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1. Leagues to be run on the Danish system of 5 rider teams with maximum of 1 GP rider per team. 2. Each team to name a squad of 6/7 riders. 3. Teams to run on their preferred night and if rider/riders are unavailable, National League riders to be drafted in. 3a. No guests under any circumstances, redeclarations allowed once per month. 4. North League; Belle Vue, Sheffield, Berwick, Edinburgh, Glasgow, Redcar and Workington. South League: Poole, Ipswich, Kings Lynn, Leicester, Oxford, Plymouth and Scunthorpe. 5. Teams having National League teams to stage meetings after main meeting with same format as Danish system. 6. Teams not having National League teams to stage second half with minimum of 6 heats. 7. North and South winners and second places to meet in semi finals and final. 8. League cup to consist of all teams and drawn in first round with 1 from North and 1 from South. Overall winners of each match through to quarter final with team losing with highest aggregate score to go through also. This is all fantasy, but something needs to be done now. Everyone to look at the big brighter future and get over themselves.5 points
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If a PL & CL merger is confirmed, expect some CL clubs to be shafted when it comes to allocating riders, as has happened in the past in 1965 & 1995.4 points
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The millions of pounds worth of prize money difference between finishing 2nd or 3rd makes it a huge meeting3 points
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I don't think it'd make a blind bit of difference to crowd levels, that's down to marketing and the entertainment at the event, not the rules.3 points
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But the rain off was in August, so even if that was the last fixture there would still be an issue now !! I watch stock car racing regularly and I distinctly remember one 'summer' where I got drenched on all 5 Saturday's in August. No matter when you run the season there will be meetings postponed.3 points
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1. Leagues to be run on the Danish system of 5 rider teams with maximum of 1 GP rider per team. 2. Each team to name a squad of 6/7 riders. 3. Teams to run on their preferred night and if rider/riders are unavailable, National League riders to be drafted in. 3a. No guests under any circumstances, redeclarations allowed once per month. 4. North League; Belle Vue, Sheffield, Berwick, Edinburgh, Glasgow, Redcar and Workington. South League: Poole, Ipswich, Kings Lynn, Leicester, Oxford, Plymouth and Scunthorpe. 5. Teams having National League teams to stage meetings after main meeting with same format as Danish system. 6. Teams not having National League teams to stage second half with minimum of 6 heats. 7. North and South winners and second places to meet in semi finals and final. 8. League cup to consist of all teams and drawn in first round with 1 from North and 1 from South. Overall winners of each match through to quarter final with team losing with highest aggregate score to go through also. This is all fantasy, but something needs to be done now. Everyone to look at the big brighter future and get over themselves.3 points
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Lots of failing businesses bring in a troubleshooter to assess their business model, operating model, and customer service plan... If such a person were asked to come in I am sure they would suggest the following.... * Open your doors when your customers want you to open, not when your employees tell you they can work... * Stop opening your doors knowing you havent enough staff, meaning you end up borrowing employees from your competition, which isn't a good look... * Set a payroll budget and stick to it, and ensure your marketing budget is sufficient to generate the required interest and population reach. Don't overpay employees to the detriment of the marketing budget... * Collectively market the business nationally and target families with young kids with all season round offers, given you are in the entertainment business... * Take every opportunity when on TV to make your premises look full, and make it somewhere those watching at home would want to visit... * Ensure what you are delivering to your customers has credibility, integrity, and is done at a competitive price point that accurately reflects the quality of what you provide, not what you think you actually provide... * Have a customer focused refund system should you not he able to provide the required service on any given night, especially to those who have travelled from further afield to attend your establishment... * Have clear, unambiguous Quality Control measures in place that all must follow to ensure the brand is never damaged. As you are only as strong as your weakest link... * And. As you are only as strong as your weakest link, ensure all work for the overall good of the business, and never in isolation.. I am sure there are plenty of other suggestions too...3 points
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Can't just think about one club blue,speedway as a sport is going down the pan,everybody needs to widen their outlook and consider the wellbeing of all clubs3 points
