1 valve Posted 5 hours ago Report Share Posted 5 hours ago 4 hours ago, Heathcote said: I say again 97 different riders rode in the UK last year And if there were to be one big league next year, the best we could hope for would be around 70 available riders (at best) r along with a wide spread of ability and competitiveness from good to absolute no chancers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1 valve Posted 5 hours ago Report Share Posted 5 hours ago 17 hours ago, TTT said: I agree. Just thought I'd raise the point though considering TNT will have to add some content in order to get people to sign up. BT 50% owner of TNT looking for a buyer of their half of the business and believe it or not Warner Bros. Discovery are in advanced talks to acquire 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted 4 hours ago Report Share Posted 4 hours ago 2 hours ago, Ben91 said: They already binned off British Speedway once Twice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
therefused Posted 4 hours ago Report Share Posted 4 hours ago not sure whats happened to the ipswich fans, finally won a trophy after years of trying and now theyre all on there 'premiership' high horse. you were also rans in the second division for absolute years, maybe you will be again soon... 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phannan Posted 4 hours ago Report Share Posted 4 hours ago 2 hours ago, mikebv said: Another excellent Speedway Star this week... Covering the current malaise in detail with a thought provoking piece by Paul Burbridge, and also Peter Oakes making a suggestion for two leagues of seven, but of the same level, and with promotion and relegation involved.. Reading both pieces it looks like they must "lurk" on here... Which does give hope that at least some insiders within the "Speedway Bubble Echo Chamber" do see opportunities that are not same old/same old, rinse and repeat ad infinitum... For anyone wanting details, it costs £3.60, and is available on subscription for less, and digital for less... And is a cracking publication considering it covers such a poorly led sport... NB. There is also an interview with Richard Coleman of Mayfield Sports re possible GP expansion outside Europe... I am amazed he found the time to do it!!!! Promotion and relegation? Please make it happen. There’s plenty on here who say it wouldn’t work. If Peter Oakes suggests it then that’s good enough for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerIain Posted 4 hours ago Report Share Posted 4 hours ago 5 minutes ago, Phannan said: Promotion and relegation? Please make it happen. There’s plenty on here who say it wouldn’t work. If Peter Oakes suggests it then that’s good enough for me. Speedway had that before (1991-1994) and in those 4 seasons, 3 of the league winners refused promotion. It went to 1 big league in 1995 but the 94 winners had refused promotion in 93 and also would have refused in 94 for the same reasons. Those same reasons still exist in 2025 so I can't see it working 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SJA Posted 3 hours ago Report Share Posted 3 hours ago 4 hours ago, mikebv said: To be fair, it was ever thus... Self-employed workers being "assets" springs to mind as one of the biggest challenges that could have been made down the years .. With these self employed people getting banned for withholding their services when not being paid, being particularly something that would get slaughtered... No asset system anymore obviously... The contact is less self employed "provision of a service" and more a fixed term contact that terminates at 23:59 on 31st October. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPEEDY69 Posted 3 hours ago Report Share Posted 3 hours ago 3 hours ago, mikebv said: Another excellent Speedway Star this week... Covering the current malaise in detail with a thought provoking piece by Paul Burbridge, and also Peter Oakes making a suggestion for two leagues of seven, but of the same level, and with promotion and relegation involved.. Reading both pieces it looks like they must "lurk" on here... Which does give hope that at least some insiders within the "Speedway Bubble Echo Chamber" do see opportunities that are not same old/same old, rinse and repeat ad infinitum... For anyone wanting details, it costs £3.60, and is available on subscription for less, and digital for less... And is a cracking publication considering it covers such a poorly led sport... NB. There is also an interview with Richard Coleman of Mayfield Sports re possible GP expansion outside Europe... I am amazed he found the time to do it!!!! So more of a sideways move than promotion/relegation 🤣 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arnieg Posted 3 hours ago Report Share Posted 3 hours ago 1 hour ago, TigerIain said: Speedway had that before (1991-1994) and in those 4 seasons, 3 of the league winners refused promotion. It went to 1 big league in 1995 but the 94 winners had refused promotion in 93 and also would have refused in 94 for the same reasons. Those same reasons still exist in 2025 so I can't see it working When we are desperately casting around for more teams in the top tier, introducing a provision that forcibly removes removes one, seems, somewhat reckless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Smith Posted 3 hours ago Report Share Posted 3 hours ago (edited) How about this for an "Outside The Box" idea. Premiership continues with 5 teams, home & away twice. 