mikebv Posted April 1 Report Share Posted April 1 2 hours ago, StevePark said: IF the promoters aren't taking the sport seriously, then why should the fans bother turning up at all ?? Teams signing riders who they know will miss meetings sums the sport up. It's basically Mickey Mouse. No wonder the TV companies have washed their hands of it. It's been that way for far too long a time now to ever change... Ironically, some say "guesting" is a necessary evil... It isn't... It's now become a fundamental part of the operating model, hence meetings get planned in, well in advance, knowing riders will be missing... Considering it is such a "dangerous sport" the amount of injuries are actually very low... Isn't it amazing that the same injured rider can ride in Poland but, at the same time, not the UK?... Simply that is because the UK are happy to "put out any Speedway" regardless of credibility, and will borrow a replacement... To be taken seriously, a team sport needs integrity and credibility, but this costs money.... And when there is such a lack of prestige, and financial reward in winning UK Speedway Leagues (iroincally again, all down to their very own operating model), I can understand why "making it up as they go along" is the plan they follow.. Especially for those who run their team as a hobby... Those fans "who wear the club shop" still collude with those in charge, that what they are watching is relevant, and bona fide.. The rest, (the majority of fans), take it for what it is, however, those fans will be ones that "can take it or leave it"... Which isn't a great outlook, if you want your team sport to be successful... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevePark Posted April 1 Report Share Posted April 1 7 minutes ago, mikebv said: It's been that way for far too long a time now to ever change... Ironically, some say "guesting" is a necessary evil... It isn't... It's now become a fundamental part of the operating model, hence meetings get planned in, well in advance, knowing riders will be missing... Considering it is such a "dangerous sport" the amount of injuries are actually very low... Isn't it amazing that the same injured rider can ride in Poland but, at the same time, not the UK?... Simply that is because the UK are happy to "put out any Speedway" regardless of credibility, and will borrow a replacement... To be taken seriously, a team sport needs integrity and credibility, but this costs money.... And when there is such a lack of prestige, and financial reward in winning UK Speedway Leagues (iroincally again, all down to their very own operating model), I can understand why "making it up as they go along" is the plan they follow.. Especially for those who run their team as a hobby... Those fans "who wear the club shop" still collude with those in charge, that what they are watching is relevant, and bona fide.. The rest, (the majority of fans), take it for what it is, however, those fans will be ones that "can take it or leave it"... Which isn't a great outlook, if you want your team sport to be successful... Spot on. "There's a shortage of riders" - why? - Because we have seven man teams - again, why? That's just one example of the promoters sticking their heads in the sand and pretending the sport (for God knows how long) is working perfectly OK. It's dying on it's posterior and has been for long enough now. What really annoys me is, when it dies, it'll be "the fans fault", because they stopped attending, rather than the promoters fault for not trying to do something about it. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted April 1 Report Share Posted April 1 I am delighted Kyle Newman is back in the team even if only for a short while. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur54 Posted April 1 Report Share Posted April 1 49 minutes ago, foreverblue said: I am delighted Kyle Newman is back in the team even if only for a short while. Matt did say in an interview, it's up to Kyle, if he's going well, they would re look at it 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaColette Posted April 1 Report Share Posted April 1 (edited) 2 hours ago, Bagpuss said: You commit to every single fixture or you're not allowed to sign. Never going to work. @Fromafaris right, been going on too long to stop it now. Also if anyone was in Zach's place, no way would you choose Championship over Poland. Especially if you are trying to progress. Wasn't really expecting Zach to be able to do Saturday meetings this season. Edited April 1 by LisaColette Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted April 1 Report Share Posted April 1 43 minutes ago, LisaColette said: Never going to work. @Fromafaris right, been going on too long to stop it now. Also if anyone was in Zach's place, no way would you choose Championship over Poland. Especially if you are trying to progress. Wasn't really expecting Zach to be able to do Saturday meetings this season. Some people seem to forget that Zach Cook only signed for Pirates this season because of all the doubts over the Premiership places. So Poole were unexpectedly glad to have him back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dorsetpirate Posted April 1 Report Share Posted April 1 Just my personal opinion would rather have the same 7 riders there week in week out! