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Or simply a promotion that is passing on its experience in growing its fan base to give Worky a fighting chance of becoming the success that it deserves to be. Since the Facenna's took over Glasgow, they have spent 10 years trying to build the fan base in a city that only see's green or blue and have seen what works and what doesn't work, if Worky can benefit from that 10 years experience along side the business experience of Allied then that can only be good for British Speedway.

Saturday night’s a proper speedway night!!!

Maybe if the Workington fans are not happy with this thread they could dissolve it and start a new one and blame everyone but themselves and their promotion for the direction it's gone in and how its ended up.💣 just putting on my body armour and tin hat😁

Good to see Danyons back home keep up the good rehab

Another hot day apparently. 27 degrees and another long hot trip for the Pirates. I hope they have sorted the AirCon out for the trip up😎

I'm normally on the same page as you Mike but think a championship standard league set up of say 12-14 five man teams is the way to go, I love seeing the top boys on tracks where they can truly display their skills but we can't afford them. I have said before when Rob Lambert turns up for one of his brief stints he's a brilliant rider to watch, but is probably on 4-6k per meeting and I reckon he won't add 50-100 on the gate the numbers just don't stack up. Look at Poole the other week 3k turning up to watch premier league second strings and two point men its about getting a team out that's there for the fans for 90% of meetings. The Ford's are shrewd they know moving up is financial suicide and they are a well run club look what's happended to Brum they signed Lindgren last season even with Wolves closed and the crowd numbers were still utterly terrible.

I know most get covered their costs by other outside income than points money... Therefore, surely that should be "boom time" for the clubs shouldn't it? Big names, potentially no costs, so just sit back and watch those stands fill up... Kerching .. The reality of course is something different... NB And if sponsors do cover all the costs, I suppose the question must be.. Why is it around 20 to 25% more expensive to watch Speedway now than it was pre COVID in 2020? Maybe that is a bigger reason for the current crowd levels than the level of riders on show?

My qualm about Cookie when he was announced was his off track problems, they have proved to be correct, I don’t know how anyone can defend it or stick by him. He has let the club, the fans, and his teammates down, again.

I am certainly not Craig Cook fan , but too say he is bang average when he is Top of the Berwick Averages Home and Away is total nonsense.Think most fans had doubts about the signing with his “problems health wise”.His non appearances are disappointing but to criticise his on track riding is someone who just does not like him full-stop.

That’s better than r/r for Hume.

They have already had riding here, or brought in over the past two seasons... Woffy, Emil, Doyle, Bewley, Kurtz, Fricke, Holder, Lindgren, Holder, Janowski, MJJ,, Zagar, Kvech, Lidsey and B Cook... All either Ex World Champs, or GP winners, some being multiple GP winners, some are GP riders, others being well known names, or Polish top tier riders.. And most tracks have seen no increase in crowds, with some actually showing less... Yet their costs have increased by using these riders... How do you afford even more "top level riders?" so your crowds can magically grow?

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the chef has put the sausage on the barbie

Get you cook bingo cards at the ready for this one, will he or won’t he ? I’m going for cant ride cause he has suffered from climate change

I shouldn't let it worry you Gav. Good to see an Ipswich rider in attendance anyway

I don’t think one league would sit well with Chris. When you see how far he has brought the club from being on the verge of of selling to Buster to getting the backing & the right riders in to make it a success. For Emil & Jason who knows what is going on. Perhaps injures have finally caught up with Jason & Emil is having engine issues. Or maybe there is some average reduction going on. If it’s one league with only one rider above 8 permitted next year Emil on a sub 8 could be a master stroke.

I see it a bit closer than StarBoy and SuperStarsFan91's 56-34. Although the Stars will giving it 100%, i think Ippo will be smarting a tad 😃, and they might not give 5 rides to JD and Doyle if they have the aggregate score in the bag. With that in mind, i'll go 52-38. Seeing as i waved goodbye to 40 quid to the bookies betting on Ippo to beat Lynn by -4 on Monday, Id take my prediction with a pinch of salt.😆

Just a reminder to allow extra time to get to Foxhall with the Orwell Bridge works ongoing.

