DaveWayne Posted September 25 Report Share Posted September 25 (edited) 1 hour ago, Phannan said: I don’t have a problem with guests Dave. They’re a necessary evil in the sport. Always have been. My problem is that Max Frickes season in this country had ended as well as his teams. To then be able to start it up again with a different club at this stage of it seems wrong. That’s why I called it a tin pot rule. If someone guested who hasn’t actually raced in the league this season, i.e lambert or whoever then although not ideal, would be acceptable. Just my opinion 1 hour ago, Phannan said: Unfortunately, the guest rules don't allow for that, and with the added rule of only being allowed to ride for one team in the playoffs, Sheffield had no choice but to bring in somebody who had already 'failed' this season. We have struggled through the season unable to find a suitable replacement for one of the best riders in the world, and Fricke was our only option within the existing rules to have any chance of winning the playoffs. As I said in another thread, had Bewley and Holder's injuries happened in reverse order then the shoe could quite easily have been on the other foot. Edited September 25 by DaveWayne 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ouch Posted September 25 Report Share Posted September 25 1 hour ago, SUPERACE said: "Maybe the Aces fans are getting a bit nervous with their poor record at Owlerton ? They are just covering their bases and pointing out how 'tin pot' the rules are so that they can undermine our title win if we are succesful". The words above are yours Dave, and your saying this isn't about Fricke. LOL do me a favor. As I said nobody has an issue with Fricke riding, nobody as mentioned an issue with Fricke Riding, so how are Aces fans covering any bases. As i said Made Up. The time to complain about tin pot rules was in 2023 when Robert Lambert illegally guested for Sheffield and won them the trophy. Basically Damien the Sheffield promoter emailed committee member Mr Bates to see if the rule could be circumnavigated. They came to a mutual agreement and the trophy was sorted. Funnily enough, the year before they conspired to alter the rules for the play offs but someone from outside the sport made sure the rules were adhered to. With regards super Max being in the Sheffield side, am I missing something or isn’t the Sheffield side the same as the one we last met at Owlerton? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveWayne Posted September 25 Report Share Posted September 25 1 hour ago, SUPERACE said: "Maybe the Aces fans are getting a bit nervous with their poor record at Owlerton ? They are just covering their bases and pointing out how 'tin pot' the rules are so that they can undermine our title win if we are succesful". The words above are yours Dave, and your saying this isn't about Fricke. LOL do me a favor. As I said nobody has an issue with Fricke riding, nobody as mentioned an issue with Fricke Riding, so how are Aces fans covering any bases. As i said Made Up. Yes it is my words and it was posted as a bit of tongue in cheek banter, the clue being the emojis. Sadly, as is the norm, you go on the attack like a 10 year old arguing in a playground. 😘 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Jacobs Posted September 25 Report Share Posted September 25 (edited) 3 hours ago, YeOldPitGate said: Fair comment Roger but you get my point that Sheffield have got lucky that the one genuine world class replacement rider in the top UK league was available to book in And the point I've made is that perhaps they haven't got lucky. Fricke's average has dropped dramatically - and it can be argued that for such a good, proven rider it shouldn't have fallen like that (more than Brennan's has fallen at Ipswich, and he's had a terrible season according to most). Fricke's average was still too high to guest for Holder in away matches until 1st September, so there must have been a great deal of luck involved to get it low enough ... Edited September 25 by Roger Jacobs 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted September 25 Report Share Posted September 25 13 minutes ago, Roger Jacobs said: And the point I've made is that perhaps they haven't got lucky. Fricke's average has dropped dramatically - and it can be argued that for such a good, proven rider it shouldn't have fallen like that (more than Brennan's has fallen at Ipswich, and he's had a terrible season according to most). Fricke's average was still too high to guest for Holder in away matches until 1st September, so there must have been a great deal of luck involved to get it low enough ... As is often said ... Sometimes the lack of scrutiny, publicity and focus, that the sport gets isn't always a bad thing ..😉 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted September 25 Report Share Posted September 25 2 hours ago, Elmo said: Max Fricke 15 + Jody Scott 2 = 17 Of course - my bad as they say Should never have doubted Mike 😁 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted September 25 Report Share Posted September 25 7 hours ago, foreverblue said: Have to be+50%! They'll be giving Haaland away very soon!!!! And the rest!!!