Premiership 2027 - Are You Interested??

[Whitelinehugger]

1 minute ago, mikebv said:

They have had literally thousands of pieces unsolicited feedback down the years, via the written Speedway media, in person at the tracks, and obviously via Social Media..

With so much of it focused on the same repeating issues that were gradually turning even die hards away..

The only thing they chose to do with it was ignore it...

Totally fed up with it all.

[Hawk127]

23 minutes ago, mikebv said:

They have had literally thousands of pieces of unsolicited feedback down the years, via the written Speedway media, in person at the tracks, and obviously via Social Media..

With so much of it focused on the same repeating issues that were gradually turning even die hards away..

The only thing they chose to do with it was ignore it...

Yep and you reap what you sow. Don’t start bemoaning that punters have walked when you failed to listen to feedback. All on here and probably some lapsed supporters would not want the sport to disappear altogether but those in charge are testing the loyalty and patience of supporters across the spectrum. They do not appeal to the younger generation and are ostracising the hard core fan base who have been so loyal over the years by failing to be proactive to arrest the situation and put the sport on a firmer footing. None so blind as those who do not want to see sums up the BSPL and club owners/promoters who believe everything in the garden is rosey. Dream on the bunch of custodians who supposedly have the best interest of sport at heart, they don’t and they are failing every supporter and worse still every aspiring rider who wants to succeed but is not given the breaks they need or deserve.

[Hawk127]

50 minutes ago, mikebv said:

They have had literally thousands of pieces of unsolicited feedback down the years, via the written Speedway media, in person at the tracks, and obviously via Social Media..

With so much of it focused on the same repeating issues that were gradually turning even die hards away..

The only thing they chose to do with it was ignore it...

 

Edited 19 hours ago by Hawk127
Duplicate post. What on earth is wrong with the system

[castrolargh]

I was chatting with a once die hard supporter yesterday.He now visits occasionally and was stunned that it cost him £75 to get in to lynn with his 2 teenage kids to watch the tractors do more laps than the bikes.Say no more. Its just not value for money. Add in a drink each and a program and you've got bugger all change left from £100. 

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18 hours ago, IainB said:

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Surely the likes of Dan Thompson can't make a living from watching Speedway sat in the pits in Poland? And he needs to remember that when signing his contracts. 

No he can’t. However he is on an upward trend performance wise and it won’t be long before he moves on from being an unused sub. 

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19 hours ago, 4thbender said:

British speedway needs to set its own agenda and not kowtow to foreign stipulations. If it means saying a permanent goodbye to riders preferring to seek their fortunes elsewhere, so be it. For survival we need a single nationwide league of 12/14 teams of riders committed 100% to British racing between March and October.

A 24/26 match league programme plus a further 8/10 matches in a split north-south KO cup competition will guarantee teams a weekly match programme (just as it used to be!) The loss of a few "fancy-Dan" racers to Poland will mean much more money available to the rest who wish to compete in the UK, and a sensible rider payment policy will provide ample earnings potential for riders over a guaranteed 36-match season.

But. It’s not just Poland but also Sweden, Czech & Denmark that riders who ride in the UK also race. 
So to go to one uk league with meetings throughout the week would mean all those riders giving uk a miss. The consequence being 
The number of riders available including NDL would be circa forty ie enough for six or seven teams for the whole of the Uk meaning a massive dilution of the sport. 


 
 

[Son of Shaleman]

My record this year:

Klint testimonial- racing curtailed

Lynn home meeting - off because it might rain.

Young Stars off - air fence did a runner 

Lynn v Northampton-dreadful in terms of racing 

Y Stars - off. Track staff ill.

My patience has been sorely tried. 8 hrs round trip but I stay in hotel and hope for seeing two meetings in 3 days. 
 

I have scrubbed Young Stars from now on. Been had twice - there won’t be a third time.

As to next year, there needs to be big changes for me to spend the money I have this year for little return.

 

 

Edited 7 hours ago by Son of Shaleman

[PhilTheAce]

2026 as been a hard watch and that started from november 25, 

 

a winter of discontent not knowing what structure will be, lost lots of fans before a wheel was even turned, and they not done anything to entice them back.

 

i remember dicko saying they will be sorting 2027 out very early during the seasoon, well we are nearer the end of the season and nothing about 27 as been mentioned, set out a plan that fans believe in and you might just entice these people back, fans are out there, thats the frustrating thing.

 

before they start trying to bring new fans in they need to bring back the fans that have walked away, 

 

start of by securing a TV deal, thats a masisve loss of money for the clubs, plus people easily forget the sport is still going when all the domestic league racing is behind a paywall that only existing fans know about.

