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  1. 25 points
    I reacted with despair and dismay to the totally unnecessary further restrictions announced yesterday. We seem to have lost all sense of perspective in all this. Due to the upsurge in testing we are seeing around 3000 new cases a day but the hospital admissions and deaths are thankfully flat lining. Back in early May with the test regime in place then we were also seeing around 3000 cases a day but deaths recorded then were around 5-600 a day. If there was the capability to test as many as we are testing now back in March there would have been enough new cases to fill Wembley Stadium every day, according to the London School of Hygiene and Tropical Medicine's estimates. Yet now we are still destroying the economy, the hospitality and leisure industries, jobs, healthcare on case numbers that would just about fill the home straight stand at the East of England Showground - and the vast majority of those would have minor or no symptoms at all. Life is full of risks that we evaluate and act accordingly upon. The simple act of getting up in the morning and going downstairs carries risks - around 800 people a year die falling down the stairs in the UK - and none of us are put off getting in the car and driving somewhere despite on average 75 people being killed or seriously injured on our roads every day. And no one has ever been overly concerned about a respiratory virus that still kills 1,000's each year despite there being a vaccination against it, simply because it's always been present and we are used to living with it. Yet for many that rational evaluation of Covid is not happening and the government's actions are not allowing it to happen. Piling on restrictions installs fear, not reassurance. Sitting at home hiding under the stairs will not make this go away and who really wants to spend their life living that way?
  2. 23 points
    These pictures from Wales are insane. Who should have the right to determine what an essential item is for one person compared to another? For most people a TV that stops working would not be classed as essential, for the lonely old lady who lives on her own it could be her only contact with the outside world. For most people a broken microwave isn't essential, for some it's their only way of having a hot meal. For most people new bedding isn't essential, for someone who's looking after a sick relative it might be. For most people a video game isn't essential but for the 10 year old child that now is perhaps the only way to keep in touch with their friends. It's disgraceful that not only is this happening but that there are people who think it's actually necessary
  3. 21 points
    Well I'd hate to disappoint you!.. We went into lockdown in March, the idea being to buy time and flatten the curve. Indeed, as Dr David Nabbaro, the WHO's special envoy on Covid 19 said "The only time we believe a lockdown is justified is to buy you time to reorganise, rebalance your resources: protect your health workers who are exhausted" "We (the WHO) do not advocate lockdowns as the primary means of control of this virus". Well we had three months of it and on the plus side the curve was flattened (though the peak in cases was before the lockdown started), the air was cleaner, wildlife benefited, there was less noise, a lot of people found that they could and actually liked working from home and by and large people followed the guidelines. On the down side 40,000 still died within 28 days of a positive test, at least as many again if not more will probably die as a direct result of the lockdown restrictions, millions lost their jobs, thousands of businesses went to the wall, hundreds of people didn't get their cancer's detected early due to screening's being suspended, large numbers of routine operations were cancelled meaning for some treatable conditions became permanent ones, mounting mental health issues and national debt exceeded £2 trillion for the first time. And after all that we now find ourselves more or less back where we started. This time there is plenty of 'real' evidence and data related to the virus, not just models. And there are now thousands of doctors, scientists epidemiologists, many as eminent in their fields as the governments experts, some more meritorious who say that the approach is wrong and there is another way. Who knows if they are right? The shameful thing is there is no debate to be had, SAGE go completely unchallenged and most of the media (not all) seek to smear them rather than argue and debate what they say. They have set out their arguments clearly and with data to back why they think SAGE are wrong. Why the Imperial College models that SAGE use are hopelessly wrong. These are not conspiracy theorists, lizard people or general loons but people who at least should be properly heard. So we are going to do it all again. I'm not a medical expert but I'll tell you what will happen. The curve will gradually flatten but with no planned exit strategy as soon as it ends it will creep back up again and we'll be back where we started yet again. In the meantime thousands more jobs will be lost and it will be the final straw for countless more businesses. Hospital waiting lists for non Covid conditions will spiral even further out control. The hospitality and leisure sector will be a case of not so much kicking a man when he's down but picking up the baseball bat and continuously clubbing it over the head until it's very lifeblood is running into the gutter. Lockdown failed before and it will fail again. At the very least we should be looking for and talking to those who see another way.
