Glasgow Tigers Vs Poole Pirates 6/6/25

[Noelinho]

17 minutes ago, MD said:

Definitely, Kyle and Leon avoided the dirt and stuck to the inside line to no avail whilst Poole adapted quickly. There was an inevitability about the meeting after the ht11 break. We are not as good as we think.

Whilst it was good we pulled it back level in heat 11, it was obvious 12/13/14 were bad for us. 12/14 certainly, and 13 was a 50/50.

Anders Rowe and Tobias Thomsen were both really good last night. We need our reserves to find a little more speed. If we can help them improve, we're still a very good team.

[Noelinho]

1 minute ago, Steve Shovlar said:

Poole are far from last years team in terms of strength and quality. So last night came as a pleasant surprise that we turned over the clear favourites for this season on their own patch. Wonder what the score would have been if Boughen had been riding instead of Barker.

We are definitely not clear favourites. There is no clear favourite this year - it looks quite even overall. We need to stop with the whole Glasgow/Poole will/should win everything nonsense. It's much more competitive than that.

[Arthur54]

3 minutes ago, Noelinho said:

We are definitely not clear favourites. There is no clear favourite this year - it looks quite even overall. We need to stop with the whole Glasgow/Poole will/should win everything nonsense. It's much more competitive than that.

Redcar 

[topaz325]

3 minutes ago, Noelinho said:

We are definitely not clear favourites. There is no clear favourite this year - it looks quite even overall. We need to stop with the whole Glasgow/Poole will/should win everything nonsense. It's much more competitive than that.

In my opinion it’s between Poole Redcar and Glasgow .

At the moment Poole look like the team to beat but injuries could play a part In the final reckoning. 

[foreverblue]

4 minutes ago, Noelinho said:

We are definitely not clear favourites. There is no clear favourite this year - it looks quite even overall. We need to stop with the whole Glasgow/Poole will/should win everything nonsense. It's much more competitive than that.

I think Redcar are the favourites, Glasgow and Poole are challengers but not favourites.

[Fromafar]

7 minutes ago, foreverblue said:

I think Redcar are the favourites, Glasgow and Poole are challengers but not favourites.

Think it’s pretty even between them 3.Glasgow definitely need DanT back and in good form.IMO

[LisaColette]

It is way more unpredictable than usual. Poole have drawn at Oxford, Oxford have won at Poole, Glasgow have won at Oxford and Poole have won at Glasgow. So much for home wins!  Using BSN for the Oxford/Poole ones. 

[Gazc]

41 minutes ago, Steve Shovlar said:

Poole are far from last years team in terms of strength and quality. So last night came as a pleasant surprise that we turned over the clear favourites for this season on their own patch. Wonder what the score would have been if Boughen had been riding instead of Barker.

All ifs buts and maybes , yes you turned us over deservedly but there is a long way to go.

As we all know a lot can happen for and against you in this sport.

Just hope we can get Dan back sooner rather than later guaranteed double figures every week and things may have been different last night with Dan.

Ashton I doubt we will see again this season it really depends on what rabbit we can pull out the Tarrasenko hat.

Enjoy your deserved win last night but don’t get too far ahead of yourself a long long way to go.

And who cares on the Boughen, Barker scenario in it’s like me going on about Edwards scoring more than Cook who cares.

[TheWellBehavedWorrall]

A bitterly disappointing result last night.

Let’s not beat around the bush, our financial muscle and elaborate team building during the winter rendered us favourites for the title, so a home loss to a fellow challenger is a shambles of a result.

Congratulations to Poole, of course. That was a professional and efficient performance.

Flint was a disgrace. Chucking the towel in his first two rides was just as unacceptable as the 5-1 he conceded to Edwards and Starke in heat 12. You just knew he didn’t have it in him to give us any sort of hope in heat 14.

Howarth was dreadful. Passed by Rowe in heat 4, passed by Thomsen in heat 5 and just one point across his two final rides; one of which was a last place in  heat 13 which essentially clinched it for Poole. Nowhere near good enough.

Watching Flint and Howarth be smoked around the outside by lesser away riders was utterly painful viewing.

Dare I also say that had Boughen been riding, not Barker, then Poole would likely have secured victory earlier in the meeting.

Cami Brown telling BSN he has ”no complaints” before complaining about the referee not excluding Starke for breaching the two minutes was brain damage. If you read this forum, Cami, you’re the team manager. The leader. You need to lead by example and demonstrate accountability, acknowledge where improvements are needed and focus on what we can control, like the other 14 heats where every rider had ample opportunity to contribute.

