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That wasn't Janowski's misfortune. That was a mistake that the rider made. Tragic really

What is? The World Cup returns in 2023 and will held every three years. The Speedway Of Nations will still operate in the other seasons. Can't believe the moaning on here. GB win for the first time in 32 years and people still find something to moan about.

Would that include Your anti Poole/Paul prejudice.

As neither the BSPL Chairman or Vice-Chairman thought the biggest speedway event held in Britain this year worthy of their attendance, it’s no wonder that the belated press release - nearly 14 hours after the event was completed - gets it wrong. Having overseen the near collapse of the NDL, the league that was one of the things that helped all four of the GB riders find their way in the sport, they should now bow their heads in shame and walk away. The disastrous last few years, with problems accelerated rather than caused by Covid has shown that vested interest in decision making is dragging British speedway down the road to ruin. The new GB Team operation shows what can be done with skill, initiative, forward planning and total commitment. They deserve to be supported by people who understand about sport at the highest level and what it takes to be successful.

... Or just ask the forums... better than Google!

Yes, that is why we are talking about Plymouth!

A Polish post- translated It was supposed to be £ 15, just like every game against Glasgow, but due to Poland and the huge difference in the exchange rate (for us it would be PLN 80!), The price for such an event was reduced to only £ 5 (about PLN 25), so it was very cheap as for most PPV. And the spectacle promises to be quite big, the track is fantastic, and the competitors, even though it is a social competition, will go all the way because this is the last competition and the equipment does not need to be spared. Champions with runners-up. Presentation with both anthems before the game. I invite you to the last transmission of SPEEDWAY in 2021. Additionally, you will be able to choose a commentary in English with Pearson or Polish with Tomasz Lorek!

Well I have paid £15 to watch it. I suspect it’s cheaper then paying to see “live”, and as I live 200 miles away I can sit in my comfy chair as well. Supporters on here say British Speedway is not worth paying £20 to see 15 minutes of “entertainment”. So what would they pay to see top class world champions…. I counting 7 (maybe more) between the two teams.. that is including under 21, team/pairs, individual. £15 too much.!

What about Bob, Cyril,and Bert Roger

Don,t want proctor or Alitt.

GB were worthy winners,but all this criticism of Janowski is pathetic,he is total World class made a small error and suddenly he is useless and a bottler.Get a grip. Did Tai not make a small error on the 1st day. Anyway ,best wishes to Tai for speedy recovery.

100%. The NDL is needed... However, the level they now run at is far too far away from the next level above... Meaning the jump needed is too far... Therefore they need to decide whether to dilute the level above or increase the standard of the NDL by bringing in more experienced lads from the middle tier.. Personally, for me, the whole structure should be based on an "Elite" League which you use to 'sell the sport', ten x five man teams with say 3 squad riders on stand by for injuries, so no guests, and then a league of "Championship Lite/NDL Plus" for all the rest, where you can run the RS system, having these lads as part of the "Elite" squads' list so they can come in to replace missing riders, with an aim to gain themselves a permanent team place if they do better than the man they replaced..

Agree, Tom has lost almost two years so far so this season is really his first full year out of the NDL

Google? How does that work then?

What you say about Woffy, Lambert and Bewley is true (and you can add that much of British champion Adam Ellis' formative experience was on French grasstrack). BUT To survive British speedway needs to produce its own riders. The NDL plays a vital role in ensuring that we have the second strings of the future. Without the NDL to provide opportunities to learn would riders like Paul Starke, Danyon Hume, Alfie Bowtell and Simon Lambert still be in the sport?

Woffy spent his formative years in Oz, riding very regularly out there to launch his career and came over here well advanced in his development for his age level.. Robert Lambert spent his early years learning his craft riding regularly in German racing as he couldn't get permission to race in GB due to his age. And Dan Bewley was one of those riders who crossed over from another bike discipline and finds he is a "natural" on a Speedway bike, so would have made it through sheer natural ability regardless of age and opportunities to race, (similar to someone like John Louis).. A simple fact is that riders of their natural talent, (like so many riders who reach the top levels), would have "made it" anyway given whatever route they took.. A bit tenuous to suggest it's any big influence from the NDL.. Tom, (who doesnt seem to be quite at the same level at this stage of his development that those other three were at the same stage), looks like someone who has benefited from riding in the NDL, as he has made solid incremental progression, but, (like the others), it was the "old NDL" where he got the chance to ride against better more experienced competitors... Not sure that someone starting out today, and are similar in ability to where Tom was, would get the same development given they wont be getting stretched the same.. I would suggest Woffy and the Team who took over running "Team Great Britain" have been far more influential in the success of this weekend....