  4. 21 points
    You mean those 'experts' who thought it was a good idea to shove all the elderly back into care homes untested from hospitals. It was obvious to anyone with a microgram of common sense what would happen. Those 'experts' who decided to suspend all cancer screenings, all diagnostic services and just concentrate on Covid. It was obvious to anyone with a microgram of common sense what would happen. Those 'experts' that completely closed down the hospitality and leisure industries, hoping that chucking a bit of money at it would see them through, then allowing them to re-open partially with heavy restrictions, again hoping that they will survive it all. It was obvious to anyone with a microgram of common sense what would happen. And today, Roche are having trouble supplying swabs and testing materials as well as analysing tests for the NHS. This includes Covid, cancer, diabetes , blood and urine tests. To help solve the problems, the 'experts' are going to prioritise Covid tests! As in "f**k the cancer patients, they can wait." Now if you were to poll the general public 'Would you rather take your chances with Covid or cancer?' Common sense tells me what the answer would be...
  5. 21 points
    People who live in tax havens and lecture others about social responsibility will always be on a sticky wicket.
  6. 20 points
    Let's stop the sniping for a while, and all send best wishes to Tomasz Gollob who has tested positive for covid, and allegedly has sepsis. You can fight this big man
  7. 20 points
    You are of course correct in that you have to read all or as much material and evidence as possible to form your own opinion on a subject. You say you've done that and judging by your posts on here, support the government's policies of lockdowns and all other measures introduced. So in your opinion, how did you justify to yourself the damage to other hospital services; for instance the potential extra deaths, according to Cancer research charities, of 35,000 patients, the 110,000 people now waiting more than a year for treatment, the 4.2 million on NHS waiting lists, the 2,100 avoidable deaths from strokes and heart attacks during lockdown, and the fact that 173,00 fewer people were seen in hospital for the major health conditions? How do you, in your opinion, justify the colossal damage wrecked upon our economy and jobs market? Output down by 22%, the £34+billion paid out in furlough to fit and well people to stay at home rather than work, hundreds of thousands of jobs already gone and hundreds of thousands more will be gone soon. Countless businesses closing their doors forever. The hospitality industry being closed yet again and being used as a scapegoat for the rise in cases. And in your opinion was it right for the government aided by the media to whip up such unnecessary and unfounded fear amongst the general public; that the virus was an indiscriminate killer, that people, were no longer friends or family but potential biohazards to such an extent that some (my father being one!) are still afraid to leave the house? The mental health issues that will inevitably arise from this as well can't be overlooked. And in your opinion was it logical to shut schools for something that doesn't unduly effect children (Covid) whilst we never do for something that can cause them harm ('flu)? All of this has been done in an attempt to suppress a virus that does not kill 99.9% of it's victims, a virus that 80% of people who contract it are asymptomatic (according to latest studies) and there is clear knowledge as to who are at risk and need support and protecting. We've had one major lockdown that did not work, there are 20 or so local lockdowns that are not making the blind bit of difference and on Monday it appears that the government will be dishing out more of the same which will no doubt produce the same result. So I'll be really interested to hear from you, or any lockdown supporters the evidence and reasoning you used to come to your decision, because I have looked and looked and I as sure as hell can't find anywhere near enough to support it.
