes behind them and the reality sets in they soon find that they can't really do anything and we end up with business as usual 

He is hardly going to come in and say - well everyone i intend to run this into the ground, but as ever people have the attention spans of gnats and expect success to be achieved with either no investment or overnight. Why everyone is judging them after 3 months and that's why we are on our 7th PM in 10 years!

[Aries]

12 minutes ago, IainB said:

It sounds very much like the crowning of a new PM, they always sound very impressive when stood on the steps of downing street with all their big plans, once the door closes behind them and the reality sets in they soon find that they can't really do anything and we end up with business as usual 

He’s been here less than four months Iain. 

[GeneralMelchett]

A proper thrashing - only Danny emerges with credit really but move on!

[SPEEDY69]

40 minutes ago, Aries said:

You’re very unlikely to get a single point from Nicholls there. It’s one thing scoring double figures on a piddly little track like Plymouth in the Championship, it’s another entirely when you visit a track where you need pace in the top flight. IF we visit the NSS again this year in the play offs, he won’t score a point then either. 
 

You’re also going to get next to nothing from Nicholls, Lawson and Bangs combined there. The result is a thumping as expected. Take your point though, the scale of the defeat was probably a bit more than hoped. 

It was never going to be anything else. The likes of TTT suddenly have it in for the new owners, which I don’t understand personally. They came in at the end of February so this season was always going to be a write off. If you’re ever going to have a “write off” Season, then this abomination of a season is the perfect time to have it!
 

By all accounts speaking to those that have had dealings with him (Arch on here for one) Coleman strikes an impressive figure and has big plans ahead for the club. People need to get off his back and stop the cry arsing a few months in to his reign. It’s a bit embarrassing to be honest. 

I think that's a bit harsh on some of the riders, it's only a few years since Scott got 14 at the NSS and Bangs did ok in the world cup or whatever it's called plus Lawson has also done ok there before.  When you miss the start you're not going to overhaul a Belle Vue rider, as King and Musielak found out.  You have to give credit to Belle Vue, their riders are so good around there I don't see them being beaten, it's their away performances that will be key to winning the title this season, which I think they will.

It's a game of two halves so let's see what happens Thursday but I still think King and Nicholls should swap riding positions. 

[IainB]

11 minutes ago, GeneralMelchett said:

He is hardly going to come in and say - well everyone i intend to run this into the ground, but as ever people have the attention spans of gnats and expect success to be achieved with either no investment or overnight. Why everyone is judging them after 3 months and that's why we are on our 7th PM in 10 years!

 

10 minutes ago, Aries said:

He’s been here less than four months Iain. 

I get it and I'm not calling them out, all I'm saying is talk is cheap. Promote your club\event, introduce your changes and then sing it from the hilltops 📢

[IainB]

12 minutes ago, SPEEDY69 said:

it's their away performances that will be key to winning the title this season, which I think they will.

It's a game of two halves so let's see what happens Thursday but I still think King and Nicholls should swap riding positions. 

While they're hammering the likes of Ippo & Leicester like they are they're easily going to pickup the bonus and seem pretty unbeatable over 2 legs of a play off (at the moment)