German GP Landshut Saturday 2nd May

[chun]

3 minutes ago, FAST GATER said:

Morris should not be allowed near a  s/way track just be a "yard -dog " to keep the  meeting flowing !

They should stick with the local track curator who surely knows the circuit the best

[IainB]

10 minutes ago, chun said:

he seems to want to stick to a certain formula regardless of conditions.  Maybe it’s him trying to be fair to all riders but it’s to the detriment of the spectacle

I think it stems back to when the local organisers used to be responsible for track prep and ballsed it up on a couple of occasions. With the FIM (fireman Phil) being responsible for it and under their specific control they have nobody else but themselves to blame, if they want to do it that way it'd probably be better to have a recognised track curator travelling with the circus to oversee track prep, Andy Meredith for example. 

Edited May 3 by IainB

[Bagpuss]

16 minutes ago, chun said:

He’s from Norfolk where this type of behaviour is common 

Most people here are half asleep most of the time 🤣

[gjcone44]

1 hour ago, IainB said:

zmarzlic started looking across at lambert before he made any contact.

 

 

[IainB]

10 minutes ago, gjcone44 said:

 

Yes, I saw that maybe he saw the kick coming out of his peripheral vision?

Edited May 3 by IainB

[gjcone44]

5 minutes ago, IainB said:

Yes, I saw that maybe he saw the kick out of his peripheral vision?

or maybe he was going to wave goodbye as he went past..😁

[marko]

Always been against outside interference of track prep, we saw it under sky for years a representative called the shots, not the track curator, certainly it shouldn’t be someone like Phil Morris calling the shots, if they must have someone at least have a proper experienced track man assisting but no one knows a track more than the person who does it week in week out.

[FAST GATER]

2 hours ago, gjcone44 said:

or maybe he was going to wave goodbye as he went past..😁

I read somewhere BZ sees this type of behaviour  as positive because it's as a weakness in his opposition !

[tyler42]

8 hours ago, arnieg said:

Thete was a very long thread on this going right back to the 1930s. 1983 was the year that caused most debate.

@lucifer sam and @norbold were two of the main contributors 

Thank you. Good old Egon 🤣

[Fromafar]

I fail to see what Lambert was trying to achieve.

[BRITISHSPEEDPOWER]

10 hours ago, Neila said:

WTF  is Lambert up to 😲

Pathetic from Lambert actually. Embarrassing behaviour from a pro

[FAST GATER]

8 hours ago, Fromafar said:

I fail to see what Lambert was trying to achieve.

You and I both !!!!

[bigcatdiary]

20 hours ago, chun said:

Riders should carry their points from the first 5 heats with the meeting finalists getting extra points.  Bewley got no reward for his final race last to first. One of the few entertaining moments

Riders should get the points they score on the day, 3, 2, 1, 0, it worked well for years and everyone including the fans could understand it, this constant tinkering, last chance qualifying cobblers should be binned.

20 heats, top 8 to two Semis and then a final, it’s fair and no one could argue against it.

[Fromafar]

10 minutes ago, bigcatdiary said:

Riders should get the points they score on the day, 3, 2, 1, 0, it worked well for years and everyone including the fans could understand it, this constant tinkering, last chance qualifying cobblers should be binned.

20 heats, top 8 to two Semis and then a final, it’s fair and no one could argue against it.

It’s quite ridiculous that someone who scores 6 from 5 rides could get 20pts for winning the final.🤔👎

[FAST GATER]

8 minutes ago, Fromafar said:

It’s quite ridiculous that someone who scores 6 from 5 rides could get 20pts for winning the final.🤔👎

I think the point is that it stops the usual suspects dominating the series as we know cream floats to the top, so if you introduce as much uncertainty as possible  it can yield  in an unexpected result . It's not the way I would like the series to be run as like many people I want the best rider on the night win ,in the case of this GP it should of been Bewley IMO  !

[Fromafar]

13 minutes ago, FAST GATER said:

I think the point is that it stops the usual suspects dominating the series as we know cream floats to the top, so if you introduce as much uncertainty as possible  it can yield  in an unexpected result . It's not the way I would like the series to be run as like many people I want the best rider on the night win ,in the case of this GP it should of been Bewley IMO  !

 

13 minutes ago, FAST GATER said:

I think the point is that it stops the usual suspects dominating the series as we know cream floats to the top, so if you introduce as much uncertainty as possible  it can yield  in an unexpected result . It's not the way I would like the series to be run as like many people I want the best rider on the night win ,in the case of this GP it should have been Bewley IMO  !

Agree with what you say, it was brought in to try to stop Bartosz winning every year😂Not really worked YET.The riders have sussed it out and ride accordingly .Woryna was worthy winner though gave it everything all night. Dan was different class on the night though.

[SPEEDY69]

On 5/2/2026 at 10:54 PM, ONTWOMINUTES said:

Well done mr woryna , not sure he'll be wc this year but what a fantastic achievement for him to win on his debut in the series like smolinski did years ago. 

The way he rides it's a bit tense, will he lose control further or stay on? I think there's a high chance he'll have a few crashes. 

[SPEEDY69]

22 hours ago, MattB said:

Must admit I'm amazed more hasn't been made of it, although given speedway's constant fear of controversy,  perhaps I shouldn't be.

I think BZ may have been starting to turn left on him but i think it makes it good to watch, talking points are what we need. 

[enotian]

3 hours ago, FAST GATER said:

I think the point is that it stops the usual suspects dominating the series as we know cream floats to the top, so if you introduce as much uncertainty as possible  it can yield  in an unexpected result . It's not the way I would like the series to be run as like many people I want the best rider on the night win ,in the case of this GP it should of been Bewley IMO  !

Wasn't it something to do with the 'them' thinking that it was too confusing when the winner of the final wasn't the top GP points scorer. Especially when compared to other motorsports.

I didn't find it confusing and prefer the old system. I don't like how finishing 2nd in one Last Chance/Semi Final scores more GP points than finishing 2nd in the other. 

Of course the new system does allow the top two heat point scorers to avoid the semi finals.

Swings and roundabouts I guess but I feel that there was more competition in each qualifying heat when every point mattered. 

[racers and royals]

2 hours ago, enotian said:

Wasn't it something to do with the 'them' thinking that it was too confusing when the winner of the final wasn't the top GP points scorer. Especially when compared to other motorsports.

I didn't find it confusing and prefer the old system. I don't like how finishing 2nd in one Last Chance/Semi Final scores more GP points than finishing 2nd in the other. 

Of course the new system does allow the top two heat point scorers to avoid the semi finals.

Swings and roundabouts I guess but I feel that there was more competition in each qualifying heat when every point mattered. 

But surely every point does count throughout the 1st 20 heats. One rider gets more points finishing 2nd in the semi than the other rider finishing 2nd in the other semi is because they finished with a better record in those 20 heats.