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Well well well. The mighty Ipswich crumbling at home to the fast track specialists. play offs come at a perfect time for the tigers2 points
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Hi made it in time for heat 3. There was a mysterious electrical fault affecting the refās controls, which held things up for another five minutes. This should have been held at KL, then it wouldnāt have started until 8:15 ⦠although, thinking about it, if it were at KL the match would have been called off yesterday ā¦2 points
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Modern day riders across the board think everybody owes them a living and are beyond greedy when it comes to money. Very few if almost any would do anything for nothing, not like back in the 80s. Yes I realise they need to spend on machinery etc etc but they all make far more than the average working man so you'd think they'd give something back. This along with unreasonable admission prices is among other things that's destroying Speedway.2 points
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A few years ago many people said the same for October, it'll be August next! Rain can happen at any time of year.2 points
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Last night wasn't the original staging of the meeting, that was last week in August if you remember, and if it could have been ran Monday or Tuesday it would have been on, both days in September however Ipswich have planned today, in September Doesn't matter when you plan to run, it can rain in this country2 points
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How do you know if the Ipswich track has adequate drainage (let alone "adequate enough")? The huge amount of track work done in recent years has also included changes to the drainage - which is limited to some extent by whatever already there (a stadium built in the 1940/50s and a speedway track originally constructed in 1968. And, of course, the duration and volume of rain is a contributing factor. Trolls never let reason or facts get in the way.2 points
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Id take issue with your statement of "as often happens" re injuries and withdrawals early in matches I have no data but I'd expect the number of times a side has lost 2 riders in a match is tiny So no different to running IRR now - certainly not the reason to reject a change that could provide far more positives than potential issues2 points
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Good idea, sadly you just know that whatever was delivered would be shambolic and embarrassing. Cricket is an interesting comparison because they've reinvented their sport as something fast paced, entertaining, and appealing to the younger generation. If only our sport was set up for that sort of crowd, what with 60-second races, music, entertainment opportunities and high speed motorsport....2 points
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If you could get Poole and Glasgow to join the "Super League" then that would be eight teams, (if all current ones stay in the top league).. Just 40 riders needed, at five per team, currently 85 ride in the two top leagues.. These eight can then ride in "Div 2" (if they want to), meaning the likes of Glasgow can still run at a lower level against "local rivals", and Poole can race on Wednesday's still... Utopia would be a 14 team Div 2, ran at Championship (ish), level, with a decent few KO Cup rounds, with the top four from the 14 team league meeting in the play offs... 20 ish meetings per season, if all teams ran in Div 2, and all done following the Danish model, meaning plenty of rides for the riders, and, given logistics, plenty of guest opportunities too for them as the season progresses... Make the "Super League" guest free, and sell it as the pinnacle of the sport, with credibility and integrity...2 points
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Bring back the 4 Team Tournament,Going back we also had the silver helmet match race over 3 heats.2 points
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Surely that was back in the day when the British league and National league were separately managed and administered. Many would say now that the Championship should be separately managed!! Mr Morris was brought in as Chief Exec of the Premiership only - nothing to do with Championship or NDL/NDT!!2 points
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Wasn't there so can't comment on the actual performance. Just saying that you can't assume that Sheffield would have finished top. Anything could have happened last night that could have affected performances today. It just seems that every season, supposed supporters of speedway seem to want to spend the whole time ripping it to pieces and finding fault with it rather than enjoying what we have. The table is what it is, the playoffs are what they are. Whether you agree with them or not, that is how the sport functions now. Better to embrace it than vilify it. Speedway is a secondary sport to me as I was brought up on 4 wheeled motorsport and spend my weekends travelling the country watching stock car racing. By the same token as many on here say about speedway, stock car racing is nowhere near the sport it was in the 70s and 80s, but you can either let that get you down and moan about it, or you can enjoy what you have while it is still there. I have said for a while that stock car racing has 10-15 years left as either environmentalists or H&S will bring it to an end. I don't want to be sat there when it is all gone wishing I had done more, I would much rather get the most out of what is on offer while I still can.1 point
