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There you go again…..how in God’s name do you know he’d prefer the Workington track? He’s been a master at Armadale for years. You just open your mouth and let it flow, don’t you?

How about waiting until the actual 1-7 is announced before making predictions on the coming 2024 season?

Craig Cook would make an ideal number one for Workington. He is local, a solid rider, certainly at Championship level, and would certainly prefer the Workington track to the tight turns of Edinburgh. Good luck to him if he chooses to continue his career in the sport.

If it's correct It's a 38 point team, the league is achieving exactly what they want by diluting the championship down. The window on Poland has been all but closed. I know by responding to your nonsense it'll be classed as "biting" but the reality is that every team in this league is going to be far weaker for 2024.

If Ace could take the bulk Lee needs to lose, the two would both be set fair.

Quite a lot of riders have good sponsors large and small all add up, these are used to cover machinery costs, travel money is paid by the promotion home and away, so points money is the riders pay, if you are the better rider scoring 8 - 10 points they could have a pay packet well of over £1000 a meeting, twice a week 25 meetings is 25k or more in just over 6 months, I have to work 40 hours a week 52 weeks a year for that figure. Yes the young riders have to start at the bottom on less money, but how many are full time speedway riders ?? Not having a go at the riders, it's a dangerous sport but they have to be reasonable when talking to clubs, just because this is in the comets section it applies to all speedway clubs. Thoughts anyone ?

Shovlar standing in judgment of Glasgow, good job some people don't judge him by his s.h.p.o or he would have no friends. Who would want him as a mate.

Well I do normally get to be aware of signings soon after they happen. But in confidence means that I certainly wouldn’t post what I hear/know on this forum. If I did, I certainly wouldn’t be told anything. And I would assume the same goes for others on here from other clubs.

No its not , if this does happen to be the 2024 side it looks like having an all British team makes it easier to arrange and rearrange fixtures without having to worry about losing riders to any fixtures abroad same as what has happened in the past .

I’m beginning to think you are not a wind up merchant after all and that you actually BELIEVE the absolute rubbish you spout. Dearie me!

Christ no, don't want that lot with us again.

Expert on Glasgow finances now.What next.!!!

A little help from Dan engine wise will get him up to speed

I don't think they are. Consider Ellis's last 2 years' form around the NSS. League & Play offs. 0,3,1,2 =6 0.1',0,1 =2+1 2,2,0,3,1 =8 0,0,0,2 =2 0,2,2,1',0,1' = 6+2 NSS AVERAGE = 4.17

Stefan Kwoczala was Polish champion in 1959 and seventh in the World Final the following year. He rode for Leicester that year but was only allowed one season of racing in Britain and returned to ride in the Polish domestic league in 1961. Sadly, he suffered serious head injuries in a track crash in May of that year which effectively ended his career. Who knows what he might otherwise have achieved.

As i say parody of a know it all.

So you’re not as much in the know as you’ve always made out then……….just a blabber mouth full of self importance?

He is not a wind up merchant he is a parody of a wind up merchant. And not even a good parody.

That's it we should all take our opinion from Steve shovlar . Let's hope rumour you're off to "save the prem" are true

The latest rumour. And just a rumour may I add. Is that Poole are moving up

Thankfully for us he knows absolutely nothing and I mean nothing.

It’s probably down to finances. Glasgow 2023 cost an absolute fortune and with not very large crowds probably cost Faccena a small fortune. Bringing in Tarasenko would have cost an arm and a leg and perhaps now Faccena has won a title he is going to cut his cloth to fit the clubs income. That 2024 team would cost way less than 2023.

Ace looking to get a 5 are u serious ... I'll have some of what ur smoking

Riders can "demand" what they want, but the promoters don't have to pay it, if they feel that the "demand" is excessive.

How many years do you need to get Starkey on good machinery.

Tbh, I don't think that's relevant. Fans need to decide if they think the price is value for money. If they don't think it is & stop attending, it won't matter if the promotion knows more than the fans i.e how much it costs to put meetings on. I'll use Justin Sedgmen as an example, I've seen interviews, where he explains how expensive Speedway is, with tuning, travel expenses etc as a reason for riders deserving more money. But that's not how a business works - a promotion can only pay out, what comes in (unless they are willing to lose money). If clubs only get 500 attending matches, the riders wages should be based on this income (plus sponsorship), riders can't just demand more money to pay for the very best equipment!

Wish Craig all the best wherever he goes.

As long-time speedway journalist John used to be a regular on the 'Years Gone By' thread, I thought it best to make a quick post on here. John sadly passed away on October 14 at the age of 91. There is a thread on 'General Discussions', so I don't know if it would be possible to combine the two on here.

Sam mcgurk just announced as 1st comet for 2024 happy with that

And Chris Harris (E/F)?

He used Old Don on the London Speedways proboards site. Along with John Hyam, there were contributions from Jack Keen of Erith, Olddon, Gustix and Mrs. Gustix, who we were assured was posting in her own right. The purpose was to make the site look busy during quiet times.

If only we had the Internet back then...

Ah, the days when birds were happy for a bunch of drooling men to see them in various stages of undress...

Poole will not be moving up,they are not as big a club as they used to be. Staying in the championship is proof of this.

Kerr Berwick possibly.

He certainly looked a fine prospect. In the closing weeks of the 1960 season his UK scores in consecutive meetings (four at Leicester, four away) were 14 (from 5 rides), 15 (5), 14 (5), 14 (5), 14+1 (6), 13+2 (6), 15 (5), 15 (5). CMA 10.86.

Yes, I agree. I saw him. couple of times in 1960 and thought he looked really good.

Maybe thats why Cook is heading up North then as he will also represent you in the top flight.

Got to work to get cash for me holidays

At least they have the money to lose.Unlike Workington who won everything at great expense to the riders and everybody else they owed money too when they went down the tubes.

Just got to look at back issues of speedway star after the season has finished, several times it said Glasgow s "success" has cost a small fortune, even quoted after Poole threw the title away that the owners had invested over £3 million since taking over the club, yes Glasgow are still running but probably at a high cost to the owners every year.

Cooks are both at Poole in 2024!!

RIP John .

Boris put a message on a bus saying how much better off we'd be if we left the EU and a lot of people bought that!!

I think it would be fair to say that the riders have far too much influence.

May you rest in peace John.

Very sad news. John, old friend, May you Rest in Peace. +

Maybe should have typed this in bold... A true font of knowledge and someone who truly lived through the halcyon days of the sport and covered it too... Always good value on here to get a debate going, and often, stirred up..! RIP John...

I'm thinking he would have been okay with Multiple 'thread' tributes?

I think Lee and bomber are good characters to have around the pits and for interaction with the fans too. Was reminiscent of the never to be forgotten Danny ayres in the Oxford and Poole meetings with Lee