2 Championship clubs have a 2nd team on a Monday or Thursday were they just have 1 round of fixtures except against each other, allowing them to put their feelers out with their supporters as to whether they go Premiership in 2027 or 2028. Could Championship clubs like Glasgow & Poole finance just 10 extra fixtures?? Edited 3 hours ago by Daniel Smith 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawk127 Posted 2 hours ago Report Share Posted 2 hours ago 2 hours ago, dontforgetthefueltapsbruv said: You may as well add Lord Lucan to your list and make it 152 - he would be as useful as half the names on there towards making a viable league For the vulnerable on here is he still riding? I’m sure I heard he was now plying his trade Bahia Blanca. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phannan Posted 2 hours ago Report Share Posted 2 hours ago 1 hour ago, TigerIain said: Speedway had that before (1991-1994) and in those 4 seasons, 3 of the league winners refused promotion. It went to 1 big league in 1995 but the 94 winners had refused promotion in 93 and also would have refused in 94 for the same reasons. Those same reasons still exist in 2025 so I can't see it working Like Ive said before. The clubs dictating the rules to the governing body. It’s laughable for a professional sport to allow that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
89buttons Posted 2 hours ago Report Share Posted 2 hours ago 5 hours ago, TTT said: You're missing the point. TNT even if they don't rate a particular Sport, Will have no choice but to take on more content if they want to stay afloat. Lack of Content = Lack of Subscribers. Lack of Subscribers = End Game! Only real selling point from 2027 onwards is a Lunchtime PL Kick-Off and barely anyone is taking out a Subscription for that. Over the last few months TNT have lost Basketball and Boxing too so it's not just UEFA Club Competitions. TNT are just as desperate for content as British Speedway is for a TV deal.....It's a match made in heaven at this point. Watched some pretty entertaining content from 0230 this morning courtesy of TnT 🏏 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted 2 hours ago Report Share Posted 2 hours ago 17 minutes ago, Phannan said: Like Ive said before. The clubs dictating the rules to the governing body. It’s laughable for a professional sport to allow that. And that is one of its major flaws... It isn't really a "professional sport" at all is it? It is in reality a bit of a contrived "sports entertainment" that "makes do and mends" continually to hopefully reach the finishing line each season with all competitors still in tact, and also, hopefully, able to go again the following season... And the "governing body" is "themselves" with each of them wanting different things from running a Speedway Team... Some pay their mortgages and live their lives from what they generate, whilst some are quite happy to have an expensive hobby and, as long as losses are within their expectations and affordability, are quite happy to carry on throwing their own, and compliant sponsors', money at it.. With all quite happy to put "any Speedway" out, regardless of whether it is a credible offering or not, or even if the fans actually want you to race on some of the chosen nights...... It has very much become something set up for the riders to remain "professional" rather than something that, in the wider world of sports, can be taken too seriously... With no one really "in charge", for the last "forever" we ultimately arrived where we are today.. As was always going to happen... 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted 2 hours ago Report Share Posted 2 hours ago 17 minutes ago, 89buttons said: Watched some pretty entertaining content from 0230 this morning courtesy of TnT 🏏 Me too... Glad I didn't go to bed around 530am though... Like I almost did!!!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TTT Posted 2 hours ago Report Share Posted 2 hours ago (edited) 31 minutes ago, 89buttons said: Watched some pretty entertaining content from 0230 this morning courtesy of TnT 🏏 So did I. Ashes isn't a long term selling point though as it's only held every 2 Years. Edited 2 hours ago by TTT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Littleze Posted 2 hours ago Report Share Posted 2 hours ago 1 hour ago, Daniel Smith said: How about this for an "Outside The Box" idea. Premiership continues with 5 teams, home & away twice. 2 Championship clubs have a 2nd team on a Monday or Thursday were they just have 1 round of fixtures except against each other, allowing them to put their feelers out with their supporters as to whether they go Premiership in 2027 or 2028. Could Championship clubs like Glasgow & Poole finance just 10 extra fixtures?? It’s all desperate measures to see if something sticks.. that’s not a plan.. make a long term sustainable plan and see it through. If it works, great.. if it doesn’t, start again or close the doors for good. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Littleze Posted 1 hour ago Report Share Posted 1 hour ago 6 minutes ago, TTT said: So did I. Ashes isn't a long term selling point though as it's only played once in every 2 Years. That is the selling point. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Jacobs Posted 1 hour ago Report Share Posted 1 hour ago 3 hours ago, therefused said: not sure whats happened to the ipswich fans, finally won a trophy after years of trying and now theyre all on there 'premiership' high horse. you were also rans in the second division for absolute years, maybe you will be again soon... Says a fan of the perennial Wooden Spooners ... 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TTT Posted 1 hour ago Report Share Posted 1 hour ago 29 minutes ago, Littleze said: That is the selling point. Just look at the vast majority of posts on X in regards to TNT losing UEFA Club Competition rights. Every knows TNT is finished. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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