I think I posted just before Dave Jones did.

Were GB lucky ? Yes, to an extent, on this occasion, but you need at least some good fortune to succeed. Peeps seem forget for years most GB team managers mostly didn't play with a full deck, literally. Joking aside over a longish period (2000 or so on) the GB squad was made up from the likes of Scott Nicholls, the late Lee Richardson, Mark Loram, Chris Louis, Carl Stonehewer, Joe Screen, Gary Havelock, David Norris, Sean Wilson, Simon Stead, Chris Harris, Tai Woffinden, the list goes on - a squad to kick serious behind on any track. But at any one time at least one or two of them were on the injured list. In recent years Woffinden was unavailable (his business, it happened) and was also out injured, unfortunately two of the remaining riders (Cook & Lambert) collided like Sweden did on the Friday night; effectively game over. When Woffinden also crashed out on Friday nite I thought, said and texted "oh no, not again !". But the next nite a ready-made replacement squad member stepped in; "Dan Bewley come on down and prepare for the meeting of your life !", and we all saw what happened. The remaining 3 stepped up, took the opportunities that occured, rode their hearts out, delivered - and how. Ok, Bewley rode his home track & the other 2 were at least familiar with Belle Vue NSS, but it was the same for everyone of course and the Poles in particular must have been rubbing their hands with glee on seeing the track; a Polish-style circuit in the UK. With due respect to the experienced GB riders, it was still possible for any them to suiffer falls, crash out big-style, tape exclusions, machine problems, etc, we all know what can happen in speedway, especially after witnessing their captain and leader get ruled out by a well-nasty crash. When Woffinden recovers + add Lambert, Bewley, Brennan and the likes of Drew Kemp, Leon Flint, The Thompson Twins, etc waiting in the wings the future for GB looks a heck of lot better than of late. This is our time right now, we have waited long enough, enjoy it is my advice, for next year everyone starts all over again. One last point: the GP series carries accumulated points scored through the season, replacing the one-off World Finals of old, yet the current SON format guarrantees a 'winner takes all race', like a one-off World Final....

Doubt it, clash of race night, but as one Roo boy leaves perhaps another’s coming in.

That's a bad injury for an 18y/o, never mind an embryo.

Bore off. For God's sake some are just never happy. We are world champions if you can't enjoy that then sport (Any Sport) isn't for you.

Speedway fans really will moan about anything.

Agree totally with Gordon P here! Sadly, in it's current guise there isn't any real prospect of British Speedway going anywhere but even further downhill (not that it can sink much further). Yes, there are some good people with the right intentions currently serving as promoters - but the last 2 Chairs aren't/weren't fit for purpose internally and more importantly externally. But until the majority of promoters finally agree that we need an independent body running the sport domestically, then there is no real hope for change. Let's give Rob Painter and his team the accolades they deserve today though!

I couldn’t have said it better myself..I left the meeting today thinking blimey that was good and then I read the forum !….speedway at top level racing wise has actually never been better in my opinion , or at least from the 70’s onwards which is when I have watched from.

There's been very few.The odd posters are known for certain remarks.In general though i would say above 90% of posters on here have merely stated Janowski made a mistake.I think you have taken an odd posters remarks to heart.

They were ready to race before the time ran out though.So what’s your point,you can see them checking the clock.

Just checked on the result again.. Still says Great Britain won.. Poland were second And Denmark third.. No mention of who beat who, and by how far, and how many times they did it in the qualifying races leading up to the Final... A Final which ended, Zmarzlik, Lambert, Bewley, Janowski... GB 5 - Poland 4... I suspect as the years go by and it passes into the midst of time it will still only say.. 2021 Speedway Of Nations 1st Great Britain 2nd Poland 3rd Denmark... How it all unfurled will be but a side issue...

