PhilTheAce Posted 7 hours ago Report Share Posted 7 hours ago 1 hour ago, noaksey said: John Campbell in today's Star All the championship clubs want 1 league, a couple of the Premier clubs might like 1 big league Peter Oakes "the majority of fans appear to want 1 big league" So basically 11 of the current clubs are apparently in favour but (lets say) the 4 that aren't seem to hold sway.... It's an interesting set up Speedway Basically its 3 clubs stopping 1 league because 2 of them clubs are run/owned by the same persons 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noaksey Posted 6 hours ago Report Share Posted 6 hours ago 42 minutes ago, PhilTheAce said: Basically its 3 clubs stopping 1 league because 2 of them clubs are run/owned by the same persons It's madness. Perhaps the remaining 12 should go it alone on that basis 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TTT Posted 6 hours ago Report Share Posted 6 hours ago On 8/4/2026 at 9:50 AM, PhilTheAce said: with the new polish rule and possible retirements, we could potentially lose 10 riders next season blodorn (sweden & poland kvech ( czech league & poland) b cook (sweden & poland NKI (retired, if not poland & denmark) Zagar (already gone) klindt (denmark & poland) brennan (possibly poland and sweden) nicholls (retired) douglas (poland & sweden) howarth (retire) 2027 could look massively different Won't be that drastic tbh, Swedish League is very overrated and some of the riders prefer not to ride in that League. Looking at Blodorn, Iversen, Klindt and Kvech imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InTheDeepStuff Posted 5 hours ago Report Share Posted 5 hours ago Interesting read also in the Speedway Star this week is the Kyle Howarth interview, where he’s said even the riders are sick of racing at the same places 4 times a season and that alongside the massive fixture gaps is why he’s taking a break from it for remainder of 2026. It’s good to see a rider speak openly about the current position not working rather than speaking the party line of it’s all rosey in the garden. The one big league with 2H and 2A would give them more variety and also a decent amount of meetings to negate the doubling up that a decent amount of riders are doing. The promoters/owners need to look at the bigger picture here and not just what suits them, OK it might upset a few big hitters that want to ride/live in UK but can’t if go down one big league and team average isn’t a crazy amount, but they aren’t going to be around for ever and it’s not like there’s an influx of foreigners wanting to ride over here, so take the bullet now get a baseline in position for the sport and take it from there. If the one league doesn’t work out then can revisit alternatives but whatever have now just isn’t working for riders or fans. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topaz325 Posted 4 hours ago Report Share Posted 4 hours ago 20 minutes ago, InTheDeepStuff said: Interesting read also in the Speedway Star this week is the Kyle Howarth interview, where he’s said even the riders are sick of racing at the same places 4 times a season and that alongside the massive fixture gaps is why he’s taking a break from it for remainder of 2026. It’s good to see a rider speak openly about the current position not working rather than speaking the party line of it’s all rosey in the garden. The one big league with 2H and 2A would give them more variety and also a decent amount of meetings to negate the doubling up that a decent amount of riders are doing. The promoters/owners need to look at the bigger picture here and not just what suits them, OK it might upset a few big hitters that want to ride/live in UK but can’t if go down one big league and team average isn’t a crazy amount, but they aren’t going to be around for ever and it’s not like there’s an influx of foreigners wanting to ride over here, so take the bullet now get a baseline in position for the sport and take it from there. If the one league doesn’t work out then can revisit alternatives but whatever have now just isn’t working for riders or fans. Agree but all depends on costings for riders wages etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted 4 hours ago Report Share Posted 4 hours ago (edited) 1 hour ago, TTT said: Won't be that drastic tbh, Swedish League is very overrated and some of the riders prefer not to ride in that League. Looking at Blodorn, Iversen, Klindt and Kvech imo. The money, which used to be circa double the UK, also isn't the same now... Jason Doyle said a couple of years ago that it wasn't worth the hassle of getting out there for what the difference was, and that season chose the UK instead. And he only went to Sweden this year I would think due to the delay in setting up the top tier over here... One league, home and away once would give 28 matches, plus KO Cup, plus Play Offs.... And maybe use something similar to the Danish Play Off system where each team in the top four holds a round and use the SWC format. Meaning more meetings and maybe bigger crowds given three sets of away fans can attend..? Many more meetings than Sweden and Denmark would offer currently.. Might need five rider teams, might mean no GP riders, will mean a reduction in talent levels on show... Might also mean a max salary cap paid centrally by the BSP to ensure it is stuck to. (I am sure it will be)..