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted September 25 Report Share Posted September 25 (edited) 3 hours ago, ouch said: The time to complain about tin pot rules was in 2023 when Robert Lambert illegally guested for Sheffield and won them the trophy. Basically Damien the Sheffield promoter emailed committee member Mr Bates to see if the rule could be circumnavigated. They came to a mutual agreement and the trophy was sorted. Funnily enough, the year before they conspired to alter the rules for the play offs but someone from outside the sport made sure the rules were adhered to. With regards super Max being in the Sheffield side, am I missing something or isn’t the Sheffield side the same as the one we last met at Owlerton? The play off curse must have hit Sheffield that year, they had to win it with team half full of guests!! Good job you were able to get Lambert in 2022! Edited September 25 by foreverblue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YeOldPitGate Posted Saturday at 08:42 AM Report Share Posted Saturday at 08:42 AM 17 hours ago, Roger Jacobs said: And the point I've made is that perhaps they haven't got lucky. Fricke's average has dropped dramatically - and it can be argued that for such a good, proven rider it shouldn't have fallen like that (more than Brennan's has fallen at Ipswich, and he's had a terrible season according to most). Fricke's average was still too high to guest for Holder in away matches until 1st September, so there must have been a great deal of luck involved to get it low enough ... Luck/manipulation average wise the point I'm making is out of all the available riders in the UK top league only one is on a par with Jack and that's max if he wasn't riding here this year they would be looking at one of the hot/cold brigade like Klindt or Lidsey which would make the final a shoe in for Belle Vue, now they have the one genuine world class option available they might be able to make a fight of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Youhave2minutes Posted Saturday at 08:52 AM Report Share Posted Saturday at 08:52 AM I think Sheffield are capable of being 2026 champs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WookieboyDon Posted 22 hours ago Report Share Posted 22 hours ago Apparently Dan Thompson has dislocated his shoulder in a training accident and will miss tomorrow night’s second leg. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mogmacrash Posted 17 hours ago Report Share Posted 17 hours ago 4 hours ago, WookieboyDon said: Apparently Dan Thompson has dislocated his shoulder in a training accident and will miss tomorrow night’s second leg. That could actually help Leicester with Thompson's suprisingly high average, meaning all the Lions can take his rides. However Castagna in for Howarth is like waving the white flag i'm afraid. (just my opinion of course) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SJA Posted 11 hours ago Report Share Posted 11 hours ago 6 hours ago, mogmacrash said: That could actually help Leicester with Thompson's suprisingly high average, meaning all the Lions can take his rides. However Castagna in for Howarth is like waving the white flag i'm afraid. (just my opinion of course) I'm sure Paco will clamp it on the white line for 3 or 4 points. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chun Posted 6 hours ago Report Share Posted 6 hours ago whats the laternatives; McDiarmid, Jeppesen, Scott. Maybe only Scott? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE DEAN MACHINE Posted 2 hours ago Report Share Posted 2 hours ago (edited) Track is a disgrace, plumes of dust in heat 1, no regard for fans Edited 2 hours ago by THE DEAN MACHINE 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Youhave2minutes Posted 2 hours ago Report Share Posted 2 hours ago 7 minutes ago, THE DEAN MACHINE said: Track is a disgrace, plumes of dust in heat 1, no regard for fans Oh lovely! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted 1 hour ago Report Share Posted 1 hour ago 44 minutes ago, THE DEAN MACHINE said: Track is a disgrace, plumes of dust in heat 1, no regard for fans Dr Dickson at it again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilTheAce Posted 1 hour ago Report Share Posted 1 hour ago Tonight is all about winning. Thats what the fans want. They not arsed about entertainment tonight. Just win and get to final 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted 1 hour ago Report Share Posted 1 hour ago 100% correct call 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilTheAce Posted 1 hour ago Report Share Posted 1 hour ago Still think sheffield have enough in 13 and 15 to bring this home Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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