  8. 18 points
    All the scenes of the under pressure hospitals shown on the news do look distressing and installs a gut fear that it could be you or a loved one, and you cannot have anything but an emotional empathy with the patients and staff involved. As Fenway said the other day this feeling of emotion and fear, re-enforced by continual sensationalist media has easily trumped stats, evidence and graphs no matter how well researched and intentioned by the anti lockdown side. You are seen by many as an unfeeling bastard for not agreeing, daring to question or disputing the government's interpretation of the figures and lockdown policy. That your arguments are all based on cold stark statistics, figures, data charts and graphs, not people. But imagine if we were bombarded night after night on the news with, instead of hospitals bulging at the seams, queues of ambulances and stressed staff, footage of a consultant looking a patient in the eye and saying 'I'm sorry, you have advanced stage cancer, we've caught it too late, there's little we can do' then it cuts to a doctor holding an old ladies hand saying 'with all the delays and cancellations to your op I'm afraid that your treatable condition is now a permanent one' then it moves to someone opening a letter or email that tells them they no longer have a job. Then to a business owner packing his last belongings as he locks and leaves his recently collapsed business for the last time. Next to a despairing parent as they watch their child falling further behind at school because they haven't got and can't afford the equipment for online schooling. Then on to the single parent who has recently lost her job and is feeding her three kids with one tin of beans and nothing for herself. Finally we move to the police informing a distraught parent that their child has committed suicide. Sensationalist of course and won't happen and nor should it but these are scenes now playing out, some multiple times everyday and some will carry on happening for years to come, all due to lockdown. But what would the public say if this sort of scenario was on our screens, night after night after night? Lockdown advocates at some point have to face up to the realities that the policy they support are creating. This is as far as I see it the far bigger picture and a more damaging situation that will resonate for years, long after the pandemic is over. Alternative strategies from well respected figures have been tabled but are not even discussed. Just trying the same failed idea of locking down over and over again hoping for a different outcome is sheer bloody madness.
  9. 18 points
    It seems to have become a matter of fact on here that if you don't think lockdowns and restrictions are te answer you don't believe covid is a real thing and do believe it is all a conspiracy so I thought I'd make my own position clear. It's unlikely anybody would agree with all my views and some will agree with none of them but that's fine, I'm no expert on the subject. Do I believe Covid is a real virus? Yes very much so, it is a horrible virus that kills people. However I also believe that it almost exclusively kills very easily identifiable sections of society and therefore solutions that apply to all aren't going to be the answer. I say almost exclusively because like any fatal disease there will be a number of cases that fall outside the normal. Do I believe that any government reaction should be based upon Professor Fergusons worst case scenario models? Not in a million years, I do understand that much of what we see in the press is not a fair representation of all that he says but government acted on his worst case model and they have been proven many times to be wildly pessimistic. Do I think the government are telling the truth? No I think they are telling a version of events using statistics carefully chosen to justify their actions rather than reacting to the real figures. There will always be some truth to their version but equally there will always be some truth to the version of those opposing their views. Usually the truth will be somewhere between just like always. Do I think lockdowns work? No, I think it is pretty clear that they are not controlling the virus, never have and never will. The time of year has far more effect than anything the government has done or will do. On the other hand when it comes to everything that isn't covid lockdowns and restrictions have been a disaster. Hundreds of thousands will die in years to come because of delayed diagnosis, even more will have their lives destroyed by unemployment, poverty and homelessness and an entire generation of kids will not understand freedom of choice or that they are responsible for their own actions. Have I been taken in by things posted on here and elsewhere that haven't been true? Yes without a doubt, I'd like to think that I have usually realised afterwards but there will undoubtedly be some that have slipped past me. I'm pretty sure that will apply to both sides of the argument but like EVERYBODY else I am more inclined to believe things that fit with the views I already hold. What do I think should be done going forward? I would make sure that everybody who is most vulnerable is identified and made aware of the fact. Then I would help those who chose to isolate and those who care for them to do so with every possible facility, including full furlough until returning to work is safe. Everybody else would be allowed to carry on as normal but I would encourage hand washing and social distancing. PCR testing would be used at the recommended cycle rate for all front line workers until the vaccination program is established and proven to work. And that would be it, trying to control a virus is far too Canute like for my way of thinking.
