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Warsaw GP Saturday May 13th 2023


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11 minutes ago, Steve Shovlar said:

Bloody boring Lindgren stole it. Rotten luck to Holder who had it stolen. Good news that Zmarzlik failed.

Quite fitting for a boring rider to win a boring meeting.  Surely the end has to come for ignoring proper traditional tracks for rubbish venues like this?

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Glad Holder slammed the door shut though and hopefully a few of the others will not just wave him past like they have done for a while. Bartosz reminds me a lot of Marc Marquez, won a few world championships but will do everything to keep that going 

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 I not a Jack fan but he was robbed tonight, shame.                 
Whilst in the past most were applauding Zmarzliks genius, I always reckoned he was verging on wreckless. For two years he has had an easy passage, put under pressure, like tonight, and the wreckless Zmarzlik might come to the surface and be more noticeable. I just hope none of his opponents get injured.        
If it’s Freddie that is going to take it to Zmarzlik then I am happy with that. Even more so if Freddie come out as winner. He deserves it, always a trier. But he needs some backup.          
Disappointed with Leon Madsen. I know he been carrying a back injury last couple years. If he has had surgery maybe it’s not worked and it’s affecting his performance.

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2 minutes ago, OveFundinFan said:

 I not a Jack fan but he was robbed tonight, shame.                 
Whilst in the past most were applauding Zmarzliks genius, I always reckoned he was verging on wreckless. For two years he has had an easy passage, put under pressure, like tonight, and the wreckless Zmarzlik might come to the surface and be more noticeable. I just hope none of his opponents get injured.        
If it’s Freddie that is going to take it to Zmarzlik then I am happy with that. Even more so if Freddie come out as winner. He deserves it, always a trier. But he needs some backup.          
Disappointed with Leon Madsen. I know he been carrying a back injury last couple years. If he has had surgery maybe it’s not worked and it’s affecting his performance.

We must be watching different rider Bart  is already one of the greatest riders this sport has seen !

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2 minutes ago, FAST GATER said:

Can't agree Bart  is reckless  but spot on about him being genius on a bike

Doyle has been reckless for most of his career IMO

Doyle makes some really bad decisions and can be very reckless but was on the receiving end of a few naughty ones early on.

Zmarzlik has been lucky not to seriously hurt himself or anyone else because 99/100 times he pulls that same move and people move out of the way…knowing they’ll get wiped out otherwise.

he’s not been out under pressure for a while and I have a feeling that won’t be the first flash point his year 

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23 minutes ago, DJC said:

Doyle makes some really bad decisions and can be very reckless but was on the receiving end of a few naughty ones early on.

Zmarzlik has been lucky not to seriously hurt himself or anyone else because 99/100 times he pulls that same move and people move out of the way…knowing they’ll get wiped out otherwise.

he’s not been out under pressure for a while and I have a feeling that won’t be the first flash point his year 

Can't agree about Bart just marvel at his skill and speed always feel Doyle is just a bully ! 

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14 minutes ago, JoeW436 said:

Glad Holder slammed the door shut though and hopefully a few of the others will not just wave him past like they have done for a while

You make a good point here. You know, you can always choose to stay on and race like Zmarzlik did in the re run when Jack slammed the door. You don't always have to go for the swan dive.

Zmarzlik had a tyre width lead and Doyle puts his arm on his leg. Glad the referee actually watched it multiple times as I hate the notion that a rider passing another up the inside is always at fault.

If Doyle actually concedes the corner, that he arrived at second, chances are Zmarzlik drifts up and he cuts back under him and secures 3rd place, but he gambled and lost this time.

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14 minutes ago, DJC said:

Doyle makes some really bad decisions and can be very reckless but was on the receiving end of a few naughty ones early on.

Zmarzlik has been lucky not to seriously hurt himself or anyone else because 99/100 times he pulls that same move and people move out of the way…knowing they’ll get wiped out otherwise.

he’s not been out under pressure for a while and I have a feeling that won’t be the first flash point his year 

Noticeable that he tried it a few times, however, on such a small track he wasnt able to generate the speed he usually does on the bigger circuits for him to line up his "signature move"...

The "bend three dive bomb" where he basically rides his opponents (who lift their leg up out of the way), up the track deep into bend four..

Doyle, Lindgren and Madsen are the three riders who seem to he able to stay strong and prevent him forcing them out...

The rest all take evasive action and surrender position...

Holder tonight showed some steel of his own, so maybe he too will now be less intimidated..

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14 minutes ago, mikebv said:

Noticeable that he tried it a few times, however, on such a small track he wasnt able to generate the speed he usually does on the bigger circuits for him to line up his "signature move"...

The "bend three dive bomb" where he basically rides his opponents (who lift their leg up out of the way), up the track deep into bend four..

Doyle, Lindgren and Madsen are the three riders who seem to he able to stay strong and prevent him forcing them out...

The rest all take evasive action and surrender position...

Holder tonight showed some steel of his own, so maybe he too will now be less intimidated..

This track and next one are not great for Bart but after Prague he should be able kick on then !

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