What about Northampton?

[Aries]

https://find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk/company/16629633
 

Northamptonshire 🤔 Could Mayfield also be behind getting Northampton up and running as well as Ipswich? 

[Phannan]

5 hours ago, Littleze said:

I am unsure why anybody would be optimistic about this project, where does a crowd come from to support it?

Any new people to the sport will surely become disinterested once all the normal nonsense kicks in, guests, late rains off & all the other stuff that has been mentioned to death.

Until a complete overhaul is looked at, I fail to see how the Sport is turned around. 

 

They’re just kicking the can down the road. Same old same old. It can’t go on . 

[Neila]

1 hour ago, Aries said:

https://find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk/company/16629633
 

Northamptonshire 🤔 Could Mayfield also be behind getting Northampton up and running as well as Ipswich? 

This company was formed in August, more than likely the operating company for the GPs

[YeOldPitGate]

4 hours ago, Aries said:

https://find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk/company/16629633
 

Northamptonshire 🤔 Could Mayfield also be behind getting Northampton up and running as well as Ipswich? 

Possible but I would have thought they will have their hands full with making sure Ipswich keeps washing its face, two huge crowd pleasers have left and its not clear at the moment if even one rider of similar standing is coming in let alone two. So it would take a brave team to also take on Northampton at the same time with all the issues 99% of us on here see with making that track sustainable long term.

[Biffa]

6 hours ago, Hawk127 said:

Out of interest, has anyone any knowledge of any work being carried out at the venue?
Just a thought but what if it is not Northampton but another former venue where the powers that be have come up with cast iron guarantees over rent etc and then the initial investment for the prospective promoter could be a lot less of an outlay.

The offer of guaranteed income is a reasonable business proposition to consider  and if the owners of a former venue were given strong assurances why not think about it.
The other option for these owners is for the track to remain unused and no potential revenue from a balance sheet asset.
Leaving aside the history and attempts to reintroduce the sport to various venues which have been turned down, how many former tracks could you put an offer to?

Maybe Mr Godfrey will offer a cheap rent & lease to use Scunthorpe if Northampton can’t run 🤷‍♂️. 7 day access etc I do believe. Funnier things have happened 🤔

[arnieg]

4 hours ago, Neila said:

IF Northampton is the magic 6th team, can anyone say if a different planning application by the council is needed ? Or will the stock car planning permission cover all Motorsports ? Does the stadium have unlimited evening consent? IF no to this could be a no go as council planning decisions take ages.

Seems unlikely to be an issue. The stadium has been there for 60+ years. I can't see speedway needing separate permission. Conditions restricting use tend to be a feature of more modern stadiums.

[RoundTheBoards]

4 hours ago, Aries said:

https://find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk/company/16629633
 

Northamptonshire 🤔 Could Mayfield also be behind getting Northampton up and running as well as Ipswich? 

Mayfield Sports is based at Silverstone in Northants, and has been since 2014.

There's no connection between Mayfield's operations at Silverstone, and Northampton raceway at Brafield, except them being in the same county.

Mayfield Sports Management changed their company name to Junefield Associates last May, and then set up a new company, Mayfield Sports Events, in August, which is presumably something to do with their acquisition of the Tech3 MotoGP team last year, and/or their acquisition of the SGP.

[naffer]

I think you will find that  team 6 is Northampton and that the  other teams in the prem are contributing to help it happen.

Could be  California dreaming 

but a son needs to bein the uk to progress their career.

 

 

 

 

[IainB]

8 minutes ago, naffer said:

I think you will find that  team 6 is Northampton and that the  other teams in the prem are contributing to help it happen.

Could be  California dreaming 

but a son needs to bein the uk to progress their career.

 

 

 

 

So, Leicester who have openly admitted to (heavy?) losses over the last couple of years, have binned off their draw card and are in for another season with a (heavy?) loss... yet are still propping up a new team, that is bound to make, erm a heavy loss!

You just couldn't make this stuff up! What on earth are those trying to make this happen thinking of? 🤷‍♂️

And that's just a Leicester perspective, Sheffield seem to be in a similar boat though they've kept their big hitters. Can't think that it would be any different for the Aces and Stars. 

[TB1]

4 minutes ago, IainB said:

So, Leicester who have openly admitted to (heavy?) losses over the last couple of years, have binned off their draw card and are in for another season with a (heavy?) loss... yet are still propping up a new team, that is bound to make, erm a heavy loss!

You just couldn't make this stuff up! What on earth are those trying to make this happen thinking of? 🤷‍♂️

And that's just a Leicester perspective, Sheffield seem to be in a similar boat though they've kept their big hitters. Can't think that it would be any different for the Aces and Stars. 

Surely Iain any right minded business looking to back and sponsor speedway must be off their rocker? 

[IainB]

10 minutes ago, TB1 said:

Surely Iain any right minded business looking to back and sponsor speedway must be off their rocker? 

