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Please can we bin that long protracted interval after heat 10 , we fall in a heap after that most weeks

I'm almost certain that back in the old National league days, when I was a lad, there weren't any guests. R/R for heatleaders only and if both teams were operating R/R the #8's were promoted into the 1 to 7 at reserve with the top reserve promoted to the 1 to 5. Imagine the sales of pens at the track shop!! I'm sure a doctors note had to be provided as well. And all this before air fences and all the advancements in safety equipment. Of course the riders were probably riding on average twice a week so the probability of getting injured was less. Trouble is that guest riders are good news for promoters and riders alike so I guess they're here to stay despite the manipulation and lack of credibility they bring.

No reason at all, just copying the stupid (in my view) SON rules from last few years!

Someone made the decision, correct or not,,, if folk didn't look out for any updates or news on the big day out, what more could be done?

Completely agree. This meeting should have gone ahead. I for one will not travel far any more because of this and certainly not plan in advance.

Sport making a rock for its back as usual, the more they keep calling meetings off because of a "what if" means when it really is raining and they are wanting to get the meeting on, no one turns up because they will not believe it. Its like the boy who cried Wolf

Was a damn crime when they got rid of Teletext i tell ya.

They’re Aussies. Moaning comes naturally to them. They invented the expression “whinging Poms” to cover up the fact they’re the world’s best at whinging (I’d add a smiley face there but, for some reason, can’t)

If we're not careful we are going to have likes of Brennan, Kemp. Palin, Flint, and others in the next wave coming through who is under 23, unavailable pretty much every weekend from May to October as more and more under 23 under 21 under 18 mickt mouse Events take place in Europe. The main Event dates should be fixed and agreed so UK fixtures can be settled but micky mouse should not take precedence over CL fixtures. Especially on Fridays when 8 teams often racing.

I said to my friends ht 15 will be Pickering and Lawson.I just felt after his ht 12 win over Kurtz he was really up for it.I don't think iv'e seen any emotion from Lawson before but when he won that one their was a few fist pumps from him,like he thought he himself is back to where he should be.That reason alone i felt he was ready for ht 15 as he must have been pumped up to do it.

Take it from a local it was very wet!!!

Madness to regrade when your riders are doing well. It’s happening time and time again that the opposition are benefitting.

We usually only win the odd heat after the dreaded re-grade but managed three this time thankfully. We should only be pulling the dirt back if we are using gate pattern A, which has us using gates 1 & 3 three times in the last five heats. No one I can think of grades their track to their own disadvantage. Its this sh!t that almost cost us defeat against Edinburgh.

Two miles from the track and it was a steady drizzle from 7.30pm onwards , with a deluge at 8.50pm. So weather forecast was correct, early call off correct and if you can't be bothered to check websites before travelling boo hoo!

Dillon more than covered for him! Got 8+1 didn't he? Great result considering two riders got zero. Thanks Dillon for guesting, some of us appreciate your points! Oh and Glasgow lost out more with Tom not there imo. And Basso not winning a race, but almost did I hear!

From the fans of promotion who refused to stream grand final last season

Admittedly I think Czesztochowa would of still won fairly convincing anyway but Grudziadz are severely weakened by losing Pedersen - not to mention, they lost Tarasenko preseason too who was set for a big season I think. Was only Ostrow who were weak and then made the decision to release Klindt who is flying at the moment.

The second meeting will be over by Heat 4.

It's Glasgow it's always cold lol. Concern when it's bit heavier can get a bit one lineish going to suit the gating tarts worrall and Lawson

Considering what Rob said in the clubhouse after last weeks meeting that it was almost called off after he put new shale down & it did not bed in & turned to mush, what would the track be like after a possible deluge for the riders & fans. We do not want to see/read "from the gate after bend 2 after being filled in. Some riders packing in as could not see." It is not about the "now" but track prep & conditions later.

cue the "its not raining now" brigade

From the write up on this book: "James Lloyd Elder. Lloyd was known as 'Sprouts' due to a growth spurt in his teens"

But it's the old chicken and egg syndrome, if your struggling you can't/won't pay anybody for help, but if you do and it does not work you loose even more money, speedway is a hard market to do well, and has an older fan base, so going forward got to try and attract younger fans, who may see a good show on TV GP meetings, but then to see speedway at brough park, scunny etc on a cool evening takes a hell of a lot of selling, they are gonna need more than just 15 heats of speedway over 90 minutes. One thing I suggested to various comets promotion's but did not get taken up, is try to get a local singer/group who has a following, get them to put a few songs on, people may come to watch them, then enjoy the speedway, or the singer/group may get further booking from someone in the crowd for a party etc, then it's Wni win, more people come to speedway, singer/group get a booking. I know it's not easy but if nothing is tried crowds gets lower speedway folds.

You are quite right, would rather be winning by 10 than 20 but I feel after the start we've made this team has a decent chance of honours this year, to that end the two riders mentioned have had a bad week and need to do better, I'm sure they will. The beauty of the way the team is built is that somebody will usually step up if others are struggling.

The Prem may only have six clubs but it's far less predictable than the Champs which has massive gulf between sides and is only competitive in some cases due to dodgy guests.

You make a lot of good points, their could be a case for a guest for the missing No 1 rider but the guest for everything else has got completely out of hand again.