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Well that is so embarrassing for the Ipswich riders, needing to be beaten away to then decide to turn up at home, if thatās the case they have disrespected all the paying home fans, so I would suggest the above is untrue or there would be many unhapppy fans. Also, Brennan commented that Sheffield were gating better and we have things still to work on for next week. So letās as Ipswich fans, stop making excuses for them.1 point
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Letās see if Ipswich win anything this season. There is a difference between doom and gloom and reality. If you are getting beaten at home then itās not a good look. If itās a nothing meeting then donāt expect fans to spend Ā£24 to watch a training match. BS in my opinion. Iām all for Ipswich winning the title and Iād celebrate as much as the next guy, but just because Iām honest in my opinion when itās against the team as well doesnāt mean itās doom and gloom. 3 peopleā¦Emil, Doyle and Brennan wonāt win you a meeting alone, I should know, Iām also a Gorzow fan š1 point
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The doom and gloom from some fans in here! Sheffield wanted to win more to get 2nd spot thus meaning home leg second leg against Leicester ā¦.. absolutely nothing on this meeting for Ipswich except stay out of trouble No Ipswich rider tried when behind they didnāt need to This match means nothing come the play offs1 point
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if anything that result as just given us a better chance & more confidence š1 point
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Is the Official end of season not still the last day in October.? Think it used too be.1 point
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Noooo ... if you don't make playoffs your season is potentially over by mid August. Its short enough already.1 point
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Seven teams, riding 12 home meetings meant eighty four matches in total.. If you started in April and finished by August end that is 43 Mondays and Thursdays combined.. 43 Monday and Thursdays on which to run... Take out the GP week and that leaves 41 nights for UK Speedway... Six teams racing twice per week, one home and one away meeting, (which is perfectly feasible given fixed race night priorty was the reason for having them), and that would allow a maximum 123 matches to take place during that 41 evening timeline, (3 matches Monday, 3 Thursday).. We needed to complete just 84 matches, not 123.. And that would still have left September completely free.. Given those munbers were so heavily stacked in their favour, and even with the KO Cup, (which starts at the QF stage), and Poland just using the odd Thursday whenever they saw fit, the optics of a "professional sport" not completing any league, let alone its "flagship league" doesnt look good does it? Some tracks went three weeks without a meeting, which, given you can make lifetime habits change in just 28 days, that is also a risk to its attendance numbers, let alone league completion... Loads of fixed nights on which to race, yet we will still have meetings potentially ran after the winners of the same competition have been declared..1 point
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The first division in 1970 had 19 teams. Of those 7 teams, Belle Vue, Coventry, Halifax, King's Lynn, Wembley, Cradley and Swindon raced on Saturdays, so hardly a minority !!1 point
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You are correct, he was and he doesnāt. As it is today, UK speedway is already teetering on oblivion being well short of any concise growth plan as promoters focus on self serving survival, which as things stand will ultimately be the death knell for UK professional speedway. Being mindful of the existing structure of the sports governing bodies from the FIM down, the last thing needed is to have separate groups of promoters in collectively further working against each other and the greater good of the sport. Truth of the matter is. There are too few riders available for the number of promotions. Most of the stadiums in use are outdated and provide poor spectator facilities. There is an over dependence on doubling up to keep promotions active. The guest system is overused. The sporting media by and large steer wide of covering speedway because of its self serving and contrived organisation. The current crop of promoters do not have the wherewithal to steer the sport to better times, only to tread water until they eventually āgo underā Fans think a few changes (if any) are all that is required whereas a great number of factors impact on one another to make the solution complicated and in itself is the very reason why promoters do not wish to bite the bullet and so things remain the same.1 point
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There'd never be a wet meeting run with the Holders in town š1 point