You suggest the Cook signing has been a disaster but when he's actually ridden he's done a good job. It seems like he's been ill a lot but per BSPL stats he's only missed 2 meetings. When he's missing you should have a good choice of guests, given his average and there's only ever one other meeting. Basically any rider except the majority of other clubs number ones. Glasgow or Edinburgh riders the obvious choice if at home on a Friday night.

Superb race that. Belle Vue have featured it on their social media. Kurtz had it wound on around the boards . Cook given it a go on the kerb and Fricke riding as well as he could to stay in front of both Aces - Top stuff.

In fairness... The promoters put demands on them to have the best kit... Which costs several thousands for two bikes minimum... To help them win something they shockingly then devalue by using such a ludicrous operating model.. An incredible business plan.. Personally, I think they should keep the top riders and reduce the "middle order" and the "RS"... As, the top riders must bring a few more in than would ordinarily go... As everyone knows, a struggling business needs to either increase turnover or reduce costs... Now, given increasing turnover seems to be a challenge, then cost reduction has to be the way forwards.. And the easiest and quickest way to do that is by reducing head count.. However, a business with seven employees wouldn't lose its top two people, as that would close the thing down... Instead it would make savings further down the line, and hope the top two would drive enough turnover... For me, five man teams, no make weights, all over 4.5 point average... That would release seven 3rd HLs/SS's immediately to potentially cover either as official "squad riders" or short tern replacements... With a six team top league, not a bad starting point to bring some desperately needed credibility..

You have to realise that 99% of the general public have no interest in speedway, they think it's very boring. I'm afraid that UK speedway is done, it's just a matter of time...

thats why l like to be at the meetings i can look at what i want when i want, 😎

Another reason regarding Admission prices is paying over the odds to meet mediocre riders demands.

I wonder if we will see an appearance from Demi-Blu Harris or some form of acknowledgment to celebrate her impressive achievement this past weekend - Would be a nice touch

The problem is, if someone commenting on the meeting says "this proves Foord is better than Starke" people are going to want to give an opinion in this, which naturally involves who Poole started the season with. If someone replied to a message on this thread on the Poole thread, people wouldn't understand the reply. I agree with what you are saying in principle, but meeting threads can expand into other subjects without that being planned.

People probably can't be bothered to travel when the meeting goes over 2 hours and people have to drive another 1.5 / 2hrs home. I am disappointed that we have a Derby Day semi-final match tomorrow and anywhere you go in the town you wouldn't have a clue. I just don't understand why flyers and posters can't be displayed. They rely on word of mouth or the same people coming back but no new customers, it's ridiculous really. Anyone who lives in Ipswich would know what I mean when I say the advertising of 'Festival of Wheels' is all over the place, why can't speedway even do 25% of that advertising. So lazy.

I like how George says Cookie is sidelined that's a new one 😂

IPSWICH: 1. Jason Doyle 9.07 2. Danny King © 6.65 3. Adam Ellis 5.57 4. Tom Brennan 7.09 5. Emil Sayfutdinov 8.87 6. Dan Thompson 5.09 7. Jason Edwards (G) (RS). Team Manager: Ritchie Hawkins KING’S LYNN: 1. R/R for Niels-Kristian Iversen 6.74 2. Richard Lawson 6.25 3. Chris Harris 6.69 4. Lewis Kerr (G) 6.04 5. Jan Kvěch 6.49 6. Nicolai Klindt © 6.02 7. Luke Harrison (G) (RS). Team Manager: Rob Lyon Predictions for this one? I’m sure Ipswich will be fired up for this one following Monday’s embarrassment. I can only see a very, very comfortable home win with Kvech, Klindt and Lawson putting up some resistance for the Stars. 56-34. Ipswich 1. Doyle - 10 (4) 2. King - 11 (5) 3. Ellis - 7 (4) 4. Brennan - 8 (5) 5. Sayfutdinov - 10 (4) 6. Thompson - 7 (4) 7. Edwards - 3 (4) Total - 56 King’s Lynn 1. R/R 2. Lawson - 8 (6) 3. Harris - 5 (5) 4. Kerr - 2 (3) 5. Kvech - 9 (6) 6. Klindt - 9 (7) 7. Harrison - 1 (3) Total - 34