As i`m not Polish - nor have a VPN then the answer is no- and just so you know i pay for SKY, Eurosport, BT and Fanseat(Sweden).

If this team is possible under the new points limit .In my opinion i can't see them being the power house they were this season without a very high scoring reserve in every meeting.

Hope not.

I read it somewhere else but couldn't remember where, possibly the SGP website? Bizarrely when I googled him that was the first site that came up

Good post, plus Adam Ellis.

Why didn't I think to check the Shropshire Star Thanks for the info (and Badge)

Magic was Tragic all day, end of. Clap, Clap, Clap, Clap, Clap Tragic Janowski

It's not luck...it's Polish incompetence !

Is that a... Rew boy? He's far too good for the CL surely? And he's tied up in Polska, Denmark and (Sweden I think?) as far as I know?

Loved the quote from Bewley. "Once I saw Pole Magic Janowski had fallen, I knew we’d done it but still had to stay on for three laps."I must admit it felt like I'd forgotten how to ride a bike.My arms went weak knowing we were on the verge of gold".i I must admit myself i was worried about an e/f for our riders plus Lambert getting to close to Zmarzlik that he might catch him and get excluded.But luckily there were no such dramas.

Yes Doyle had a truly awful season, only 4th in Ekstraliga averages.

The Mrs already has a nickname for Bangs, Cillit it is

You can't imagine how much he hated us winning Saturday against Leicester

Firstly, I assume you mean Craig Cook but you don't have the gonads to say so. Secondly, GP superstar and many misdemeanours? When has Craig Cook claimed to be a superstar and when has he let down GB when competing for or representing them? As usual, lets make up a story based on prejudice and stupidity! If you were in anyway genuinely interested you would have been able to discover that the GB management, as in previous years, asked riders who wanted to compete in Grand Prix qualifiers, ride abroad, etc, etc, for season 2021. Some riders like Chris Harris said he'd be willing, Craig Cook decided his days of travelling abroad were over as he wanted more time with his family. A squad of riders were selected including U21s to ride for and represent GB. It is only right and fair that the riders named in the GB squad should be selected. Craig is better around Glasgow than Adam Ellis and Chris Harris but it would be unfair to ask squad members to forego their place, this is assuming that Craig would even want to do it, which I doubt.

Dmitri Bergé has left Masarna and joined Lejonen.

And i thought i was watching BT Sport this weekend

Well yesterday’s meeting was fantastic regardless of what anybody says…anybody who knows the Belle Vue track knows the racing is better if it’s slicker…..today’s racing not as good but what an ending !

There is a time and place to say it, then wasn’t it IMHO. we will have to agree to disagree.

I personally heard Ivan expand on this very concept: "you have the white line on the left and the fence on your right and you ride on the bit in the middle" , he was a bit of card was Ivan when he let his hair down. Not every promotion is fortunate to begin with a clean sheet of paper, track building-wise, and good luck to those who are, it's very much a case of making the best out of what you have. IMO for every 'Berwick', big & fast, the needs to be a 'Wolves', tight & techncial, makes speedway more interesting. We can discuss 'best races at ABC & XYZ tracks' to our heart's content (and we do) but even wearing 2 pairs of rose-tinted shades, you can get great & ordinary racing on each and every track.....

Just come on here and was going to post about the great racing. Loads of passing with quite a few lines. Then I read the last 2 pages and wondered if I was watching the same meeting. Thought the racing was fine. TeamGB acting like a bunch of amateurs mind, with the pathetic exclusion. Woffy looks very lightweight although he has speed. No chance of beating Poland unless Zmazlik or Majic goes through the tapes in the final.

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There will never be another Ivan...the greatest rider of all time who raised the profile of the sport.

I thought the GEMS team personally was a good indicator of what can be achieved in the NDL. In my view understrength but it was a team who had decent local connections, home track knowledge and featured riders who had come through 2nd halves and could benefit from more experienced riders being around them. The benchmark of success can vary but the ethos certainly seemed right at Newcastle (and probably would have been even better with a higher points limit to help out) .