It's difficult to know what you get for your money other than exposure to around 5 or 6,000 people every week for around 6 months through the summer. It's more of a charity donation really. 

[M.D]

1 minute ago, IainB said:

It's difficult to know what you get for your money other than exposure to around 5 or 6,000 people every week for around 6 months through the summer. It's more of a charity donation really. 

It's a rich mans play thing, not a business.

[IainB]

12 minutes ago, M.D said:

It's a rich mans play thing, not a business.

The trouble is they're rich enough to buy and run a club but not rich enough to really do anything meaningful to improve things.

I was listening to the guy from Mildenhall on the 360 podcast this week and he deserves all the credit for doing what he's done there and the same goes for the guy at Worky but when you listen to them speak it's painfully obvious that they have no real ideas on what to do to improve the sport, especially at a national level. 

Listening to Rob Godfrey also the other week and he said they've got David Howe's daughter helping them out with the socials. Now I know nothing about David Howe's daughter maybe she runs a successful creative agency, brilliant if she does and good luck to her, but if she doesn't then is that really going to achieve the results that the sport desperately needs?

[RoundTheBoards]

1 hour ago, M.D said:

It's a rich mans play thing, not a business.

But it isn't.  It's a moderately well-off man's plaything.  If a Speedway team loses £100k in a season, that's chickenfeed to a "rich man"

Look at football.  Look how much, on average, a Premiership football team loses.  Look at Championship football, look at League 1, Look at League 2.   

League 2 is most economical, but even there, each club will lose, on average, around £3 million a year.   A £100k loss on a Speedway club is a bargain.

[old bob at herne bay]

All this alleged money being “lost” every year ! Yer still they come back every season for another loss ……are they really making a loss ??? 

[old bob at herne bay]

All this alleged money being “lost” every year ! Yer still they come back every season for another loss ……are they really making a loss ??? 

[FishersGate]

10 hours ago, IainB said:

So, Leicester who have openly admitted to (heavy?) losses over the last couple of years, have binned off their draw card and are in for another season with a (heavy?) loss... yet are still propping up a new team, that is bound to make, erm a heavy loss!

You just couldn't make this stuff up! What on earth are those trying to make this happen thinking of? 🤷‍♂️

And that's just a Leicester perspective, Sheffield seem to be in a similar boat though they've kept their big hitters. Can't think that it would be any different for the Aces and Stars. 

The scary thing is I stood with Dave Hemsley a couple of seasons ago watching the lions and he told me the rent for Cairns and it's cheaper than I thought it would be. Plus Cairns have paid 3 years worth of rent straight away. So you would have thought Leicester have a great opportunity to actually make some money, considering the track is also available 7 days a week and we get decent crowds. It's crazy how expensive running a team in the  premiership is. If Leicester can't even break even, who is actually turning a profit? Nobody Im guessing. 

[Steve Irving]

29 minutes ago, FishersGate said:

The scary thing is I stood with Dave Hemsley a couple of seasons ago watching the lions and he told me the rent for Cairns and it's cheaper than I thought it would be. Plus Cairns have paid 3 years worth of rent straight away. So you would have thought Leicester have a great opportunity to actually make some money, considering the track is also available 7 days a week and we get decent crowds. It's crazy how expensive running a team in the  premiership is. If Leicester can't even break even, who is actually turning a profit? Nobody Im guessing. 

And you know that how? Because Dickson said so in the Star? Funny how you and Iain are more than happy to Believe every word your Team manager says, but when riders openly state they can’t afford to ride in one league and would retire if one league came to pass, you’re all quick to disbelieve them and rip the pi$$ out of them!

[Steve Irving]

7 hours ago, old bob at herne bay said:

All this alleged money being “lost” every year ! Yer still they come back every season for another loss ……are they really making a loss ??? 

Of course they all are. They LOVE losing money every year. I’ve heard they all take bets with each other at the AGM, to see who can lose the most money this year, and who can break their previous money losing record. They’re all in hysterics apparently it’s great fun. 
 

They can’t wait to lose even more of their money this year, but it’s ok though, their love of the sport means they’re not bothered in the slightest at losing shed loads of their wealth bless them. 
 

It’s all definitely true!

Edited 3 hours ago by Steve Irving

[Racin Jason 72]

2 hours ago, FishersGate said:

The scary thing is I stood with Dave Hemsley a couple of seasons ago watching the lions and he told me the rent for Cairns and it's cheaper than I thought it would be. Plus Cairns have paid 3 years worth of rent straight away. So you would have thought Leicester have a great opportunity to actually make some money, considering the track is also available 7 days a week and we get decent crowds. It's crazy how expensive running a team in the  premiership is. If Leicester can't even break even, who is actually turning a profit? Nobody Im guessing. 

Only two teams made a profit last year. One in the premiership and one in the championship.