  10. 18 points
    Let's stop believing this disinformation. The number of perfectly healthy folk who die from COVID is infinitesimally small. Whenever you dig into the details of these supposedly 'healthy young people' who've died, you find there's some underlying condition in nearly every case. That does not mean their lives shouldn't be valued and it's not a tragedy, but there's no guarantees about anything in life, and certainly no guarantees that anyone would go on to live a long and healthy life. Every year a small number of otherwise healthy people die from other infections they pick up, food poisoning, cancer, heart attacks and all manner of other maladies. Unfortunately, there's always a balance in life between practicality and safety, and the COVID-19 'cure' has become far worse then the disease - destroying livelihoods, increasing preventable deaths from cancer, and even more tragically a massive rise in suicides that's directly attributable to declining mental health because of lockdowns. Governments have had a nearly a year to work out strategies to get as much of the population back to normality as possible, yet they seem to have learned nothing and just resort to a crude stick every the supposed medical experts and media hit the panic button. A few countries have dealt with things in a much more sensible manner which shows that it can be done. It's pathetic, but they're terrified enough of the population into supporting the ridiculous measures.
  11. 18 points
    What you don't do is continue trying the same things that failed before again and again. We don't have to 'face' the consequences because they are already happening. We know who are most at risk so resources should be directed at them, the vast sums of money spent protecting people who don't need protecting is just a waste. I fully appreciate that it's rather glib and easy to just say 'protect the vulnerable' and that some of the 'vulnerable' would rather take responsibility for their own safety but that is where the government should be directing their plans and resources. The pressure is being applied on government to go for a two week lockdown, the so-called circuit breaker. I really hope they for once they actually stick to their guns and resist it. In real life a circuit breaker instantly stops the flow of electricity. You can't instantly stop the flow of a virus nor can you stop the flow of people, there will always be key workers, utility staff, shop staff out and about so for a start the term circuit breaker is yet more bollocks speak. All it will do is kick the problem two weeks further down the road and at the same time be the final straw for thousands more businesses and jobs. Look at where we are now with the ridiculous tier system. I'm now in a tier 2 region where you can get on a bus with someone to go to work, work all day with them at the office yet you're not allowed to go for a beer with them afterwards. Where businesses in the hospitality sector can stay open yet the rules make it financially unviable for them to do so and there is no financial support for them. Where the trade body for UK hospitality estimate that 200,000 jobs will go in London alone this weekend due to the new tier grading. An over estimation no doubt but a colossal number even if they're only half right. The same rules that have been applied to the North West for getting on for three months and hasn't made the blind bit of difference. Why keep trying the same failed things? We have to learn as a country to live with it and don't let fear conquer reason. Take sensible precautions like washing hands, keeping your distance and taking responsibility for your own health but we've got to get on with living and not hiding. Yes infection rates are going up as they always do at this time of year for respiratory diseases but are only around a fifth of what they were in Spring so there is no reason why hospitals will be overwhelmed. And also to remember that the vast, vast majority of people who catch Covid will have few or no symptoms.
  12. 17 points
    It's alright guys it's not hot gossip ! It's that time of the year to say a really big thank you to both to Sue and R and R for the brilliant results service that Sue and her gang provide, and to R and R for his fantastic mine of information and knowledge of Polish and European speedway, and above all providing us with links so that we can enjoy quality speedway on the internet. You've both kept my life time involvement and interest in speedway alive Happy New Year to you both and stay safe Roll on April !
  13. 17 points
    Olly Allen came to a meeting of the Nuneaton Supportes Club in February. He has been very active in getting the Poultec apprenticeship going. It provides for recognised engineering qualifications as well as specialist speedway knowledge. This includes bike and engine training, track craft (regular track days under the guidance of senior riders) and other aspects of being a professional rider such as diet, keeping in good shape and dealing with the fourth estate. Olly brought several youngsters from the course with him to the meeting and their appearance, ability to speak, and thier overall demeanour was very impressive. Olly explained that he has been jointly recruited to the GB Team Management with Simon Stead because of his expertese with young riders. What he is bulding is a speedway academy and I, for one, wish him well in this endeavour.
