ShanoXtra Posted yesterday at 09:26 PM Report Share Posted yesterday at 09:26 PM 1 hour ago, mikebv said: From Edinburgh/Glasgow, down to Poole/Plymouth, the league would cover a fair few conurbations, with several million people living in them, and look like it fully covered the country, pretty much from top to bottom.. "Northern Tours" for all last seasons Premiership teams' fans on Friday and Saturday may even get coaches and hotels booked and "supporter's clubs" could maybe rear their head again... Sheffield on a Thursday, the NSS on a Friday and "further up north" on Saturday would give the more southern based clubs' fans, even more of a "Northern Tour".. With the clubs in the further north all riding Friday and Saturday it would be perfect in getting a fair few away fans there from teams who haven't even been there in some cases, and not been there for a good while in others... Who knows, maybe clubs could package special offer reduced price deals to the away fans to encourage their attendance..? Ipswich on a Thursday and maybe KIngs Lynn on a Friday could also deliver some "East Anglian Tours"... Sheffield/Scunthorpe on Thursday and Friday could also get some away fan traction... And there will be many other "mixing" which could take place to "get an away crowd" there... There would be a big novelty factor which should be rode to the max, until it came to its inevitable end.. By which time, you would hope that the sport was on a clear upturn and big momentum was in place to keep it growing... And you still wouldn’t turn out for the “qualifiers” 😂 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted yesterday at 09:41 PM Report Share Posted yesterday at 09:41 PM (edited) 4 hours ago, ShanoXtra said: And you still wouldn’t turn out for the “qualifiers” 😂 I would if the play off four weren't set in stone by the end of March...... Your promoter has thrown his toys right out of the pram by the looks of things.. I had huge respect for him but he has shown he is as inward looking as the rest of them, when I had high hopes for him to lead the sport... Cometh the hour. Cometh the man... He, seemingly, has "ran off".... Which. Is a huge shame for the sport, given that Chris was genuinely one of the few who could see the potential of it, if it could be dragged, kicking and screaming, into the 21st Century... A sad loss... Edited 21 hours ago by mikebv 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShanoXtra Posted yesterday at 09:49 PM Report Share Posted yesterday at 09:49 PM (edited) 7 minutes ago, mikebv said: I would if the play off finalists weren't set in stone by the end of March...... Your promoter has thrown his toys right out of the pram... I had huge respect for him but he has shown he is as anept as the rest of them, when I had high hopes for him to lead the sport... Cometh the hour. Cometh the man... His has ran off... Belle Vue, Leicester and Kings Lynn fans will of course be mad. Chris has single handedly stopped the Prem from running next year clearly and you three teams will have no option but to drop down or sell 🤦🏼 , I don’t expect any good words from anyone apart from Ipswich fans! Edited yesterday at 09:49 PM by ShanoXtra . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted yesterday at 09:55 PM Report Share Posted yesterday at 09:55 PM 4 minutes ago, ShanoXtra said: Belle Vue, Leicester and Kings Lynn fans will of course be mad. Chris has single handedly stopped the Prem from running next year clearly and you three teams will have no option but to drop down or sell 🤦🏼 , I don’t expect any good words from anyone apart from Ipswich fans! What Chris has single handedly done at the moment is seemingly closed his own club down, with no "assurance" that they'll be running next season. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post mikebv Posted yesterday at 09:57 PM Popular Post Report Share Posted yesterday at 09:57 PM 2 minutes ago, ShanoXtra said: Belle Vue, Leicester and Kings Lynn fans will of course be mad. Chris has single handedly stopped the Prem from running next year clearly and you three teams will have no option but to drop down or sell 🤦🏼 , I don’t expect any good words from anyone apart from Ipswich fans! I, personally, cannot wait for one league... Loads of new tracks to visit, several weekends away... My concern is we end up with two leagues of Mickey Mouse, contrived, same old/same old, bollox.. Like we have had for 20 Years and more... What an opportunity for the sport to reset itself, relaunch itself, and make a UK Speedway Brand... 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ouch Posted 14 hours ago Report Share Posted 14 hours ago 11 hours ago, mikebv said: I would if the play off four weren't set in stone by the end of March...... Your promoter has thrown his toys right out of the pram by the looks of things.. I had huge respect for him but he has shown he is as inward looking as the rest of them, when I had high hopes for him to lead the sport... Cometh the hour. Cometh the man... He, seemingly, has "ran off".... Which. Is a huge shame for the sport, given that Chris was genuinely one of the few who could see the potential of it, if it could be dragged, kicking and screaming, into the 21st Century... A sad loss... Four ex promoters, all fighting back the tears whilst describing their own tales of woe regarding the loss of their teams. Developers, said the first. I couldn’t make it pay said the second, I really tried. My landlord kicked us out, said the third, they didn’t want us, it was so sad. They look to the fourth as they all hold hands united in sadness and ask, what about you? He replies, sobbing, I didn’t get my own way this time. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norbold Posted 14 hours ago Report Share Posted 14 hours ago There is a lot of talk about teams like Belle Vue and Ipswich (if they run) having to "drop down" next season, but, of course, if the Premier League as it currently exists is no longer, the new single league will, de facto, be the top league, so, actually, it is a matter of the other teams moving up! It's just that the standard won't be so good. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ouch Posted 14 hours ago Report Share Posted 14 hours ago As we have a chance for a major reset in UK speedway, I’d like to ask any mechanical boffins how easy is it to make the kit massively cheaper? You can’t just change regs overnight in a big way as that sees riders with expensive & unusable out of date parts but can costs be driven down with minor tweaks as time goes on? A speedway bike will always be a speedway bike but it would be nice to have a cheaper alternative to the highly tuned rocket ships currently blighting the domestic scene. