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You need to make your mind up,one minute full of sarcasm about lack of information, then more sarcasm about the length of the meeting preview anyone would think you were an ignorant biased poster,but most of us are used to your drivel.

Gary said he had aggravated a shoulder injury. They knew at mid day so got Roynon in. I thought it was an entertaining meeting. The track rode well and there was some good passing. Nicholls and Lawson excellent, but rider of the meeting was Complin with his never say die wall of death blasts around the outside. What a shame he turned his back on the sport for 11 seasons. He was a talent in his youth and one wonders what career he would have had had he not quit.

BSN said Hans had aggravated his shoulder injury again. Roynon was there to commentate for BSN originally. He wore Atkins old kevlars. So very last minute.

Look no Hans!!?? And a superb rendition of God Save The Queen!!??

Truly refreshing to have two teams at full strength in both legs, no guests, no r/r........

Yes! Check the Referees scorecard!

Good meeting, poole look very strong going into next stage of the playoffs, can't afford to have one of the top 3 to have a bad meeting though as kemp and Ablitt are struggling imo,also zach cook is a weak link away from Wimborne Road.

Be shocked if wasn't back at Berwick

Congratulations to Poole a well deserved win but it feels weird that I’m proud of my team in defeat absolutely no qualms about anything tonight best team won but anyone who says small tracks is not good. For passing just look at tonight and you might take a different view Glasgow next Tuesday and that’s it for another season good luck to all 4 teams in the semi finals and may the best team win.

Not sure the move to the hounds was in his thoughts at all. Never heard any suggestion of that before. The rest I agree with though. For the six years he ran it, he upgraded the track and stadium and always invested heavily in the team (not always successfully). The end was always inevitable given the Bradford City fire and the scale of redevelopment required of a wooden stadium, the value of the land in Manchester and the relatively limited income potential of running a speedway/stock car venue. I also understand he had a divorce from Pat to pay for? Hyde Road, Plough Lane and Brandon are the nearest the sport has had to iconic venues....and they were all allowed to slip into the wrong hands and outside of British Speedway's control. The sport never has had any vision or long-term coherent strategy....hence its lost its most cherished assets. It's still a miracle the new Belle Vue got built. Chris Morton and David Gordon deserve a medal for that at the very least.

You're giving her too much credit.

Good meeting so far,cheerleaders on the centre green hope Shovlar doesn't get to excited.

Think I've heard this before https://www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/news/22316192.odsal-biggest-stadium-permanent-roof-country-new-plans/

well done good memory, its Garry clegg. now bloody 62 years old. And still enjoying my speedway. I thought i might have been remembered for all the tracks that closed down after i rode for them,.

Don't see Edinburgh having much if a chance against Leicester, but they do seem to be able to pull out good performances from time to time. After Poole's performance at Leicester on Saturday, I think they are now favourites for the league.

I'm devastated.

Just enough of a toss to reply without answering the question about the longest ever preview?!

I fully expect them to win but not by much, Pirates to be in self preservation mode, If Hans wants to do a dirty Nicki, move out of his way!

Thanks FB. Can't say i'm too bothered what Gazc thinks anyway

They certainly aren't planning on making it easy. Good old fashioned passionate promoting and journalism Good Luck to Plymouth, I'm sure most neutral observers will be hoping for the miracle. https://plymouth-speedway.com/meeting-preview-the-gladiators-v-the-pirates-playoff-qf/