It’s a long season and there is sufficient time for improvement, but those are the meetings markers are laid down.

[TheWellBehavedWorrall]

A non-result related complaints I think it’s worth mentioning too.

Is there a limit on track grading? Those tractors did more laps than Flint. That’s probably the biggest thing I’ve noticed since returning to the sport; the excessive volume of delays to accommodate track grading, but last night was brutal.

Really poor to see so many Poole riders turn and go back into the pits without doing a lap of honour. There were Poole fans in the main stand and you couldn’t miss them with their flags. They’ve travelled a long way to see you secure an important win; acknowledge them. I’m not even a Poole fan and I thought that was poor. Anders Rowe passed Howarth in heat 4 then smoked Harris in his next one; straight back to the pits. Where’s the passion? It’s painful to see. Tai Woffinden was spot on; riders need to interact with fans, whether it’s on the track or after meetings.

Last one: the person controlling the music at Ashfield needs replaced. I refuse to call him or her a DJ. A clash of the titans fixture in the Championship, first versus second, the 2023 champions against the 2024 champions and Rick Astley is playing over the tannoy. I felt like I was at 18th birthday party in 1985.

Edited yesterday at 07:05 PM by TheWellBehavedWorrall

[TracksideView]

17 hours ago, TheWellBehavedWorrall said:

A non-result related complaints I think it’s worth mentioning too.

Is there a limit on track grading? Those tractors did more laps than Flint. That’s probably the biggest thing I’ve noticed since returning to the sport; the excessive volume of delays to accommodate track grading, but last night was brutal.

Really poor to see so many Poole riders turn and go back into the pits without doing a lap of honour. There were Poole fans in the main stand and you couldn’t miss them with their flags. They’ve travelled a long way to see you secure an important win; acknowledge them. I’m not even a Poole fan and I thought that was poor. Anders Rowe passed Howarth in heat 4 then smoked Harris in his next one; straight back to the pits. Where’s the passion? It’s painful to see. Tai Woffinden was spot on; riders need to interact with fans, whether it’s on the track or after meetings.

Last one: the person controlling the music at Ashfield needs replaced. I refuse to call him or her a DJ. A clash of the titans fixture in the Championship, first versus second, the 2023 champions against the 2024 champions and Rick Astley is playing over the tannoy. I felt like I was at 18th birthday party in 1985.

Someone give him a cuddle, his whinging is hurting everyone's ears. 

[mikebv]

19 hours ago, TheWellBehavedWorrall said:

A non-result related complaints I think it’s worth mentioning too.

Is there a limit on track grading? Those tractors did more laps than Flint. That’s probably the biggest thing I’ve noticed since returning to the sport; the excessive volume of delays to accommodate track grading, but last night was brutal.

Really poor to see so many Poole riders turn and go back into the pits without doing a lap of honour. There were Poole fans in the main stand and you couldn’t miss them with their flags. They’ve travelled a long way to see you secure an important win; acknowledge them. I’m not even a Poole fan and I thought that was poor. Anders Rowe passed Howarth in heat 4 then smoked Harris in his next one; straight back to the pits. Where’s the passion? It’s painful to see. Tai Woffinden was spot on; riders need to interact with fans, whether it’s on the track or after meetings.

Last one: the person controlling the music at Ashfield needs replaced. I refuse to call him or her a DJ. A clash of the titans fixture in the Championship, first versus second, the 2023 champions against the 2024 champions and Rick Astley is playing over the tannoy. I felt like I was at 18th birthday party in 1985.

This is progress...

Not long ago it used to be "K-tels Hits Of The 70's" at most tracks...

"Not 'alf mate"....

[topaz325]

5 minutes ago, mikebv said:

This is progress...

Not long ago it used to be "K-tels Hits Of The 70's" at most tracks...

"Not 'alf mate"....

I do an awful lot of work for Charittty but I dont like to talk about it.

[TheWellBehavedWorrall]

2 hours ago, TracksideView said:

Someone give him a cuddle, his whinging is hurting everyone's ears. 

Several valid, constructive points made and this is the response, I assume from a grown adult.

The definition of a low IQ response.