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teromaafan Posted 13 hours ago Report Share Posted 13 hours ago 12 minutes ago, ouch said: As we have a chance for a major reset in UK speedway, I’d like to ask any mechanical boffins how easy is it to make the kit massively cheaper? You can’t just change regs overnight in a big way as that sees riders with expensive & unusable out of date parts but can costs be driven down with minor tweaks as time goes on? A speedway bike will always be a speedway bike but it would be nice to have a cheaper alternative to the highly tuned rocket ships currently blighting the domestic scene. There is a cheaper alternative……..it’s called cycle speedway😀 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1 valve Posted 12 hours ago Report Share Posted 12 hours ago 20 hours ago, THE DEAN MACHINE said: Reading that piece in the star reads like we going to decimate the championship to run our flawed system in the premier, think the championship teams should have a meeting, ditch the bspl, form their own governing body and start a new sport under the Nora banner Two leagues made up of riders available following the demise of the Premier League and loss of the very best riders seems the most sensible, especially since only one of the leagues will need to support full time riders. Don't forget, this situation has been brought about because the majority of the BSPL promoters of whom the majority are Championship club owners didnt want the existing league set-up to continue (exit Mr. Louis) Also, given the BSPL/ACU/FIM structure, such a move will not be acceptable to a good number of those remaining riders given that Nora meetings would be the only ones they could ride in anywhere in the world speedway/long track nor grass-track including GP2/world under 21 and other junior championship. All those folk who wanted one league may not be getting their wish, but they are getting the best solution to providing speedway with the less number of riders available - We should always be careful on what we wish for! 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben91 Posted 11 hours ago Report Share Posted 11 hours ago 9 minutes ago, 1 valve said: Don't forget, this situation has been brought about because the majority of the BSPL promoters of whom the majority are Championship club owners didnt want the existing league set-up to continue (exit Mr. Louis) It’s been brought about by decades of self-interest and mismanagement across the board. The top league wasn’t sustainable, it was a money pit and that has been evident for longer than the last month or so. It’s not a knee jerk implosion. Let’s not kid ourselves that it is. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjcone44 Posted 11 hours ago Report Share Posted 11 hours ago 27 minutes ago, 1 valve said: All those folk who wanted one league may not be getting their wish, but they are getting the best solution to providing speedway with the less number of riders available we would rather have a premiership with all the top riders, i am going to ask father Christmas if he can sort it. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted 10 hours ago Report Share Posted 10 hours ago 14 hours ago, mikebv said: I, personally, cannot wait for one league... Loads of new tracks to visit, several weekends away... My concern is we end up with two leagues of Mickey Mouse, contrived, same old/same old, bollox.. Like we have had for 20 Years and more... What an opportunity for the sport to reset itself, relaunch itself, and make a UK Speedway Brand... Re-brand it as the 'British Super League' for national media attention and 'Bob's your Uncle', job's a good'un !! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted 10 hours ago Report Share Posted 10 hours ago 26 minutes ago, gjcone44 said: we would rather have a premiership with all the top riders, i am going to ask father Christmas if he can sort it. Dont waste your time mate.... The last time I went to see him I asked for a real 12ft Dragon, one that flew as high as the clouds, and could breatlhe fire... He told me that there were certain things that even Father Christmas couldn't promise to deliver so, just in case he couldn't get me a real, flying, fire breathing Dragon, he asked me what my second wish was... So I asked him if he could make UK Speedway affordable, popular, exciting, ran with integrity and credibility and relevant as a sport in the 21st Century... He pondered this for a while, looked away, and thought intensely for a few moments, then looked me straight in the eye and said... "What colour would you like that Dragon lad?"... 1 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phannan Posted 10 hours ago Report Share Posted 10 hours ago One league it is then. Let’s just hope that meets Glasgow’s and Poole’s requirements. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted 8 hours ago Report Share Posted 8 hours ago 5 hours ago, norbold said: There is a lot of talk about teams like Belle Vue and Ipswich (if they run) having to "drop down" next season, but, of course, if the Premier League as it currently exists is no longer, the new single league will, de facto, be the top league, so, actually, it is a matter of the other teams moving up! It's just that the standard won't be so good. The standard will not be and upwards move for the Championship either One big league will be a significant down shift Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TB1 Posted 8 hours ago Report Share Posted 8 hours ago 11 minutes ago, dontforgetthefueltapsbruv said: The standard will not be and upwards move for the Championship either One big league will be a significant down shift I'd much rather have that than no Foxhall to go to on a Thursday night thanks! 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cowboy cookie returns? Posted 8 hours ago Report Share Posted 8 hours ago 7 minutes ago, TB1 said: I'd much rather have that than no Foxhall to go to on a Thursday night thanks! The issue is a real drop in standard but not being able to drop admission costs to match. coupled with less sponsorship money coming in & the likelihood that gates would drop. That lower standard turns what was a decent business model at Ipswich in speedway terms to one that loses money. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TB1 Posted 6 hours ago Report Share Posted 6 hours ago 1 hour ago, cowboy cookie returns? said: The issue is a real drop in standard but not being able to drop admission costs to match. coupled with less sponsorship money coming in & the likelihood that gates would drop. That lower standard turns what was a decent business model at Ipswich in speedway terms to one that loses money. I do accept that may be a big issue and I don't know the answer. Any suggestions from anyone better qualified than me? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamish McRaker Posted 6 hours ago Report Share Posted 6 hours ago 3 hours ago, SteveLyric2 said: Re-brand it as the 'British Super League' for national media attention and 'Bob's your Uncle', job's a good'un !! Would need liberal use of words like "exciting" and for Harry Redknapp to give it his seal of approval! Maybe a few of the 14 existing clubs will prefer to run in a league at NDL+ level, either in addition to being in the "British Super League" or in some cases instead of? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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