100% In recent times all Clubs joing have had huge start up costs that often aren't publicised. Certainly Birmingham and Eastbourne in 2019 when moving up would have been in excess of 40k , Kent when moving up in 2020 although Lens "asset list" would have helped, Plymouth in 2021 the same although may have been eased only by Somerset late notfication to close, Brummies again when Masons left (understandably) and NT came in, meaning double whammy for Brummies from what Masons had to pay and then NT again I gather (as the issues with previous Brummies promotion in mid last decade didn't help too. Ditto all of that with Newcastle. What message does that give to anyone wanting to make something happen (as you rightly say Steve and with obvious experiences). It's all blamed on the Promotions that fail, or in some cases those that build teams that won't fail but on a shoestring but who don't have competitive teams as a result. A viscious circle, they to compete and over-spend and fail, or try to budget, be uncompetitive and fail. Godfrey is very honest about the way he runs Scunthorpe and it works for him, Bates brothers have openly admitted losing tens of thousands initially at Leicester but have deep pockets, deeper it seems than Owners at other Clubs who ran out of cash, it's good for us at Birmingham that Nigel seems determined to try again in 2023 but he's openly admitted in Speedway Star that his Company was covering costs from very early in 2022 and that the Club has lost a 6 figure sum so far. I don't know whether he's right to risk doing another season or not, only he does, but it simply isn't a sustainable business model. Individuals are responsible for their own affairs and live or die by them, but the SPORT and DIRECTORS of The Sport e.g the Management Committee really do need to wake up and smell the coffee and actually have the balls to create a Platform from which more existing Clubs, more returning Clubs and new Clubs have a chance of survival, stability and growth. It makes all the more remarkable the success of Oxford as an example, but how do we define success? Survival? Spending more than you earn and getting away with it year by year and hanging on? Having endless pockets and happy to support it like some (Glasgow and Leicester as an example)? Being one of the reducing few with the history and sustainability to contine (BV / Poole / Ipswich as examples)? Where though is "The Plan"....like the Poles have. Answer is "there is no plan" is there?

It would be a huge risk for anyone... A title winning team with world class riders couldnt attract enough punters when Speedway probably had, at least, double the crowds it gets now... And, unlike areas like Swindon, Coventry, Oxford and Birmingham, there hasnt been much of a concerted effort to try and bring Speedway back.. Maybe when they build that Superdome roof, meaning there wont be any rain off threats, it could then be viable...

Nah! Worth a try

Not til next season thanks!

I hope not!

Hume has had a very good season and is obviously a big miss, i met his dad at Leicester last season and was very impressed with his attitude and getting over his struggles, i think he is getting the rewards now and it is a shame he is injured. He is a very nice guy and deserves success. I feel whoever they get a guest replacement will not be as good but Ruml seems to be the best choice.

Is it the same plan that they submitted about 30 years ago?

I know there’s a lot of sniping between some Plymouth and some Poole fans so I’m trying to remain neutral but do the Plymouth fans feel let down by the “late withdrawal” of Hans Andersen? I can’t help feeling that it can’t have been that late or there wouldn’t have been time to bring in Adam Roynon. So was information about the change held back so as not to impact the crowd?

Bigger crowd at Downing Street drinks party!

Zielona Gora v Krosno play-off 2nd leg changed to Saturday September 24th start time 2pm UK time.

All the Glasgow heat leaders have had good nights at Poole, over both meetings i would say they probably just about have the edge but as you say it could go either way, what you can say is they are all going well at the moment. I think it will be two very close meetings and it could come down to the wire.

Thread must be something to do with Poole,Trackrat is on it

The motorcycle training school was on what is now a car park near where the Crystal Palace was until it burnt down.

Do the remaining NDL matches not count as competitive meetings? Mind you given the strength of the Armadale team, probably not (sadly)

Everything has conspired against them? Like what exactly?

Most accurate thing ever posted on here.

Can't see the overall result depending on that one race result so probably not that important whether King won it or not.

Plymouth are certainly trying for it . Best of luck guys .

Well done to all the riders who took part in the 2022 British final, all were competitive and give their all in every race, also well done to the track staff who maintained the racing surface in warm afternoon conditions. Dan Bewley was superb all afternoon although he did have to fight his way from the back on a number of occasions. Tom Brennan a real star for the future who pulled off some great passes. Craig Cook came back from a few weeks out injured and showed he has lost none of his racing hunger with some daring passes on bens four. Danny King was good value for his fourth place but was just edged out . All in all a great afternoon of racing, I hope the Star Wars characters collected plenty of cash for the BEN fund. Well done NSS for putting on a great show. Maryport 1st Bowthorn 3rd.

