mikebv Posted 15 hours ago Report Share Posted 15 hours ago 8 minutes ago, IainB said: Captain Zach Cook? McDiarmid didnt even make press and practice for Oxford! It is quite obvious, by their actions, that Promoters themselves don't take it all too seriously, so fans also need to not bother about how the sport is ran... Just go along, and, hopefully, enjoy the racing... Admittedly, this approach doesn't facilitate any long term growth in a team sport, as an emotional attachment to your team is key for success in a team sport, however, it should see the sport getting through to its centenary at least in 2028, and maybe even a few years longer, as the 30 and 40 somethings, DU'ers, gradually retire and tracks run out of riders of a "decent level" to continue... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevePark Posted 13 hours ago Report Share Posted 13 hours ago 1 hour ago, mikebv said: It is quite obvious, by their actions, that Promoters themselves don't take it all too seriously, so fans also need to not bother about how the sport is ran... Just go along, and, hopefully, enjoy the racing... Admittedly, this approach doesn't facilitate any long term growth in a team sport, as an emotional attachment to your team is key for success in a team sport, however, it should see the sport getting through to its centenary at least in 2028, and maybe even a few years longer, as the 30 and 40 somethings, DU'ers, gradually retire and tracks run out of riders of a "decent level" to continue... IF the promoters aren't taking the sport seriously, then why should the fans bother turning up at all ?? Teams signing riders who they know will miss meetings sums the sport up. It's basically Mickey Mouse. No wonder the TV companies have washed their hands of it. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Preston Comet Posted 13 hours ago Report Share Posted 13 hours ago Just now, StevePark said: IF the promoters aren't taking the sport seriously, then why should the fans bother turning up at all ?? Teams signing riders who they know will miss meetings sums the sport up. It's basically Mickey Mouse. No wonder the TV companies have washed their hands of it. What are the options tho? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted 12 hours ago Report Share Posted 12 hours ago 1 hour ago, Preston Comet said: What are the options tho? Way too late to sort these problems out.Warning signs have been about for years.Beyond repair IMO 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted 11 hours ago Report Share Posted 11 hours ago 2 hours ago, Preston Comet said: What are the options tho? You commit to every single fixture or you're not allowed to sign. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted 10 hours ago Report Share Posted 10 hours ago 2 hours ago, StevePark said: IF the promoters aren't taking the sport seriously, then why should the fans bother turning up at all ?? Teams signing riders who they know will miss meetings sums the sport up. It's basically Mickey Mouse. No wonder the TV companies have washed their hands of it. It's been that way for far too long a time now to ever change... Ironically, some say "guesting" is a necessary evil... It isn't... It's now become a fundamental part of the operating model, hence meetings get planned in, well in advance, knowing riders will be missing... Considering it is such a "dangerous sport" the amount of injuries are actually very low... Isn't it amazing that the same injured rider can ride in Poland but, at the same time, not the UK?... Simply that is because the UK are happy to "put out any Speedway" regardless of credibility, and will borrow a replacement... To be taken seriously, a team sport needs integrity and credibility, but this costs money.... And when there is such a lack of prestige, and financial reward in winning UK Speedway Leagues (iroincally again, all down to their very own operating model), I can understand why "making it up as they go along" is the plan they follow.. Especially for those who run their team as a hobby... Those fans "who wear the club shop" still collude with those in charge, that what they are watching is relevant, and bona fide.. The rest, (the majority of fans), take it for what it is, however, those fans will be ones that "can take it or leave it"... Which isn't a great outlook, if you want your team sport to be successful... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevePark Posted 10 hours ago Report Share Posted 10 hours ago 7 minutes ago, mikebv said: It's been that way for far too long a time now to ever change... Ironically, some say "guesting" is a necessary evil... It isn't... It's now become a fundamental part of the operating model, hence meetings get planned in, well in advance, knowing riders will be missing... Considering it is such a "dangerous sport" the amount of injuries are actually very low... Isn't it amazing that the same injured rider can ride in Poland but, at the same time, not the UK?... Simply that is because the UK are happy to "put out any Speedway" regardless of credibility, and will borrow a replacement... To be taken seriously, a team sport needs integrity and credibility, but this costs money.... And