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Thatās what you get when you get the ābusiness endā of the season in September, Iām sure many play offs matches will also be affected! One day they will learn!1 point
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Who made that decision? You'd think it would benefit both clubs to race it at Scunthorpe? Scunthorpe fans may turn up in greater numbers for one more chance to see Speedway at home before the winter break!1 point
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We were on back straight going into 3rd bend and it didnāt look wet to us either, what was different though was the only line was right by fence and thatās not how WrocÅaw usual is1 point
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5 man teams required then initially until such time as can attract others from around the world back or produce more home grown1 point
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I agree. We were on the first bend, row 9, and it didn't look overly wet to us.1 point
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This seems good - I much prefer people who qualify for the series than wildcards.1 point
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Poole are the only team trying to get the fixtures sorted. That's why they are mostly 1st legs. We don't mind lifting trophies at away matches. Why do we have to wait to play Oxford, yes a riders ban will be finished.1 point
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Not sure when Redcar are going to fit theirs in on as they have only one free Friday in September and that is because they are at home to Glasgow on a Sunday. So will they run a home meeting on 12th and 14th? Otherwise it's first week of October! ššš Unless they use another off night. British Speedway still horrendous at planning the end of season meetings.1 point
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What is this problem that some people have with Simon lambert? Simon is still a very good rider and still a big influence in the pits with his wealth of experience and still gives 100% on the track.He has,and still is,a loyal servant to the club,a rider who gives 100% regardless who he rides for so instead of getting on his back,be grateful for a rider who bleeds Scunthorpe scorpions!1 point
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Whatever they do, the must have the plan to get more people into their tracks... By whatever means necessary... Big crowds means better atmosphere, and better atmosphere means better meetings (regardless of the actual racing quality), and delivers that virtuous circle of people wanting to attend again... And interests potential sponsors and media... Most races, regardless of whether GP or NDL riders are racing, are from the gate and strung out, and has been that way since I started watching in 1969... The difference being the size of the crowd maintains the atmosphere which then generates the repeat visits... Although, the caveat is it also must be allied to you having an emotional attachment to your team, which currently isn't the case given so many times "your team" are not really "your team".... Kurtz and Bewley are great to watch on a Monday, but, I would almost guarantee, many more would watch them on a Friday or Saturday... Which shows that those nights are key... The challenge therefore is to use those nights more.. The personnel on show may be different though than what many "die hards" would want to watch, but there isn't enough of them currently to justify continuing on the same pathway... Alternatively of course, they could just run the sport properly and make the sport credible with some decent reward and kudos for winning, and have an admiisson cost, and marketing strategy that brings people in.. And, therefore keep doing it on a Monday and a Thursday.. That though, so far, has proved somewhat elusive hasn't it?...1 point
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That was for 2024 after we lost Peterborough and Wolverhampton, and the Premiership was facing going down to 5 teams. Chris Louis was considering opening at Northampton to give an extra track. In the end Birmingham moved up and Oxford did all leagues, so the Premiership was back to 7, and Northampton wasn't needed.1 point
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Agree but perhaps giving the punter what they want with a weekend race night does possibly reduce the odds of losing so much money. Speedway use to be a good weekend sport but alas circumstances dictate that it is not possible albeit NDL teams seem to cope. This is possibly why a rethink is necessary and perhaps go backwards first in order to progress. I would rather go to a Saturday evening meeting or a Sunday afternoon meeting than go mid week. Thursday is OK but after that having been brought up on Friday, Saturday and Sunday meets I would not bother with any weekday/ mid week racing. Just my view and others may feel different but promoters should race on nights which give them a best chance of a return on the asset/investment.1 point
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I used to go to meetings with soldier boy met him when i was staying in the union jack club in london as i was going to Kings lynn v Belle Vue by train, he was going along too we missed the last train back and had to thumb it remember him eating all the drivers sandwiches. š¤£1 point