  14. 17 points
    The whole thing seems to have just become a political football now, with decisions not being made on the basis of sensible science - either with respect to what's clearly now known about COVID-19, or about the behaviour of previous viruses. Economies and livelihoods have been wrecked for the sake of a virus that has little affect on 97+% of the population and few under the age of 60, and another health timebomb is developing because of a lack of timely treatment of routine illnesses. Lockdowns have not also prevented deaths, nor got anywhere close to eradicating the virus. Governments have now had plenty of time to come up with plans and system to get countries back to a resemblance of normality for the majority of their populations, yet the best the UK government can come-up with is closing pubs at 10pm. Utterly pathetic. And of course you now have both Nicola Sturgeon and Keir Starmer who'd rather make political capital rather than propose with any sensible solutions to the problem. One wonder how much longer the public are going to tolerate this collective nonsense?
  15. 16 points
    I will not be sorry to see the back of this year. Tonight I will raise a glass to my family members who are no longer with us, as will many thousands of others. Really hoping 2021 brings better news. Happy 2021 fellow forumers.
  16. 16 points
    Scarily true. What an absolute joke of a world we live in. I can't put into words how disgustingly this is being managed. Decisions made on the back of, at best, crude scientific advice from people who only have tunnel vision that this would be the end of the world as we know it if kept unchecked. There's no conclusive proof lockdowns work. How on earth are people happy to go along with this. It's staggering. People who are happy with these rulings must be extremely lonely individuals.
  17. 16 points
    Zenon was a legend at Hackney and I am devastating by this news. He was fearless on a bike and a gentleman off it. One minute on the line the next up on the fence. Amazing rider. I got to know him well during the run up to the Hackney reunion in 205 when I had the absolute privilege of him staying with me for a week. How many sports top riders integrate with fans (at least from that era) to that extent as speedway. More recently I was a guest at his meeting in Gdansk and was privilege to be invited to the after party where we once again regaled tails of the good old days. The last time I saw him was the day I flew home from that meeting where I delivered a letter to him from his old mate Barry Thomas. His smile whilst reading it lit up the room and it is that picture that I will remember. RIP Zenon and thanks for all the excitement you gave a 9 year in 1976.
  18. 16 points
    Just heard Jeremy Hunt on the radio (I know but it's about what he said not who it is!) He said that it is know known that for every direct covid death there has been at least one indirect cancer death due to failure to treat or diagnose because of Covid restrictions. That's just cancer so it is certain that when you add in all the other indirect deaths from untreated heart issues and so on that there is a massive mistake being made. This is where DC2 would be handy because he would at least put figures to the statement. Whether you agree or disagree with their opinion I think their research of statistics has given much more in depth information with which to form an opinion.
  19. 16 points
    Save the covid stas to the covid thread please and not here.
  20. 16 points
    Four main reasons I would think 1. Manchester is in varying degrees of lockdown week to week so planning an event there at the moment is very risky and has no guarantee it will happen. 2. Ipswich has around two thirds more capacity than the NSS so when percentage restrictions are applied you can still get a reasonable (and more importantly viable), crowd in.. 3. With Kings Lynn, Peterborough and Mildenhall all 'local' you have four lots of Speedway starved fanbases to pull from, which (with a good few from around other parts attending) hopefully will ensure all tickets available will be sold.. And 4. Ipswich might be 'in the middle of nowhere' but does traditionally at Easter get one of the largest crowds (if not THE largest single crowd), of the season at any track, so obviously have a strong underlying fanbase who show they will attend on one off occasions.. Put it all together and I would think the size of the venue, the amount of awareness of Speedway that exists in that geographical area, and the fairly low impact of Covid 19 to that part of the country, ticks a lot of boxes when it comes to planning and putting on an event that needs a crowd to be a financially viable...