😗.. Eg. £1.5k for No1, £1.25k for No2, £1k for No3, £500 for No4, and £250 for No 5.. £9k for two meetings home and away.. John Campbell mentioned Dan T virtually sitting it out in Poland this season but having to travel there, and suggested some may not take the risk next season out there, however, Dan T, and the others, would still have got a decent signing on fee, which, as he said in his Vlog, was much more than the two combined he got over here.. And one race win over there would get him more than a 15 max in the Championship over here given the £700/£800 per point quoted by him over there, and the £90/£100 a point on offer over here he quoted for a No1 in the Championship.. Therefore, can't see too many turning down a Polish place... Some pride might need swallowing by some promoters to ensure 15 teams come to the tapes next year... But the same old/same old simply won't cut it, and clearly hasn't for the past decade, especially post COVID.. The optics of a 15 team league at least make the sport look like a "national" one, with relevance, and also look reasonably sized, which just might be easier to sell to sponsors and TV?.. Edited 4 hours ago by mikebv 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TTT Posted 3 hours ago Report Share Posted 3 hours ago Let's say one big League does happen just for arguments sake. Where are we getting 15 x No.1's from if we have to rule out riders like Bewley, Doyle, Fricke, J. Holder and Kurtz due to fixtures being all over the place? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ouch Posted 3 hours ago Report Share Posted 3 hours ago Could one of the boffins tell me what a meeting like Redcar v Belle Vue and Glasgow v Leicester would look like with regards team composition, admission cost and race day? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FishersGate Posted 3 hours ago Report Share Posted 3 hours ago 49 minutes ago, TTT said: Let's say one big League does happen just for arguments sake. Where are we getting 15 x No.1's from if we have to rule out riders like Bewley, Doyle, Fricke, J. Holder and Kurtz due to fixtures being all over the place? You could do two leagues both at championship standard. So riders can double up for now until new talent arrives, then when things improve (hopefully) do one big league with a NDL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted 2 hours ago Report Share Posted 2 hours ago (edited) 3 hours ago, ouch said: Could one of the boffins tell me what a meeting like Redcar v Belle Vue and Glasgow v Leicester would look like with regards team composition, admission cost and race day? Whatever it is can it be any worse than the current "Donald Ducked", unaffordable system?... In the Speedway Star John Campbell also mentioned more teams want to go to Fridays... Don't let a certain Promoter know!!!... The bottom line is what we have simply doesn't work, and, given where we are now hasn't for years.... No matter how many times the dead horse gets flogged by certain Promoters... The UK version of Speedway is almost in a position to just forget what has gone before and completely start again, with affordability and ultimately growth being the sole initial aim. Ipswich v Belle Vue v Northampton would make a good tri team tournament, but 10 times each per season, with all reaching the final, and I am not sure it would be a grower, and TV might not be interested...... Edited 6 minutes ago by mikebv Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted 2 hours ago Report Share Posted 2 hours ago 38 minutes ago, FishersGate said: You could do two leagues both at championship standard. So riders can double up for now until new talent arrives, then when things improve (hopefully) do one big league with a NDL. Riders with Polish contracts, as it stands, cannot DU next season... And not too many of them will decide DUing over here is better than accepting a Polish contract I would suggest. Especially as the signing on fee helps them fund their racing outside of Poland too... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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