 

no one knows the figures of BSN or the clubs private streams but they are deffo having an impact on attendances, yes clubs are still getting money with them watching at home but they lose out on parking money, food and drink and merchandise sales, so they must be taking a massive financial kick in the bollocks with it. scrap streaming

 

need a new vision, Rob Godfrey has to stand down, which i think will be this year, if they can, while hes not everybodys cup of team, and tbh, i see him as a guy that will leave the sport and never be seen again, but try tempt Tai to run the sport in uk, hes got no ties with any club, and we know his marketing value is very good.

 

leads me perfectly to marketing, or lack of it, constantly asking fans to spread the word about speedway, i think most fans do that anyway but your job as a promotor is to promote, and it seems no one does, Plymouth are doing a fanstastic job of it. that old saying, speculate to accumulate, advertising is not cheap but if it gets you an extra 100 people through the door at £25 thats £2,500 extra every week, add on top of that drinks and other sales.

Ask Mark Phillips what hes doing and plymouth and follow his ideas, he seems to be upping his crowd.

 

dont do one league, every sport needs a top league to sell, put the points limit up and go back to the old style , 45 point limit for 7 riders, scrap the RS and put it in the champ. prepare your tracks better and you will see an influx of riders return, riders want to race uk but they dont trust track prep when you speak to them or hear what they have to say on various podcasts.

 

season tickets should be discounted like ipswich have done. sell the season ticket valued at £20 per match, and give them the option to pay monthly, starting from november, 

 

atmosphere is missing totally, each track have a certain area in the stadium where fans can congregate and make some noise, 

 

start meetings on time, and make sure they last no more than 90 minutes (crashes dependent)

 

regular fixtures, far to many teams going 4-5 weeks without a home match, should be 2 weeks at most

 

re-brand the play offs, i like the Denmark way of doing it, whoever finishes top of regular season ride the final at there track in a 4TT, or make it top team straight to the final and 2nd and 3rd team if a play off tie for the final

 

we all want weekend racing, but we just cant do that unfortunately, the top league need to ride all matches on Mondays, this is uk race night, there will be no clashes with any team in europe and gives clubs' full availability to all riders fort every match, 

 

dont scrap the guests but limit the amount of times you can use a guest, 

 

 

 

 

[Bagpuss]

25 minutes ago, PhilTheAce said:

dont scrap the guests but limit the amount of times you can use a guest 

And keep them to a minimum. R/R has to be compulsory apart from for your number 1 or a reserve, but replace reserves with unattached Champ riders. And on the Championship don't allow riders like McDairmid to sign in the first place if they are never going to be here.

[Phannan]

I’m more interested in the German clown getting sacked after last night’s shambles. My interest in speedway will only return when some jeopardy is added to the sport and add meaning to most meetings. Won’t hold my breath though 

[therefused]

1 hour ago, PhilTheAce said:

dont do one league, every sport needs a top league to sell, put the points limit up and go back to the old style , 45 point limit for 7 riders, scrap the RS and put it in the champ. prepare your tracks better and you will see an influx of riders return, riders want to race uk but they dont trust track prep when you speak to them or hear what they have to say on various podcasts.

 

if there was one league it automatically makes it a top league. Its the only way to go if you ask me, 45 points limit for 7 riders is absolute insanity and will see even more of a gap than there already is. 

[Daniel Smith]

1 minute ago, therefused said:

if there was one league it automatically makes it a top league. Its the only way to go if you ask me, 45 points limit for 7 riders is absolute insanity and will see even more of a gap than there already is. 

Wasn't it 45 but that also included bonus points??

[PhilTheAce]

17 minutes ago, therefused said:

if there was one league it automatically makes it a top league. Its the only way to go if you ask me, 45 points limit for 7 riders is absolute insanity and will see even more of a gap than there already is. 

there will never be one league, quicker we forget this idea the better for peoples mental health

[PhilTheAce]

18 minutes ago, therefused said:

if there was one league it automatically makes it a top league. Its the only way to go if you ask me, 45 points limit for 7 riders is absolute insanity and will see even more of a gap than there already is. 

look how its turned out lowering the points limit year on year, massive gaps in team qualities, so why not try something different

[mikebv]

It simply doesn't matter what they come up with if hardly anyone from the 80 million people in the UK know that you exist...

What does a Premiership team cost? £350k a year maybe??.

Shave off £50k and pay someone that money to work full time to run your marketing and commercial operations, plus running the "fan experience" on the night itself...

With their remit to bring in a tangible extra £100k a season in sponsorship, and attendance increases...

Give them full remit to do "whatever they need to", to get, at least, 2500 in the stadium...

Free tickets, reduced tickets, database collation, even direct cold call marketing, their role will be to get the team noticed and get "new" money into the club...