[David]

21 hours ago, TheWellBehavedWorrall said:

Really poor to see so many Poole riders turn and go back into the pits without doing a lap of honour. There were Poole fans in the main stand and you couldn’t miss them with their flags. They’ve travelled a long way to see you secure an important win; acknowledge them. I’m not even a Poole fan and I thought that was poor. Anders Rowe passed Howarth in heat 4 then smoked Harris in his next one; straight back to the pits. Where’s the passion? It’s painful to see. Tai Woffinden was spot on; riders need to interact with fans, whether it’s on the track or after meetings.

Last one: the person controlling the music at Ashfield needs replaced. I refuse to call him or her a DJ. A clash of the titans fixture in the Championship, first versus second, the 2023 champions against the 2024 champions and Rick Astley is playing over the tannoy. I felt like I was at 18th birthday party in 1985.

Agree re lack of interaction by any race winners, not just the Pirates on Friday.

Rick Astley's first hit wasn't until 1987 but the point is still valid. It was an 80s playlist after 6pm but at least there was no Bert Kampfaert, Dean Martin or the dire 'We're the Glasgow Tigers'...

[SteelShoe]

21 hours ago, TheWellBehavedWorrall said:

A non-result related complaints I think it’s worth mentioning too.

Is there a limit on track grading? Those tractors did more laps than Flint. That’s probably the biggest thing I’ve noticed since returning to the sport; the excessive volume of delays to accommodate track grading, but last night was brutal.

Really poor to see so many Poole riders turn and go back into the pits without doing a lap of honour. There were Poole fans in the main stand and you couldn’t miss them with their flags. They’ve travelled a long way to see you secure an important win; acknowledge them. I’m not even a Poole fan and I thought that was poor. Anders Rowe passed Howarth in heat 4 then smoked Harris in his next one; straight back to the pits. Where’s the passion? It’s painful to see. Tai Woffinden was spot on; riders need to interact with fans, whether it’s on the track or after meetings.

Last one: the person controlling the music at Ashfield needs replaced. I refuse to call him or her a DJ. A clash of the titans fixture in the Championship, first versus second, the 2023 champions against the 2024 champions and Rick Astley is playing over the tannoy. I felt like I was at 18th birthday party in 1985.

Riders who win races and just go back to the pits really annoys me too, It is this aloofness towards fans that pay their wages that gets my gander up . Like you say where is the passion and appreciation of the fanbase. A lot have multiple clubs and are just interested in making as much money as they can while they can, least that's how it comes across. Not many give much back, wish they were all like Bomber .

[Joseq7]

15 minutes ago, SteelShoe said:

Riders who win races and just go back to the pits really annoys me too, It is this aloofness towards fans that pay their wages that gets my gander up . Like you say where is the passion and appreciation of the fanbase. A lot have multiple clubs and are just interested in making as much money as they can while they can, least that's how it comes across. Not many give much back, wish they were all like Bomber .

I only started following speedway in the mid 90s.

My first meetings were at Armadale and for a couple of years, once I was hooked, I would go to Edinburgh, Berwick and Glasgow, over a weekend. 

Peter Carr was probably the first rider who I thought was in a different class, which I later found out was literally true but IIRC he hardly ever came round to take the applause. 

Not never, but IIRC not regularly. 

I was never sure why, was he just being super professional and wanting the bike back with the mechanics asap......?

[foreverblue]

15 minutes ago, SteelShoe said:

Riders who win races and just go back to the pits really annoys me too, It is this aloofness towards fans that pay their wages that gets my gander up . Like you say where is the passion and appreciation of the fanbase. A lot have multiple clubs and are just interested in making as much money as they can while they can, least that's how it comes across. Not many give much back, wish they were all like Bomber .

As far as Poole riders are concerned they are always keen to come round at home so fans can celebrate with them, not so much away from home but they do sometimes probably depends on the importance of the meeting and the amount of fans at the meeting, they usually do at more local places like Oxford as there are plenty of us there.

[LisaColette]

44 minutes ago, foreverblue said:

As far as Poole riders are concerned they are always keen to come round at home so fans can celebrate with them, not so much away from home but they do sometimes probably depends on the importance of the meeting and the amount of fans at the meeting, they usually do at more local places like Oxford as there are plenty of us there.

Thomsen and Vinnie did a lot of it at Oxford last year, just to wind them up I think! 

 

[TracksideView]

3 hours ago, TheWellBehavedWorrall said:

Several valid, constructive points made and this is the response, I assume from a grown adult.

The definition of a low IQ response.

Low IQ response for low IQ "valid and constructive points".