when there is such a lack of prestige, and financial reward in winning UK Speedway Leagues (iroincally again, all down to their very own operating model), I can understand why "making it up as they go along" is the plan they follow.. Especially for those who run their team as a hobby... Those fans "who wear the club shop" still collude with those in charge, that what they are watching is relevant, and bona fide.. The rest, (the majority of fans), take it for what it is, however, those fans will be ones that "can take it or leave it"... Which isn't a great outlook, if you want your team sport to be successful... Spot on. "There's a shortage of riders" - why? - Because we have seven man teams - again, why? That's just one example of the promoters sticking their heads in the sand and pretending the sport (for God knows how long) is working perfectly OK. It's dying on it's posterior and has been for long enough now. What really annoys me is, when it dies, it'll be "the fans fault", because they stopped attending, rather than the promoters fault for not trying to do something about it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted 10 hours ago Report Share Posted 10 hours ago I am delighted Kyle Newman is back in the team even if only for a short while. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur54 Posted 9 hours ago Report Share Posted 9 hours ago 49 minutes ago, foreverblue said: I am delighted Kyle Newman is back in the team even if only for a short while. Matt did say in an interview, it's up to Kyle, if he's going well, they would re look at it 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaColette Posted 9 hours ago Report Share Posted 9 hours ago (edited) 2 hours ago, Bagpuss said: You commit to every single fixture or you're not allowed to sign. Never going to work. @Fromafaris right, been going on too long to stop it now. Also if anyone was in Zach's place, no way would you choose Championship over Poland. Especially if you are trying to progress. Wasn't really expecting Zach to be able to do Saturday meetings this season. Edited 9 hours ago by LisaColette Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted 8 hours ago Report Share Posted 8 hours ago 43 minutes ago, LisaColette said: Never going to work. @Fromafaris right, been going on too long to stop it now. Also if anyone was in Zach's place, no way would you choose Championship over Poland. Especially if you are trying to progress. Wasn't really expecting Zach to be able to do Saturday meetings this season. Some people seem to forget that Zach Cook only signed for Pirates this season because of all the doubts over the Premiership places. So Poole were unexpectedly glad to have him back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dorsetpirate Posted 7 hours ago Report Share Posted 7 hours ago Just my personal opinion would rather have the same 7 riders there week in week out! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lewy Posted 7 hours ago Report Share Posted 7 hours ago 38 minutes ago, SteveLyric2 said: Some people seem to forget that Zach Cook only signed for Pirates this season because of all the doubts over the Premiership places. So Poole were unexpectedly glad to have him back. Poole only went for cook because anders Rowe couldn't agree a deal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted 7 hours ago Report Share Posted 7 hours ago (edited) 8 minutes ago, lewy said: Poole only went for cook because anders Rowe couldn't agree a deal Ah my stalker returns! If you mean that the club wouldn't agree to his demands (or his attitude)- then you are correct. Edited 7 hours ago by SteveLyric2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lewy Posted 7 hours ago Report Share Posted 7 hours ago 13 minutes ago, SteveLyric2 said: Ah my stalker returns! If you mean that the club wouldn't agree to his demands (or his attitude)- then you are correct. So you were wrong then clive 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted 7 hours ago Report Share Posted 7 hours ago 19 minutes ago, lewy said: Poole only went for cook because anders Rowe couldn't agree a deal That is a good thing though! Anders let us down when it mattered. Rather have Zach even if he misses the odd meeting. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neila Posted 7 hours ago Report Share Posted 7 hours ago Good to see cooper has kept the tassels 😀 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waspman Posted 6 hours ago Report Share Posted 6 hours ago I watched the bbc news for your area at tea time nice the pirates where on there weather for friday looks iffy as im coming from wales to see this meeting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daz9100 Posted 6 hours ago Report Share Posted 6 hours ago Weather should be fine, maybe a shower in the morning but looking dry for the evening. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waspman Posted 6 hours ago Report Share Posted 6 hours ago 33 minutes ago, daz9100 said: Weather should be fine, maybe a shower in the morning but looking dry for the evening. 👍 good Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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