TTT Posted yesterday at 04:39 PM Report Share Posted yesterday at 04:39 PM Just now, Witches1998 said: I thought there was Doyle to Northampton rumours at one stage? Hopefully something big from mayfield Was but I think that was on the basis that we were getting Woryna. Doyle was the backup plan according to Aries, Mayfield would've known about Kacper's stance way in advance imo. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YeOldPitGate Posted yesterday at 05:11 PM Report Share Posted yesterday at 05:11 PM 37 minutes ago, Witches1998 said: I thought there was Doyle to Northampton rumours at one stage? Hopefully something big from mayfield Total speculation on my part but if Lambert does come back I wonder if it will be at Ippo , Guy has financial muscle, its the track for the british gp and Richard gp head honcho plus rumours bspl might top up his package. The downside as others have said even if he's on 6-7k per meeting its still buttons compared to Poland and will he want the travelling agg hopefully so as he's a great rider to watch in full flight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gasser90 Posted yesterday at 05:32 PM Report Share Posted yesterday at 05:32 PM 1 hour ago, Witches1998 said: And you know who we do have or just that we dont have these 2? Ignore me, if since heard other things so gonna keep quiet now, you definitely haven’t got Tobi M 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TTT Posted yesterday at 06:35 PM Report Share Posted yesterday at 06:35 PM 1 hour ago, YeOldPitGate said: Total speculation on my part but if Lambert does come back I wonder if it will be at Ippo , Guy has financial muscle, its the track for the british gp and Richard gp head honcho plus rumours bspl might top up his package. The downside as others have said even if he's on 6-7k per meeting its still buttons compared to Poland and will he want the travelling agg hopefully so as he's a great rider to watch in full flight. I'm wondering whether he'll race in Britain at all after Dan Bewley's OTT reaction. I don't know why Dan would've been so bothered from a personal point of view when the Polish rule wouldn't effect him considering he wants to ride in Britain every year. Maybe he was speaking up for his SoN partner Robert Lambert? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilTheAce Posted 14 hours ago Report Share Posted 14 hours ago 12 hours ago, TTT said: I'm wondering whether he'll race in Britain at all after Dan Bewley's OTT reaction. I don't know why Dan would've been so bothered from a personal point of view when the Polish rule wouldn't effect him considering he wants to ride in Britain every year. Maybe he was speaking up for his SoN partner Robert Lambert? dan didnt want to race in britain next year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
szkocjasid Posted 13 hours ago Report Share Posted 13 hours ago 16 hours ago, Aries said: I can tell you now that Woryna was the one they really wanted and were trying hard to get a deal done for him so a bit disappointed if it’s the case that they couldn’t get that over the line. Find Riding Gear Tobi less so, sorry Tobi. He’s maxed out his average as has King and I’m pretty sure that King will be in the side so it wouldn’t be good having Tobi and King as two of our three heatleaders. This is one of my biggest frustrations in Speedway, fans (or clubs) not wanting riders to come back because they did "too well" 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aries Posted 13 hours ago Author Report Share Posted 13 hours ago (edited) 4 minutes ago, szkocjasid said: This is one of my biggest frustrations in Speedway, fans (or clubs) not wanting riders to come back because they did "too well" It’s the way it works I’m afraid and I do agree. As a fan, do you want your club to win things or not? It’s that simple. Musielak and King make poor signings because of their GSA. Brennan has had an absolute stinker of a season but should be the first name on the team sheet. The perverse way Speedway works. Edited 13 hours ago by Aries 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted 13 hours ago Report Share Posted 13 hours ago 1 minute ago, Aries said: It’s the way it works I’m afraid and I do agree. As a fan, do you want your club to win things or not? It’s that simple. Musielak and King make poor signings because of their GSA. And will always be the case whilst team limits are set below what it takes to win a meeting It means season after season averages inflate and eventually if you keep inflating something it reaches the point it goes POP! Team total needs to be at 42 as a basic Below that you weaken the product gradually Raise the limit and over time the quality can rise - so long that quality is available willingly and able 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilTheAce Posted 13 hours ago Report Share Posted 13 hours ago 11 minutes ago, dontforgetthefueltapsbruv said: And will always be the case whilst team limits are set below what it takes to win a meeting It means season after season averages inflate and eventually if you keep inflating something it reaches the point it goes POP! Team total needs to be at 42 as a basic Below that you weaken the product gradually Raise the limit and over time the quality can rise - so long that quality is available willingly and able absolutely bang on as per, do you want the job as head of the table Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TTT Posted 13 hours ago Report Share Posted 13 hours ago PTA info says Lidsey is back at Northampton, You'd also assume that Kye Thomson is back. Does that make Adam Ellis available for a Witches return? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted 13 hours ago Report Share Posted 13 hours ago 15 minutes ago, PhilTheAce said: absolutely bang on as per, do you want the job as head of the table Well I suppose I do have the time now I've retired Not sure I have the patience though! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted 13 hours ago Report Share Posted 13 hours ago (edited) 13 hours ago, TTT said: I'm wondering whether he'll race in Britain at all after Dan Bewley's OTT reaction. I don't know why Dan would've been so bothered from a personal point of view when the Polish rule wouldn't effect him considering he wants to ride in Britain every year. Maybe he was speaking up for his SoN partner Robert Lambert? Dan did miss the UK out in 2022 when he rode in Poland and Sweden only, so maybe he plans to do the same next year?.. Edit. He won two GP's that year, and the British Final as well... Obviously was allowed to ride.!! Edited 12 hours ago by mikebv Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted 12 hours ago Report Share Posted 12 hours ago 1 hour ago, dontforgetthefueltapsbruv said: And will always be the case whilst team limits are set below what it takes to win a meeting It means season after season averages inflate and eventually if you keep inflating something it reaches the point it goes POP! Team total needs to be at 42 as a basic Below that you weaken the product gradually Raise the limit and over time the quality can rise - so long that quality is available willingly and able One of the most requested things on the forum down the years I would say.. That, and let whoever finishes top of the table be the benchmark for the year after... Fans build an affinity with riders and then they move on!!! Absolutely crackers from a business perspective... You become successful and then have to start again the year after!! What nonsense is that?.. Using the top of the table teams' figure would also mean riders not having to (ahem) "manage" their averages late in the season.. Kids in particular love having "heroes" so to maintain their interest, let their "heroes" stay if the club wants it happen... (THE biggest opportunity for the sport is more kids as they bring paying adults!!)... Due to the lack of any large number of new riders coming into UK Speedway each year, what we have is akin to shuffling exactly the same deckchairs on the Titanic each close season... Put simply, have an incremental growth plan for the sport, and stop dumbing down.. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPEEDY69 Posted 11 hours ago Report Share Posted 11 hours ago 1 hour ago, mikebv said: One of the most requested things on the forum down the years I would say.. That, and let whoever finishes top of the table be the benchmark for the year after... Fans build an affinity with riders and then they move on!!! Absolutely crackers from a business perspective... You become successful and then have to start again the year after!! What nonsense is that?.. Using the top of the table teams' figure would also mean riders not having to (ahem) "manage" their averages late in the season.. Kids in particular love having "heroes" so to maintain their interest, let their "heroes" stay if the club wants it happen... (THE biggest opportunity for the sport is more kids as they bring paying adults!!)... Due to the lack of any large number of new riders coming into UK Speedway each year, what we have is akin to shuffling exactly the same deckchairs on the Titanic each close season... Speedway Merchandise Put simply, have an incremental growth plan for the sport, and stop dumbing down.. I agree with much of this but do think team strengths need equalising somehow - it works well in other sports. If Ipswich had been allowed to keep their side from 1998, not only would the 99 season probably have bankrupted them if they'd retained all riders, would other teams have actually stood a chance of competing either? There should be a much wider gap between Championship and Premiership. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted 9 hours ago Report Share Posted 9 hours ago 59 minutes ago, SPEEDY69 said: I agree with much of this but do think team strengths need equalising somehow - it works well in other sports. If Ipswich had been allowed to keep their side from 1998, not only would the 99 season probably have bankrupted them if they'd retained all riders, would other teams have actually stood a chance of competing either? There should be a much wider gap between Championship and Premiership. One of the "weird" plusses for Speedway is the actual lack of huge financial rewards for winning.. No team would put together a team of "World Beaters" as they couldn't afford it, or, even if they could, their own crowds would suffer, as watching them hammer opponents each meeting would become boring... It doesn't even need massive differences in team averages, just stop moving the sport backwards each season... And having a "Manchester United" that brings the largest crowds in when they visit can't be a bad thing for the sport.. Other "Minority" sports, like both Rugby codes, Basketball and Ice Hockey have their regular "top teams", who bring in good home fan turnouts when visitng other teams.. It should always be about moving the sport forward.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YeOldPitGate Posted 5 hours ago Report Share Posted 5 hours ago 8 hours ago, Aries said: It’s the way it works I’m afraid and I do agree. As a fan, do you want your club to win things or not? It’s that simple. Musielak and King make poor signings because of their GSA. Brennan has had an absolute stinker of a season but should be the first name on the team sheet. The perverse way Speedway works. Reading "Simmo's" book and there's a chapter on where he deliberatly scored zero so he could get his average down to move to Hackney lower league the following season. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
89buttons Posted 1 hour ago Report Share Posted 1 hour ago I wonder if mikkel michelsen could be tempted over? Rumour was Louis got very close to a deal with him as an injury replacement for Doyle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YeOldPitGate Posted 1 minute ago Report Share Posted 1 minute ago 1 hour ago, 89buttons said: I wonder if mikkel michelsen could be tempted over? Rumour was Louis got very close to a deal with him as an injury replacement for Doyle Even the second tier of young danes would be welcome additions if we couldn't get michelsen or Bastian Pederson over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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