Remember, he'd already won the Master of Speedway in 1979, and in 1980, he scored a maximum in the WTC Final (defeating both Lee and Jessup), and was R/U (to Les Collins) in the BLRC, and R/U (to Mort) in the Inter-Continental Final. Plus, in the England-USA Test Series, he outscored them both again. It might have been a lot closer than you think!

So what your saying is a second division like the NL was in 2017/ 2018 when the likes of Eastbourne/ Kent/IOW /Birmingham were in it, before it was targeted as becoming too successful and forced to a far lower level like today, a level it seems unacceptable to the Dugards as not attracting a level of support that could be successful after start up costs.

Like has been said before Eastbourne speedway probably hasn't been financially viable since the halcyon Division 2/NL years of the 1970's bar maybe a couple of seasons after dropping into the 2nd tier in the mid 80's and the 3rd Division seasons a few years ago. Only Bob Dugard bankrolling it for years kept things going. Even then he nearly nearly pulled the plug during the early 1980's when the first move into the top flight was proving a big struggle and this in a time when crowds were bigger than those seen in modern times. One wonders how keen Bob Dugard would have been to keep speedway going at Arlington in the 80's had his son Marin Dugard not developed into the brilliant speedway rider he was? I think British speedways is soon coming to a point where only two Leagues will be viable - a top flight for the clubs who can afford to stay professional and pay overseas riders, tracks running on nights best suited to them, ETC and a 2nd Division a little bit stronger than the current National League featuring only British riders and Commonwealth riders and run mainly on weekends and riders part time. - When this scenario arrives which I predict will happen in the next couple of years then the likes of Eastbourne and other defunct tracks will stand a better chance of reopening?

Can say anything about the meeting, as i didn't watch. What i will say about Facebook, at least a couple of pieces i saw, was the poor choice of rostrum photo. Looks terrible so far away and showing the 3 riders on a rostrum in what basically looks like an empty stadium !!! How not to show the sport as having atmosphere and meaning.......honestly

Please no more Ostergaard. One of Andersen or Nicholls at reserve maybe but not all of them. We need change.

I think Glasgow will have a little too much for Plymouth over the two legs.

Anybody know who was taking some practice laps after the meeting last night? Heard it was an Aussie rider using an ex Max Fricke bike?

We were sat almost on the line in the 'Grandstand' and Kyle Howarth definitely got it - ref made right decision. Fair play to Poole for coming back into the Match when they looked to be on the receiving end of maybe 8 or 10 points loss at one stage. Lions - poor start to the match, vast improvement after 4 races - Richie Worrall great, Kyle Howarth trying his heart out ( probably cost him a point or two ), Nick Morris again very fast but stuffed Howarth up good and proper in Heat 13, Thompson Twins were fine, Connor Mountain a night to forget and Max Clegg OK but never quite there. Pirates - Great start to the match, Danny King / Steve Worrall & Richard Lawson always in with a shout, Cook brothers better than last time, Drew Kemp more than did his job and Nathan Ablitt a bit out of his depth despite somehow leading Race 2 until he unfortunately 'binned' it under pressure from JT Lions won but somehow feels like a loss given only a narrow margin to take to Poole - cannot see Danny King having another poor meeting on Wed as he did when Lions defeated Pirates earlier in the season and I worry about our reserves there this time around. Also - gotta say it was a terrific ride by Kyle Howarth to win Heat 13 on the line against a very quick Danny King! Two good teams on view last night

Me too. Put bikes on the track and I'll happily turn up to watch them. As others have said, the real problem is clubs having control over fixtures. If you give them control, they will manipulate it - why wouldn't you, if it helps you? Take control away from the clubs. Tell them who they're racing, and when. Let them deal with the consequences. They'll find riders if they have to.

What do you mean it's falling apart? Is the terracing dangerous? If it's OK for stock car fans it's OK for us isn't it?

I believe it is but on a much smaller site?