The more who attend, the better the atmosphere as we know, currently any "newbie" attending would have been in louder, more atmospheric libraries..

You can pay out six figures for a top two world class riders who, due to their small public profiles, will bring in hardly anyone extra to watch, or pay someone a decent figure, (with performance bonus), to get them noticed , and then bring people in to watch them....

I visited a pub on Monday to meet up with an old workmate, a pub I had never used before...

I signed up to use their WIFI...

Within 24 hours I had a 15% off voucher emailed to me for this Sunday in their restaurant, and thanking me for my custom...

The circa 3000 or so who still follow most Premiership teams, should all be known to "someone" at the club,(via the clubs database), and that "someone" then keeps constantly communicating and doing anything, and everything, they can to encourage repeat visits...

500 empty seats just get colour faded in the sunshine...

500 full ones, even at a tenner each,  will bring in £50k over a season, and create far more of an "event feel" and atmosphere, plus increase bar, food and merchandise takings...

UK Speedway brings in big money in relation to its size, and pays out even more!!

It needs to redistribute the money going out to people who could help bring more people in..

And currently, that isn't the riders..

 

Edited 9 minutes ago by mikebv

[therefused]

2 hours ago, PhilTheAce said:

look how its turned out lowering the points limit year on year, massive gaps in team qualities, so why not try something different

good idea, lets try one league with a more varied fixture list 😀

[Tim G]

3 hours ago, Bagpuss said:

And keep them to a minimum. R/R has to be compulsory apart from for your number 1 or a reserve, but replace reserves with unattached Champ riders. And on the Championship don't allow riders like McDairmid to sign in the first place if they are never going to be here.

Problem with McDairmid he is riding in the top flight in Poland and is also in the SGP2 meetings so means he will miss loads of Friday’s. With so many championship teams running on a Friday a rider like that is unfortunate going to miss lots of meetings.

Next year, Cairns and Rushen will probably have the same issue so would you also not sign them?

[therefused]

9 minutes ago, Tim G said:

Next year, Cairns and Rushen will probably have the same issue so would you also not sign them?

Yes

[therefused]

54 minutes ago, mikebv said:

It simply doesn't matter what they come up with if hardly anyone from the 80 million in the UK people know that you exist...

What does a Premiership team cost? £350k a year maybe??.

Shave off £50k and pay someone that money to work full time to run your marketing and commercial operations, plus running the "fan experience" on the night itself...

With their remit to bring in a tangible extra £100k a season in sponsorship, and attendance increases...

Give them full remit to do "whatever they need to", to get, at least, 2500 in the stadium...

Free tickets, reduced tickets, database collation, even direct cold call marketing, their role will be to get the team noticed and get "new" money into the club...

The more who attend, the better the atmosphere as we know, currently any "newbie" attending would have been in louder, more atmospheric libraries..

You can pay out six figures for a top two world class riders who, due to their small public profiles, will bring in hardly anyone extra to watch, or pay someone a decent figure, (with performance bonus), to get them noticed , and then bring people in to watch them....

I visited a pub on Monday to meet up with an old workmate, a pub I had never used before...

I signed up to use their WIFI...

Within 24 hours I had a 15% off voucher emailed to me for this Sunday in their restaurant, and thanking me for my custom...

The circa 3000 or so who still follow most Premiership teams, should all be known to "someone" at the club,(via the clubs database), and that "someone" then keeps constantly communicating and doing anything, and everything, they can to encourage repeat visits...

500 empty seats just get colour faded in the sunshine...

500 full ones, even at a tenner each,  will bring in £50k over a season, and create far more of an "event feel" and atmosphere, plus increase bar, food and merchandise takings...

UK Speedway brings in big money in relation to its size, and pays out even more!!

It needs to redistribute the money going out to people who could help bring more people in..

And currently, that isn't the riders..

 

i just remembered a few years ago Kings Lynn were advertising this role - https://www.kingslynn-speedway.com/news.php?extend.30563

in the end i believe Chapmans daughter was the one they selected. 😁

[Bagpuss]

9 minutes ago, Tim G said:

Problem with McDairmid he is riding in the top flight in Poland and is also in the SGP2 meetings so means he will miss loads of Friday’s. With so many championship teams running on a Friday a rider like that is unfortunate going to miss lots of meetings.

Next year, Cairns and Rushen will probably have the same issue so would you also not sign them?

I personally don't think that any rider who is going to be absent for a certain percentage of meetings in a season should be permitted to ride in a league whoever they are.

Injury can't be helped but one of the things which gets up people's noses more than anything IMO is facilities for riders who are raving elsewhere and not for the team they signed for.