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lewy Posted April 1 Report Share Posted April 1 38 minutes ago, SteveLyric2 said: Some people seem to forget that Zach Cook only signed for Pirates this season because of all the doubts over the Premiership places. So Poole were unexpectedly glad to have him back. Poole only went for cook because anders Rowe couldn't agree a deal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted April 1 Report Share Posted April 1 (edited) 8 minutes ago, lewy said: Poole only went for cook because anders Rowe couldn't agree a deal Ah my stalker returns! If you mean that the club wouldn't agree to his demands (or his attitude)- then you are correct. Edited April 1 by SteveLyric2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lewy Posted April 1 Report Share Posted April 1 13 minutes ago, SteveLyric2 said: Ah my stalker returns! If you mean that the club wouldn't agree to his demands (or his attitude)- then you are correct. So you were wrong then clive 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted April 1 Report Share Posted April 1 19 minutes ago, lewy said: Poole only went for cook because anders Rowe couldn't agree a deal That is a good thing though! Anders let us down when it mattered. Rather have Zach even if he misses the odd meeting. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neila Posted April 1 Report Share Posted April 1 Good to see cooper has kept the tassels 😀 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waspman Posted April 1 Report Share Posted April 1 I watched the bbc news for your area at tea time nice the pirates where on there weather for friday looks iffy as im coming from wales to see this meeting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daz9100 Posted April 1 Report Share Posted April 1 Weather should be fine, maybe a shower in the morning but looking dry for the evening. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waspman Posted April 1 Report Share Posted April 1 33 minutes ago, daz9100 said: Weather should be fine, maybe a shower in the morning but looking dry for the evening. 👍 good Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WookieboyDon Posted April 2 Report Share Posted April 2 3 hours ago, Neila said: Good to see cooper has kept the tassels 😀 Was always going to. He has said that they are part of any contract that he has signed. KL will also see them this year, as will Leszno. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tocha Posted April 2 Report Share Posted April 2 On 3/31/2026 at 8:39 PM, mikebv said: The Poole promotion were quoted as saying, when they signed him, that they knew he would miss some meetings at weekends but would do their best to work around it to minimise it.. Given he already had a Polish contract, Poole are secondary in priority... The Aces ride Monday and Thursday so shouldn't clash... Poole didn't have to sign him, knowing he would 100% miss meetings... No one held a gun to their head.. On 3/31/2026 at 8:39 PM, mikebv said: The Poole promotion were quoted as saying, when they signed him, that they knew he would miss some meetings at weekends but would do their best to work around it to minimise it.. Given he already had a Polish contract, Poole are secondary in priority... The Aces ride Monday and Thursday so shouldn't clash... Poole didn't have to sign him, knowing he would 100% miss meetings... No one held a gun to their head.. Lodz are at Ostrow on August 13th, the same day as Belle Vue are due at Northampton, so I don't know what happens then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted April 2 Report Share Posted April 2 39 minutes ago, tocha said: Lodz are at Ostrow on August 13th, the same day as Belle Vue are due at Northampton, so I don't know what happens then. What "should" happen is that the UK has priority... However, as we know, Poland can be "very persuasive"...😳 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaColette Posted April 2 Report Share Posted April 2 5 minutes ago, mikebv said: What "should" happen is that the UK has priority... However, as we know, Poland can be "very persuasive"...😳 I thought the Prem didn't have priority anymore. There were a few Thursday fixture clashes last season and Phil Morris had to have talks with them to try and get them to change it. Or we do have priority and they ignore it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neila Posted April 2 Report Share Posted April 2 7 minutes ago, LisaColette said: I thought the Prem didn't have priority anymore. There were a few Thursday fixture clashes last season and Phil Morris had to have talks with them to try and get them to change it. Or we do have priority and they ignore it As with a lot of things money talks . Oh and on the Poole thread how ironic 😜 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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