mikebv Posted 5 hours ago Report Share Posted 5 hours ago 17 minutes ago, IainB said: That was so noticeable! They all come across as aloof prima donna's I'm afraid. I know it's a World Championship and they all want to really take it seriously and win it, but let's be honest none of them are going to, with possible exception of Kurtz while Zmarzlik is about, so they might a well just enjoy themselves. To just bugger off straight back to the pits head down after you've just won a race is not really acceptable to fans who have paid around £100 a ticket for each night... mind you Oasis seem to get away with it 😁 I presumed it must be an instruction given all did it... As the last rider exited the track, the next four came out almost immediately.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OveFundinFan Posted 5 hours ago Report Share Posted 5 hours ago 16 hours ago, teijahn said: Or if you have a huge screen like I do, or phone or second device, use the baahnsport site as they have a racecard which is promptly updated, no need for doing the detailed work yourself. Thanks for the info......but filling in a "program" has always been a big part of speedway with me, old habits are hard to die. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted 5 hours ago Report Share Posted 5 hours ago 12 minutes ago, mikebv said: I presumed it must be an instruction given all did it... As the last rider exited the track, the next four came out almost immediately.... If it was an instruction it's a very bad instruction 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted 5 hours ago Report Share Posted 5 hours ago 10 minutes ago, OveFundinFan said: Thanks for the info......but filling in a "program" has always been a big part of speedway with me, old habits are hard to die. Same for me, I kicked the habit when they hit £1 I think... try it, it's so liberating... a bit like kicking social media 😂 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FAST GATER Posted 5 hours ago Report Share Posted 5 hours ago 4 hours ago, teijahn said: He's still only 31 years old. I'd put money on him collecting 10 if I found a market on it. Barring injury I think the same , I have never seen another rider with such bike control ! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OveFundinFan Posted 5 hours ago Report Share Posted 5 hours ago 12 hours ago, r8gdp said: Way out of his depth at this level Agree......but some have been wanting GP2 champ in the series the year following.... well they got one now. I just hope he can cope mentally. Tom Brennan must be feeling it too, but he's more mature as a person and will see how much work he has to do to be a regular at that level 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FAST GATER Posted 5 hours ago Report Share Posted 5 hours ago 6 minutes ago, IainB said: If it was an instruction it's a very bad instruction May of been due to the weather perhaps . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted 5 hours ago Report Share Posted 5 hours ago Just now, FAST GATER said: May of been due to the weather perhaps . Maybe, but they still had huge track grading breaks and were even watering it on the 1st night Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teijahn Posted 4 hours ago Report Share Posted 4 hours ago 13 hours ago, r8gdp said: Way out of his depth at this level His lack of competitiveness has drawn a lot of comment in this forum. He's a 19 year old kid, if there's any criticism due its to the clowns who think these youngsters, however brilliant they may be, can make up for the 10+ years more experience and developed reflexes, coordination and racecraft of genuine GP contestants. Hopefully getting beaten half a lap in these events doesn't destroy his confidence and he can continue to develop and capitalize on his enormous natural talent. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arnieg Posted 4 hours ago Report Share Posted 4 hours ago 3 minutes ago, teijahn said: His lack of competitiveness has drawn a lot of comment in this forum. He's a 19 year old kid, if there's any criticism due its to the clowns who think these youngsters, however brilliant they may be, can make up for the 10+ years more experience and developed reflexes, coordination and racecraft of genuine GP contestants. Hopefully getting beaten half a lap in these events doesn't destroy his confidence and he can continue to develop and capitalize on his enormous natural talent. 100% agree. Very few riders get a GP chance so young. Those that do generally struggle, for example Artem Laguta, Tai Woffinden. Even 21 year old Jason Crump generally struggled in his debut seasonl But you know what they all did OK in the end. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bellevueace Posted 4 hours ago Report Share Posted 4 hours ago 12 hours ago, Bagpuss said: What a final, brilliant racing once again after those first eight heats. Best track in the world without a shadow of a doubt. There are some on here who cant wait to put the boot into the track, whats happened to the best track in the world etc, to save egg on the face maybe they should actually wait and see how the track develops, conditions affect racing, and there has never been a track anywhere in the world that can produce top class racing every meeting. A bad meeting here still trumps the racing elsewhere. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bellevueace Posted 3 hours ago Report Share Posted 3 hours ago 10 hours ago, Col said: I'm not sure about that.... Bydgoszcz at it's finest may still be my favourite, it is such a shame that there is huge gap between the track & terracing on the bends. Toruń & Wroclaw are great tracks & have stadiums that compare. Despite being a bit feral I enjoy the racing at Grudziądz & Częstochowa. Landshut was good after 40 mins of doctoring earlier this year. If they ever host a Worldish event at Västervik again I'll go. I think I enjoyed the final 8 heats and GCQ & final more than Friday, but the first 4 heats tonight especially were a bit poor. Strange how one track can produce such different racing depending on how it is prepared. Which one would Bewley have preferred is an interesting question. Zmarzllk is a joy to watch, but he'll have more World Titles than anyone else one day surely, so I just don't want him to win. But I'll take him (and almost anyone) over Jack Holder. You have take your hat off to Zmarzlik, in the final he realised he getting near Kurtz on the outside, so switched back to the inside where MJJ was. Zmarzlik didn't plough into the back off MJJ as Woryna did with Madsen the previous night. He backed off safely, allowing Holder to pass him but found the speed to pass Holder within the next lap. Last time i went to Bydgoszcz it was a poor meeting, just underlines every track has meetings where the racing isnt up to the usual standard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odds On Posted 3 hours ago Report Share Posted 3 hours ago from someone who has been to most British GP's...from Wembley, Cardiif, Belle Vue etc....none of them come close to what we are being served up right now, none of them. Instead of people trying to find faults with the last two nights of racing, try and draw on the positives. I for one loved both nights, admittedly I only went to the last night meeting but the atmosphere was very good, the racing was good and dare i say the whole event was run well. Only thing missing was a British rider on the rostrum but the racing made up for that. Cannot wait for next years two rounds at Belle Vue. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted 3 hours ago Report Share Posted 3 hours ago 2 hours ago, mikebv said: I presumed it must be an instruction given all did it... As the last rider exited the track, the next four came out almost immediately.... 2 hours ago, mikebv said: I presumed it must be an instruction given all did it... As the last rider exited the track, the next four came out almost immediately.... Probably due to weather forecast of rain shorty(which didn’t materialise) spoiled the end of Fri meeting. they can’t win really regarding weather. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob B Posted 3 hours ago Report Share Posted 3 hours ago Thought Kelvin’s commentary on that great final was lacklustre, listen to this Polish commentary. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cheese Posted 3 hours ago Report Share Posted 3 hours ago A slow start but brilliant racing again once it got going, ending with a superb final. The last two nights have shown how great this sport can be. If only that could be replicated every week across the country. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted 2 hours ago Report Share Posted 2 hours ago 21 minutes ago, Rob B said: Thought Kelvin’s commentary on that great final was lacklustre, listen to this Polish commentary. I can speak a fair bit of Polish so can translate some of it .. They said that... "Brady Kurtz was hard charging".. And that he was "coming on strong".... And also, at the end, said "this is Speedway out of the top drawer"... "SPEEDWAYYYYY!!!!!" 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted 2 hours ago Report Share Posted 2 hours ago 7 minutes ago, The Cheese said: A slow start but brilliant racing again once it got going, ending with a superb final. The last two nights have shown how great this sport can be. If only that could be replicated every week across the country. The GP's serve up, easily, some of the best racing I have ever watched... A ridiculous level of ability shown these days by the top riders... Reactions are hair trigger and made whilst doing over 80mph, with other riders within a few yards doing exactly the same... Last night MJJ, 100% was considering a dive bomb, block pass on Zmarzlik into turns one and two when Kurtz came underneath the pair of them like an express train... Amazing racing from all three involved... Zmarzlik almost hit MJJ's back wheel, went straight, locked up, went to last, and still passed Holder within a lap!!! An incredible race, on an incredible track which serves up passing opportunities from front to back in almost every race... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FAST GATER Posted 2 hours ago Report Share Posted 2 hours ago IMO the track is one of the best in the world ,over two nights it provided excellent racing and last nights final was "out of the top drawer" (even though I am a BZ fan ) Kurtz was a worthy winner . 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted 2 hours ago Report Share Posted 2 hours ago 3 hours ago, OveFundinFan said: Agree......but some have been wanting GP2 champ in the series the year following.... well they got one now. I just hope he can cope mentally. Tom Brennan must be feeling it too, but he's more mature as a person and will see how much work he has to do to be a regular at that level 3 hours ago, OveFundinFan said: Agree......but some have been wanting GP2 champ in the series the year following.... well they got one now. I just hope he can cope mentally. Tom Brennan must be feeling it too, but he's more mature as a person and will see how much work he has to do to be a regular at that level When you think Tom is the best we have got at 24 it puts into perspective the shortage of young GB triders who could compete at GP level.Think we are really relying on Cairns,Rushen and Harrison to come through in the future but they are still young and along way behind the level .Meanwhile the Danes and Poles have a handful just of the pace. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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