Yet other countries dont use them and run their leagues fine... Which shows that there very much is an alternative... For me, a fit for purpose RR system would replace guests at a thrice.. Last night for example Kurtz and Wright could have taken all Zagars rides up to a maximum of seven each, (if Lemon had wanted them to)... And promote Bailey into reserve and Brennan into number 2.. Years ago when the No1's ran 10/11 point plus averages and sometimes scored 40 - 50% of a teams points under the 13 heat formula, you can kind of see that they needed replacing.. Now the disparity in level between all the Heat Leaders and Second strings is much closer, as is the difference between Second Strings and Reserves.. So use that close level to put in an affective RR system... Bottom line is injuries happen in all sports and they find a way of not doing what UK Speedway does.. The truth is, is that it is the lazy, too easy way to run it, rather than find a way of running the sport "properly", and of course it provides riders with earning potential seven days a week...

He looked good at Kent on Sunday, 3 wins, including 1 over each of the Thompson Twins

I recently had to clean out my carport and in all the accumulated junk, I found a book that I had completely forgotten I possessed. It was written by the great American rider, Sprouts Elder and is called The Romance of The Speedway and it gives a wonderful insight to the pioneer days of speedway. The following paragraph reveals a little of the evolution that was going on in speedway machines before a standard was reached, not to mention revealing a few famous names as well! "Gus Kuhn, I believe, used to ride a Calthorpe when he first started. Jack Parker, of Coventry, preferred a B.S.A., while Billy Lamont at one time found in the A.J.S all that he wanted in the way of speed and acceleration. Then again Art Pechar was partial to the Indian 500c.c., while Ron Johnson and Sig Schlam, the Australians, used to ride Peashooter Harleys before they took to Douglas bikes." I've never heard of a Calthorpe, but I wonder if Jack Parker's B.S.A was a Sloper, which was popular as a speedway bike for a while in the 1930's. With it's forward inclined engine, the Sloper sort of proves that there is nothing new under the sun, especially when you look at todays "lay-down" style of bike. I suppose the former was good for speedway by accident, the latter by design. Ron Johnson and Sig Schlam were Western Australians and I think Schlam was killed racing at the Western Australian Cricket Association Ground, (the famous WACA). Speedway was run there for one or two years in the early 1930's, but couldn't compete with Claremont and closed down.

The top two in the NDL table go head-to-head at Shielfield on Saturday! Bullets: 1 Kyle Bickley, 2 Mason Watson, 3 Ace Pijper, 4 Greg Blair, 5 Luke Crang, 6 Kieran Douglas, 7 Ben Rathbone Royals: 1 Alfie Bowtell, 2 Jamie Halder, 3 Danno Verge, 4 Joe Alcock, 5 Ben Morley, 6 Chris Watts, 7 Sam Wooley. As well as the NDL racing, there will be an NJL mini-match, festuring Berwick's Academy youngsters and Redcar Cubs. All for a tenner! Which means you get 21 heats for your money at less than 50p per race! Bring it on!

To simple I would imagine.!!

As much as Tom himself being missing mucking about with riding order made us weaker. Put lot of pressure on basso and Hume. Lawson made a pass, I couldn't believe my eyes lol

Yes of course we’ll done to Ruml. Did a sterling job. Ben Cooks away for is a worry though. Very poor tonight. Zac is the better of the two imo. But a great performance when no one gave us a chance tonight. And Havelock is making all the right calls as well!

Only got a point cause he was missing. You seen him round ashfield? Fair play to Poole, took advantage of missing Tom and unfamiliar track conditions, but it's not a defeat and racing got better and better. Great nights entertainment

Dammed if you do, dammed if you don’t.. we’ve had a few showers but nothing to really do any damage to the track, and had electrical issues at the track… it’s just one of them really

Waaay over your tiny head

Why RR in NDL give the rides to an unattached rider

And how do you get teams to agree the rider missing is of equivalent level?

And on Tuesday June7th and Denmark the following day

5mm forecasted between 1 & 7 then dry and breezy but how reliable are forecasts. Track should hold up fine based on forecast. But what the riders think of conditions when they get there ......

I mean I'm all for releasing them for important fixtures to better themselves etc. But the U23 European cup? Does anyone really care?

Well done the Stars on there win - a 10 point win over one of the title favourites has to be a great result- so Kerr and Worral had a quite night I’m sure both will pay an important part in up coming meetings was still a 10 point win what some would like a 15-20 point win I guess

I really dislike guests but just like penalty shoot outs there isn't a workable alternative unfortunately.

An injured rider may re-take their position, dictated by their MA (with their replacement being released) regardless of average.

To much beer at the AFA lol. What a prat.

A few years ago now there was a rule where averages were split into home and away for guests so when at home you got up to their home average and sane for away. Stopped the horses for courses nonsense we get now where teams seemingly can strengthen time and again

Wolves to take a battering. Sheffield stronger across the board tonight from HL's to reserves.

Geoff be careful you may upset people again !!

Sport is passion though (or should be) and that's what some so called promoters should realise!

Just one person with one camera but I’d actually prefer to watch the whole meeting with this set up than any of the camera angles we got on Monday! You can actually see Howarth and Riss passing and re-passing here far more clearly.