No can't have that.I'm happy to say it can be iffy sometimes but if you saw Harris v Doyle a few years ago and the Turbo Twins many heat 15 tussles it not always iffy if it was then why do the star riders we've had over the years come to Poole (Rikaardson,Crump etc )

Well much as "track whinging" makes me yawn, you could see riders having issues with uneven track, unpredictability which leads to limited overtakes. But at least it's the same for both teams, and gave a fair result. If I was the Edinburgh promoters I'd be asking for money back from MPT, he's a shadow of his former self, should probably hang up his kevlar imo.

Big team meeting on track after the presentations, with Middlo and Danny Ford and all riders who seemed to be pointing out one or two spots on the track requiring attention. Also Anders (Rider of the Night)said he was seeing a specialist tomorrow to try to reduce the swelling on his arm.

Kerr maybe due a reprieve. Starke maybe not.

Watching the stream whilst on holiday in St Ives, Cornwall. Very impressed with Beth. Lots of confidence and asking the right questions. Well done.

I personally think Cookie should be inducted into the Bandits hall of fame alongside fellow club legends Jye Etheridge and Benny the Bandit.

By my eye Leicester in the PL on a Thursday are not getting as big crowds as they were on Saturday's in the CL.

to which the response is: "You've got to be kidding, I want to keep them as friends"

Agree,while he has given the Promotion a bit of a headache off track ,his performance on track have been Ok.Like I said there will always be a good guest option if he keeps going AWOL.

All Pirates home meetings are streamed by Pirates TV, unless covered by BSN, and have been for 2 seasons.

Thompson for Cook Grahn for Hume on Saturday

The top riders are normally paid for by outside money /sponsorship not gate receipts .

Winds me up too! It's so by the numbers broadcasting... SGP qualifying, show each rider for 30 seconds, cut to man holding red flag when the end of session claxon sounds. During the event find somebody in the crowd who's carrying a specific nations flag and cut to them whenever that nations rider wins a race! How often when you're at a Speedway meeting do you start looking around at the crowd as soon as there's an incident or especially when a rider wins the meeting! BSN & TNT are better at this, probably because there's no crowd 😂 it's just so lazy though.

winds me up too, also when you get a close finish when there has been a bit of pushing and shoving during the race, i want to see how they react to each other after, but they always go to a close up shot of the crowd, mental.

The title of this topic refers to the recent meeting between Workington and Poole. Any general discussion about the whys and wherefores Poole have the team line up they have, should be discussed under the general "Poole" section !

Well done to the Plymouth promotion at least giving it a go. You won't get much better than Nicholas, I think he will be fine after his first ride or so. Some clubs are quite happy clearly to coast through the season with no ambition. Again well done Plymouth I hope your fortunes turn

Could we please set this chat back to its title. Use your own chat group if you want to talk about Poole Riders !

Apparently if you have a a Sports Visa and refuse to compete, but compete elsewhere, you are not violating the conditions of the visa - however, the sponsor can withdraw their support, which then jeopardises the status of the visa. So, if the Visa Sponsor is happy with the situation, the competitor is OK.

RR for Danyon is not a good option Means two rides for reserves who apart from the odd good gate and win are not strong enough

A] all of them B] none of them C] one that someone made up this morning and wrote on the back of a cereal packet