  21. 16 points
    Why all this fuss about being stopped by the Police. Surely as an MP she is aware of the knife and drug crime being committed in her constituency and the entire London area? Crime doesn't get detected or reduced by Police officers sitting on their ar5es watching the world go by, these were conscientious officers doing their lawful duty. If the incident which happened four thousand miles away in the USA hadn't, then we wouldn't be hearing about this at all! What seems to have been forgotten is that across the pond all Police officers are routinely armed with lethal weapons, as are quite a large number of their general population. Here the Police carry out their duties by consent. If they choose to stop a car (be it because of tinted windows, where it is registered) we have as a population, agreed that they can do. What was the problem here? the driver stopped, the officers spoke with the occupants of the car and the initial exchanges were polite, relevant questions asked, and one of the officers said they couldn't see into the back of the car because of the tinted glass (possibly from a safety point of view). It then becomes a racial issue, why? This whole thing was a routine every day matter that has been created into something else by one person...... Dawn Butler. Hope she's proud of herself, as someone has already highlighted, as an MP she should be trying to help Police/Public relations not destroying them.
  22. 16 points
    I think EIA needs a reminder of what was going on around that time.Ford was unhappy that Coventry had managed to keep Shamek at reserve for so long, IMO they used the very same criteria that Ford himself used many times (ie they played Ford at his own game)and he didn't like it .Pawlicki's 16 +1 did for Poole on the second leg meeting and Ford reacted by taking in his firework display, turning off the hot water to the visitors shower room & removing the Champagne from the bar area. Hardly the reaction expected from a mature person. Then came the sudden rapidly arranged meeting by a select few who connived a change in the conversion factor for lower league riders moving up, effectively screwing up bees deals for two riders already in place. I've seen comments that the teams shouldn't be selected before the AGM but we all know that it was the accepted way of doing things for years ,and probably stilll is now. We also had the re assessment of Pawlicki's average, another very unfair decision. Despite all the protests to the contrary it seems blatantly obvious that Ford was the Prime Mover in all that went on in the winter of discontent, & to add insult to injury he then proceded to register Kildemand as a poole rider whilst the bees were in the middle of a team shuffle mid season 2011. Kildemand went public and stated that he had no knowledge of his transfer to Poole as he hadn't even spoken to Ford. But it did have the desired effect as it stopped Coventry using him again.Those are just some of the moves of a very underhanded & bitter man.
  23. 15 points
    I believe that is the reason for the current political decision making and inflexibility. Once the govt chose to pursue the path of lockdown and suspension of civil liberties it cannot stop. They will listen to SAGE and those egging on more restrictions, ignoring any dissent. I accept that sceptics like myself have lost that argument, we are in the minority, our opinion leaders are suppressed and the weight of public opinion is influenced not by logical thought and curiosity but by the emotion and fear. The govt egged on by SAGE and the MSM pictures last March panicked the public deliberately to change behaviour.....to save others and not to kill your granny...Those who questioned this cult were accused of not caring about killing others , being selfish and some how right wing and despotic. That is a difficult position from which to tackle the authorities. Further actions regarding masks, closing pubs and schools have been accepted by a terrorised public happy to forfeit Liberty for the mirage of safety. Pointing out the very limited effect of lockdown , the uselessness of masks and that this virus only affects to the very old and infirm is met by derision from those only able to accept the approved dictat coming from our political leaders. Surely they would not do this unless it was all necessary ? There is a way for the govt to get out of this , by rolling out vaccines, any vaccine , and altering the PCR cycles and tests. They need to ignore the scientists, drunk on power and influence and pay heed to the economic damage and lack of non COVID care to convince the public of a “ change of tack “ However too many have been damaged by this campaign of fear and will never recover, the govt cannot admit any missteps, but the current tightening of thumb screws risks civil disorder when the money tree runs dry. Quite how we got here shows that hysteria and fear can still trump logic and pragmatism.
  24. 15 points
    Yes. All of that. Just like in March there was a set plan to avoid lockdown ... All disappeared in 24 hours or so and total capitulation to the braying mob ... And now we've gone down the same route again. Wrong. Just wrong.
  25. 15 points
    And if the government and the MSM had publicised this and been honest about it from the outset and throughout, rather than perpetuated the lie that Covid does not discriminate, we would not be in the total mess of the public having no confidence in the re-opening of schools. The government is paying for its lies.

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